WOW...I know Immaculate can be a bloodbath but...

Chris P · 09-14-2016, 12:45 PM

Saw a single box break of this on Cards Infinity's You Tube Break. This is a $700 a box product!? Contents were

Ish Smith Base
Thaddeus Young Acetate Jersey (#14/75)
Marcus Morris Dual Jersey (#5/25)
Bernard King Sticker Auto (#26/99)
John Wall Auto (#10/60)
Jalen Rose Auto Redemption

I know it's beating a deadhorse but wow....that's insane. I thought my Preferred Box Breaks were bad!

6celtics33 · 09-14-2016, 12:50 PM

Vote with your checking account

smalltown · 09-14-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

I know it's beating a deadhorse but wow

It's not though. I've been watching breaks all day. It's downright horrible. Nice cards in the mix. But Wow is right. Stuff has been hard to watch.

jbarnett83 · 09-14-2016, 12:53 PM

This is what happens when a sticker company has zero competition

I don't know why people continue to buy their garbage?...stick to singles and you will be better off

benz35 · 09-14-2016, 12:59 PM

yeah horrendous product..not even a kat shadowbox auto will save your 700 box

daviswr7 · 09-14-2016, 01:00 PM

Yea Chris's 2 cases I watched were tough. I kept waiting for some Monsters to get pulled that just did not come....

exoticprince · 09-14-2016, 01:03 PM

First time in years I have avoided immaculate completely. Looks like I made a good choice based on what I'm hearing from everyone. I officially have have not spent a cent on panini in over a year

KidKards101 · 09-14-2016, 01:09 PM

Well, after watching a few breaks and comments like this, I think I may cancel my pre-order for a case which I had a down payment in.. Better to lose $145 than in excess of $2000+. What you guys think. Smart move?

dasiegel · 09-14-2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

It's not though. I've been watching breaks all day. It's downright horrible. Nice cards in the mix. But Wow is right. Stuff has been hard to watch.

Saw some of the stuff on Layton... save for a booker premium RPA I didn't see anything I'd be excited about. sucks because I'm looking forward to my boxes tonight and getting less excited each break.

RandysHobby · 09-14-2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KidKards101

Well, after watching a few breaks and comments like this, I think I may cancel my pre-order for a case which I had a down payment in.. Better to lose $145 than in excess of $2000+. What you guys think. Smart move?

Probly a good idea!

the27guy · 09-14-2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dasiegel

Saw some of the stuff on Layton... save for a booker premium RPA I didn't see anything I'd be excited about. sucks because I'm looking forward to my boxes tonight and getting less excited each break.

You're looking for a monster... remember that.

kobemagee29 · 09-14-2016, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris P

Saw a single box break of this on Cards Infinity's You Tube Break. This is a $700 a box product!? Contents were

Ish Smith Base
Thaddeus Young Acetate Jersey (#14/75)
Marcus Morris Dual Jersey (#5/25)
Bernard King Sticker Auto (#26/99)
John Wall Auto (#10/60)
Jalen Rose Auto Redemption

I know it's beating a deadhorse but wow....that's insane. I thought my Preferred Box Breaks were bad!

Again, this is not a $700 a box product. Just because online breakers are bending people over on the price doesn't mean everyone is charging that price. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe retail was around $400 and cost was around $335. I'm not a huge fan of panini's either but you can't put the price online breakers are charging on Panini

KidKards101 · 09-14-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RandysHobby

Probly a good idea!

It seems that with so many players and cards on the checklist, it would be less in anyone's favor to hit a monster.. I really had high hopes for this product after positive reviews in previous years and would have been my first Immaculate case. Urgh, if only the price was around $1500 a case than yeah I'd go for it.

KidKards101 · 09-14-2016, 01:14 PM

My favorites so far are NT and Noir from this year.. Let's see how Flawless fairs up price point to value of cards in a case.

benz35 · 09-14-2016, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KidKards101

Well, after watching a few breaks and comments like this, I think I may cancel my pre-order for a case which I had a down payment in.. Better to lose $145 than in excess of $2000+. What you guys think. Smart move?

get your case, pay for your pre-order then sell it in a couple of weeks time for a profit

KidKards101 · 09-14-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by benz35

get your case, pay for your pre-order then sell it in a couple of weeks time for a profit

I have a feeling that cases will sell for much less in a few months after all the dust settles and hype to a minimum

Chris P · 09-14-2016, 01:18 PM

Even at $400 it's awful...marcus morris dual jerseys...bernard king sticker autos..

Chris P · 09-14-2016, 01:20 PM

And dont get me wrong i know the whole "not every box is a winner" but man...

benz35 · 09-14-2016, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KidKards101

I have a feeling that cases will sell for much less in a few months after all the dust settles and hype to a minimum

think the price will hold ? this is not 13-14 class

but who knows.

daviswr7 · 09-14-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by benz35

think the price will hold ? this is not 13-14 class

but who knows.

It will hold. maybe a very slight dip, but too many gamblers out there for this not to hold at current prices.

