Top 10 promising talent in the NBA

Avi · 02-19-2018, 12:01 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ng?share=other

Feel free to share your top 10!

tjforce · 02-19-2018, 12:05 PM

Makes sense since Simmons should have been in the All Star game (or was Goran Dragic too exciting to watch?)

3pt · 02-19-2018, 12:06 PM

Otto Porter is only 24?

EMD34 · 02-19-2018, 12:14 PM

3 Nuggets, the future is bright for them. Harris is underrated for sure, I didn't know he was only 23!

yiguiri2002 · 02-19-2018, 12:17 PM

I'll take Lonzo and Ingram out, put Capela and Gordon in.

Also, would probably put Myles Turner ahead of Gary Harris.

JustinVerlander07 · 02-19-2018, 12:29 PM

Ingram at 4 and Lonzo on this list is silly.

Also, Gary Harris is still criminally underrated.

JLR0747 · 02-19-2018, 12:39 PM

no embiid? I know I'm a homer, but weird...

JustinVerlander07 · 02-19-2018, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JLR0747

no embiid? I know I'm a homer, but weird...

"To qualify for this countdown, players can't yet have celebrated their 25th birthdays (sorry, Rudy Gobert) or made even one All-Star appearance. They must truly be on the rise, waiting to break through and achieve that celestial recognition. "

Nobody ever reads the intro to articles it seems....

SHowley2003 · 02-19-2018, 12:41 PM

I like the narratives. I’d personally drop Lonzoo and add Jaylen Brown. Embiid also needs to be in the list, even as an 11th addition with an * due to him being an All-Star this year. Otherwise the list is solid. Am I correct is thinking Porter signed a max contract this past offseason? He’s 24, still a potential star and already making max money? Crazy.

daveyou · 02-19-2018, 12:42 PM

ingram yes, no on lonzo for me. love ingram's growth and game this year

jcardstore · 02-19-2018, 12:50 PM

Idk how people think Lonzo is not promising. It's not like he was top 3 on that list or something.

JustinVerlander07 · 02-19-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Idk how people think Lonzo is not promising. It's not like he was top 3 on that list or something.

I think there are 10 guys better for that list, that's all.

MyckKabongo · 02-19-2018, 12:55 PM

Pretty good list, all things considered.

Feels like they put Lonzo on there for the clicks. I'd take Capela instead.

Myles Turner stock has taken a pounding this year. Just no progression. Good time to buy low?

Jamal Murray--by the end of the season you might have to put him number 3 on this list. Dude is only 20 and since ~December has started to really put it together. I'm surprised his stuff hasn't exploded. Dude has every bit the potential that Booker has, and he has much better young teammates ensuring many future playoff appearances.

Gary Harris--you have to love how much this guy has improved every single year. Excellent shooter, elite athleteticism, great BBIQ, emerging defensive prowess.

I sometimes wonder if Tatum has been massively overhyped due to an insanely hot shooting stretch. Jury is still out a bit on him.

Dario Saric has been on an absolute tear lately. Philly is gonna be a finals contender even if Fultz doesn't pan out.

I was wrong on Ingram. He's gonna be something. Still only 20. Wouldn't put him number 4 but he's on the list for sure.

tjforce · 02-19-2018, 01:16 PM

Clicking on the links and digging into the analytics, I noticed that Simmons is second in the league among all players in Defensive Points Saved (DPS).

I always believe that advanced metrics need to be taken with a grain of salt, but when the some other names in the Top 10 of this metric include Andre Drummond, Al Horford, Draymond Green and Dwight Howard, it tells me it's a good list to be near the top of.

This part of his game is very underrated. With Chris Paul missing a sizable part of the year, Patrick Beverly out all year and Tony Allen not playing much this season, Simmons *should* be a strong candidate for an All-NBA Defense spot.

Among all guards, Simmons ranks 4th in steals, 2nd in rebounds and 1st in blocked shots.

If the advanced metrics say so, and the counting metrics say so, maybe it's the truth.

Or maybe they'll give it to Goran Dragic instead.

wickedliquids · 02-19-2018, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I think there are 10 guys better for that list, that's all.

This.

I think one criteria left out of this was "media sensation." Ball should not have been on this list. I don't believe him to be a bust, but I don't see him being the next Lebron either; more Bradley Beal type imo.

Giantrobot · 02-19-2018, 01:27 PM

Nuggets need to try to keep their core together. Jokic, Murray, Harris are all really good.

I think Jaylen Brown and Zach LaVine are in the mix, too.

Yaz1966 · 02-19-2018, 01:35 PM

Jaylen Brown

jcardstore · 02-19-2018, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedliquids

This.

I think one criteria left out of this was "media sensation." Ball should not have been on this list. I don't believe him to be a bust, but I don't see him being the next Lebron either; more Bradley Beal type imo.

How in the world do you get Bradley Beal out of Lonzo???????

smsportscards · 02-19-2018, 02:38 PM

I could be a homer but replace Lonzo with Dennis Smith.

MarvelMania15 · 02-19-2018, 03:23 PM

Solid list, I love Lauri Markkanens game too. Aaron Gordon in my opinion has got some upside to him too

ballhawkdawk · 02-19-2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smsportscards

I could be a homer but replace Lonzo with Dennis Smith.

I agree with this... and have no rooting interest for either player.

NeilCO · 02-19-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

Pretty good list, all things considered.

Feels like they put Lonzo on there for the clicks. I'd take Capela instead.

Myles Turner stock has taken a pounding this year. Just no progression. Good time to buy low?

Jamal Murray--by the end of the season you might have to put him number 3 on this list. Dude is only 20 and since ~December has started to really put it together. I'm surprised his stuff hasn't exploded. Dude has every bit the potential that Booker has, and he has much better young teammates ensuring many future playoff appearances.

Gary Harris--you have to love how much this guy has improved every single year. Excellent shooter, elite athleteticism, great BBIQ, emerging defensive prowess.

I sometimes wonder if Tatum has been massively overhyped due to an insanely hot shooting stretch. Jury is still out a bit on him.

Dario Saric has been on an absolute tear lately. Philly is gonna be a finals contender even if Fultz doesn't pan out.

I was wrong on Ingram. He's gonna be something. Still only 20. Wouldn't put him number 4 but he's on the list for sure.

I'm a fan of Adam Fromal's analysis/writing in general, and this would be out of character for him. He's a bit contrarian, but I'd say in general his approach is: analytics >>>> hype. Of course, Lonzo hasn't played enough games for his analytics to mean much, so it is possible he made an exception.

NeilCO · 02-19-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SHowley2003

I like the narratives. I’d personally drop Lonzoo and add Jaylen Brown. Embiid also needs to be in the list, even as an 11th addition with an * due to him being an All-Star this year. Otherwise the list is solid. Am I correct is thinking Porter signed a max contract this past offseason? He’s 24, still a potential star and already making max money? Crazy.

What would be the point of that, though? If Embiid gets on the list with an asterisk, why not Giannis? Why not KAT? Etc.

RedHedStepChild · 02-19-2018, 06:28 PM

If Lavine can stay healthy, he is tops on my list for sure. T-Mac potential with his explosiveness to the rack and a straight up offensive assassin.

tylermckinzie · 02-19-2018, 06:52 PM

Ok, maybe I get to be the homer... it if you make this a draft, then Ben Simmons goes #1, and I think every pick after that comes down to Devin Booker and someone else. Maybe you like Jokic better, two different guys, just your preference. And Mitchell is neck and neck in potential. But does someone really take Ingram or Tatum over Booker? I sure wouldn't.

02-19-2018, 12:05 PM	#2
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,496	Makes sense since Simmons should have been in the All Star game (or was Goran Dragic too exciting to watch?) __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

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3pt Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 147 Yeovil2010	Otto Porter is only 24? __________________ http://www.ebay.com/usr/yeovil2010

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EMD34 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 4,936	3 Nuggets, the future is bright for them. Harris is underrated for sure, I didn't know he was only 23! __________________ PC: Amen Thompson, Jalen Williams, Victor Wembanyama

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yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,561 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	I'll take Lonzo and Ingram out, put Capela and Gordon in. Also, would probably put Myles Turner ahead of Gary Harris. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

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JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,411 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	Ingram at 4 and Lonzo on this list is silly. Also, Gary Harris is still criminally underrated. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

02-19-2018, 12:01 PM	#1
Avi Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 901	Top 10 promising talent in the NBA http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ng?share=other Feel free to share your top 10!