Orangejello727 · 09-14-2016, 01:28 PM

If you cant take the risk for feast/fammine, I suggest you stay away from breaking wax. If you are looking for decent value return on your busting, stick to low end like prizm. Leave immactulate and flawless to the big boys who have the balls to gamble.

Thanks for reassuring me that this hobby is not about collecting. Its totally about the return margins of busting a box and seeing how much money you can make back.

benz35 · 09-14-2016, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris P

Saw a single box break of this on Cards Infinity's You Tube Break. This is a $700 a box product!? Contents were

Ish Smith Base
Thaddeus Young Acetate Jersey (#14/75)
Marcus Morris Dual Jersey (#5/25)
Bernard King Sticker Auto (#26/99)
John Wall Auto (#10/60)
Jalen Rose Auto Redemption

I know it's beating a deadhorse but wow....that's insane. I thought my Preferred Box Breaks were bad!

I saw the video..that could be the dud box in the case, well see the rest of the case once it gets broken, could be a monster in it....

jprk31 · 09-14-2016, 01:29 PM

Last year's Immaculate was a bloodbath also for a lower price compared this year. I saw that break also together with the other GB and it was brutal. This type of products are geared towards the Group breakers. For those who have deep pockets and can afford to lose money on their breaks, you guys can buy it. For PC collectors, it's better to just buy singles.

hairyharold · 09-14-2016, 01:31 PM

wow 3,449.95?? what was the pre-sale price?

i paid 2,219.99 preorder in 2012/13. over 1k rise in price!?

chris_ac · 09-14-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangejello727

If you cant take the risk for feast/fammine, I suggest you stay away from breaking wax. If you are looking for decent value return on your busting, stick to low end like prizm. Leave immactulate and flawless to the big boys who have the balls to gamble.

Thanks for reassuring me that this hobby is not about collecting. Its totally about the return margins of busting a box and seeing how much money you can make back.

You mean rich/wealthy people? 80% of the country can't afford this type of fun and/or gambling. My father always says more money than brains. To each their own of course, but your statement reeks of I'm better than others because I have money to spend, hence your big balls for gambling.

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jprk31 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,878 jprk31 jprk31	Last year's Immaculate was a bloodbath also for a lower price compared this year. I saw that break also together with the other GB and it was brutal. This type of products are geared towards the Group breakers. For those who have deep pockets and can afford to lose money on their breaks, you guys can buy it. For PC collectors, it's better to just buy singles. __________________ Looking for Paul Pierce and Boston Celtics. Photobucket: http://s115.photobucket.com/user/jprk31/library/?sort=3&page=1 Last edited by jprk31; 09-14-2016 at 01:38 PM.

09-14-2016, 12:45 PM	#1
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,744	WOW...I know Immaculate can be a bloodbath but... Saw a single box break of this on Cards Infinity's You Tube Break. This is a $700 a box product!? Contents were Ish Smith Base Thaddeus Young Acetate Jersey (#14/75) Marcus Morris Dual Jersey (#5/25) Bernard King Sticker Auto (#26/99) John Wall Auto (#10/60) Jalen Rose Auto Redemption I know it's beating a deadhorse but wow....that's insane. I thought my Preferred Box Breaks were bad!

09-14-2016, 12:50 PM	#2
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,274	Vote with your checking account

09-14-2016, 12:59 PM	#5
benz35 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,854	yeah horrendous product..not even a kat shadowbox auto will save your 700 box

09-14-2016, 01:00 PM	#6
daviswr7 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dagobah Posts: 7,470	Yea Chris's 2 cases I watched were tough. I kept waiting for some Monsters to get pulled that just did not come....

09-14-2016, 01:03 PM	#7
exoticprince Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,309	First time in years I have avoided immaculate completely. Looks like I made a good choice based on what I'm hearing from everyone. I officially have have not spent a cent on panini in over a year

09-14-2016, 01:09 PM	#8
KidKards101 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,684	Well, after watching a few breaks and comments like this, I think I may cancel my pre-order for a case which I had a down payment in.. Better to lose $145 than in excess of $2000+. What you guys think. Smart move?

09-14-2016, 01:14 PM	#14
KidKards101 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,684	My favorites so far are NT and Noir from this year.. Let's see how Flawless fairs up price point to value of cards in a case.

09-14-2016, 01:18 PM	#17
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,744	Even at $400 it's awful...marcus morris dual jerseys...bernard king sticker autos..

09-14-2016, 01:20 PM	#18
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,744	And dont get me wrong i know the whole "not every box is a winner" but man...

09-14-2016, 01:28 PM	#21
Orangejello727 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 19,085	If you cant take the risk for feast/fammine, I suggest you stay away from breaking wax. If you are looking for decent value return on your busting, stick to low end like prizm. Leave immactulate and flawless to the big boys who have the balls to gamble. Thanks for reassuring me that this hobby is not about collecting. Its totally about the return margins of busting a box and seeing how much money you can make back.

09-14-2016, 01:31 PM	#24
hairyharold Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,859	wow 3,449.95?? what was the pre-sale price? i paid 2,219.99 preorder in 2012/13. over 1k rise in price!?