02-19-2018, 12:39 PM	#7
JLR0747 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 4,149 JLR0747	no embiid? I know I'm a homer, but weird...

02-19-2018, 12:41 PM	#9
SHowley2003 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 6,788 SHowley2003 SHowley2003	I like the narratives. I’d personally drop Lonzoo and add Jaylen Brown. Embiid also needs to be in the list, even as an 11th addition with an * due to him being an All-Star this year. Otherwise the list is solid. Am I correct is thinking Porter signed a max contract this past offseason? He’s 24, still a potential star and already making max money? Crazy. __________________ "My name is Shaquille O'Neal and Paul Pierce is the MFing Truth."

02-19-2018, 12:42 PM	#10
daveyou Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,305	ingram yes, no on lonzo for me. love ingram's growth and game this year

02-19-2018, 12:50 PM	#11
jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 22,035 Jcardstore	Idk how people think Lonzo is not promising. It's not like he was top 3 on that list or something. __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

02-19-2018, 12:55 PM	#13
MyckKabongo Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,777 MyckKabongo	Pretty good list, all things considered. Feels like they put Lonzo on there for the clicks. I'd take Capela instead. Myles Turner stock has taken a pounding this year. Just no progression. Good time to buy low? Jamal Murray--by the end of the season you might have to put him number 3 on this list. Dude is only 20 and since ~December has started to really put it together. I'm surprised his stuff hasn't exploded. Dude has every bit the potential that Booker has, and he has much better young teammates ensuring many future playoff appearances. Gary Harris--you have to love how much this guy has improved every single year. Excellent shooter, elite athleteticism, great BBIQ, emerging defensive prowess. I sometimes wonder if Tatum has been massively overhyped due to an insanely hot shooting stretch. Jury is still out a bit on him. Dario Saric has been on an absolute tear lately. Philly is gonna be a finals contender even if Fultz doesn't pan out. I was wrong on Ingram. He's gonna be something. Still only 20. Wouldn't put him number 4 but he's on the list for sure.

02-19-2018, 01:16 PM	#14
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,496	Clicking on the links and digging into the analytics, I noticed that Simmons is second in the league among all players in Defensive Points Saved (DPS). I always believe that advanced metrics need to be taken with a grain of salt, but when the some other names in the Top 10 of this metric include Andre Drummond, Al Horford, Draymond Green and Dwight Howard, it tells me it's a good list to be near the top of. This part of his game is very underrated. With Chris Paul missing a sizable part of the year, Patrick Beverly out all year and Tony Allen not playing much this season, Simmons should be a strong candidate for an All-NBA Defense spot. Among all guards, Simmons ranks 4th in steals, 2nd in rebounds and 1st in blocked shots. If the advanced metrics say so, and the counting metrics say so, maybe it's the truth. Or maybe they'll give it to Goran Dragic instead. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

02-19-2018, 01:27 PM	#16
Giantrobot Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,843	Nuggets need to try to keep their core together. Jokic, Murray, Harris are all really good. I think Jaylen Brown and Zach LaVine are in the mix, too.

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Yaz1966 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Zealand (US postal address) Posts: 984	Jaylen Brown

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smsportscards Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 489 sms-sportscards smsportscards	I could be a homer but replace Lonzo with Dennis Smith. __________________ GO NOLES!! GO HORNS!! GO MAVS!! GO RANGERS!!

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MarvelMania15 Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 148	Solid list, I love Lauri Markkanens game too. Aaron Gordon in my opinion has got some upside to him too

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RedHedStepChild Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Derrrty Jerzee... Posts: 87 maniacjackattack	If Lavine can stay healthy, he is tops on my list for sure. T-Mac potential with his explosiveness to the rack and a straight up offensive assassin.

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tylermckinzie Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,334	Ok, maybe I get to be the homer... it if you make this a draft, then Ben Simmons goes #1, and I think every pick after that comes down to Devin Booker and someone else. Maybe you like Jokic better, two different guys, just your preference. And Mitchell is neck and neck in potential. But does someone really take Ingram or Tatum over Booker? I sure wouldn't. __________________ Over 1200 feedback on sportscardforum under same name + 300 on ebay. Lots of references on here from previous deals. Not new to online trading, don't worry!