Ronald Acuña

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

There will be short term fluctuations, especially on base cards with large print runs, but you won't see that same activity with the low numbered cards. That's why some here say sell your base cards and reinvest into low # parallels or low print cards...if you can find them.

Show me an example of where low # parallels do not drop in concert with the main base. People say this all this time as if the rarity and supply of the rarer card is not already baked into it's price. Show the evidence versus just saying the most simplistic of theories that you believe outsmarts a mature market

[senorlaverga]

I wonder if PSA 10 prices are declining more quickly because of increased supply

[Qwkser]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

What happened to the market?

How much are base 250 PSA 10s going for now?

Depends on what the winners are actually bidding, cause if max bid is $1000 and everyone else is trying to get it cheap whoever's bid $1000 is not neccesarily going g to end up paying that

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by senorlaverga

I wonder if PSA 10 prices are declining more quickly because of increased supply

It's just a bubble popping. For the 14 day period from September 2nd-15th there were 13 PSA 10s that sold. From September 16th-30th only 10 were sold

Originally Posted by Qwkser

Depends on what the winners are actually bidding, cause if max bid is $1000 and everyone else is trying to get it cheap whoever's bid $1000 is not neccesarily going g to end up paying that

No it doesn't. If one person is willing to pay $10,000 but no other person is willing to go over $800, the market value is $800.

[Qwkser]

Originally Posted by BBases31

It's just a bubble popping. For the 14 day period from September 2nd-15th there were 13 PSA 10s that sold. From September 16th-30th only 10 were sold



No it doesn't. If one person is willing to pay $10,000 but no other person is willing to go over $800, the market value is $800.

That's what I meant....someone probably came in with a super high bid,while the others weren't trying to go higher than what they set out to pay...

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by bedf78

Enter the item # at the end of this url to see the selling price: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...mVersion&item=

Can you post a link? I didn't see it with a quick search.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F372782300361


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[acunamatata1]

Why are some Bat Down Acunas labeled Ronald Acuna Bat Down 2018 Topps #698 in their PSA holder and others are just labeled Ronald Acuna 2018 Topps #698?

[JoeAdam]

Originally Posted by acunamatata1

Why are some Bat Down Acunas labeled Ronald Acuna Bat Down 2018 Topps #698 in their PSA holder and others are just labeled Ronald Acuna 2018 Topps #698?

PSA messed up.

[SGC300ier]

Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F372782300361


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Says unsold on my account...

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[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by SGC300ier

Says unsold on my account...

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Thank you.


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[pewe]

Originally Posted by JoeAdam

PSA messed up.

In their defense, I think those non “bats down” labels were made before the later releases (like factory set)... so you are seeing psa holders from when psa didn’t realize there could be confusion


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[FT35]

Originally Posted by senorlaverga

I wonder if PSA 10 prices are declining more quickly because of increased supply

I think it's because the market strongly depends on him playing baseball. Hitting HR's, stealing bases, scoring runs, huge defensive plays, helping the Braves win...when his skills are on showcase, people want to buy. He slumped in September and sat out the last week after a huge push to 40/40...that time corresponded with many US250s that are returning from PSA.

Just remember...the reason why the price is high in the first place is because many people either want one that bad, or believe that the price will rise--depending on your collection focus. Either way, people justify inflated prices because the consensus is that the card has a lot of room to grow over the course of his career. Prices won't matter day-to-day, week-to-week, or even month-to-month. There will be too much fluctuation to speculate the cause...but do know that the majority of people buying Acuna believe in him as a long-term upper-echelon superstar face in MLB. Those players tend to be good "buy candidates."

One concept that I'd like to reiterate--kind of goes along with "buy the card not the grade." "I'd say buy the PLAYER, not the card." When a player is a stud like Trout, Jordan, Brady...all their stuff is worth buying. If/when Acuna starts breaking into that top group of players--whether it be through his play or his popularity (I think he's knocking on the MLB door now), then all his stuff is going to rise. It's kind of like a video going viral...once it hits the critical mass, the surge takes the market over the top.

[Zauron]

I think there are a lot of factors teaming up for his prices to being going down.

1. He played really bad in September

2. He got hurt

3. The market got oversatured with some of his cards as more people started listing his cards, particularly PSA 10 Updates. There's probably 100 PSA 10's listed on eBay right now, I did a search and 188 auctions popped up, but some of those are his RD and inserts

Now if he kills it in the playoffs, prices will likely get back going up. But for now, I don't see a price increase again until the spring when more talks about him being a MVP contender for the 2020 season

[Rjackd11]

The white jersey batting SSP did not sell for $2499. The owner decided to grade it and pulled it down and will re-list once they get it back.


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[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by Rjackd11

The white jersey batting SSP did not sell for $2499. The owner decided to grade it and pulled it down and will re-list once they get it back.


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Thanks!

[jjeanius]

Originally Posted by FT35

One concept that I'd like to reiterate--kind of goes along with "buy the card not the grade." "I'd say buy the PLAYER, not the card." When a player is a stud like Trout, Jordan, Brady...all their stuff is worth buying. If/when Acuna starts breaking into that top group of players--whether it be through his play or his popularity (I think he's knocking on the MLB door now), then all his stuff is going to rise. It's kind of like a video going viral...once it hits the critical mass, the surge takes the market over the top.

I totally disagree with this. Just like there are good players and bad players, there are also good cards and bad cards for each player. Especially with Acuna where there are literally hundreds of different RCs to choose from. Yes, everyone that bought into Trout a few years ago has done well. Those that bought into Update are certainly a lot happier than those that bought into BCD (for example).

[HarryLime]

As a salty veteran (notice I said salty, not knowledgeable), I'm licking my chops for the offseason. Everything goes down in the offseason.

FOMO (and all the other OMOs) grab hold of people and they can't resist. They rationalize stuff that they would never do during the baseball season. "I'll sell this Acuna now to get [insert hot football/basketball/hockey card here] but I'll be able to pick it back up before baseball season starts."

Everything baseball is going to take a dip starting now. It will get even better when the World Series is over. December and January? Oh, mama. If you're pretty much only into baseball and you're disciplined this is the time to buy your ticket on the Hobby Train Express to Chubbytown.

Arthur

[TheWrightStuff]

This is a buying opportunity that I really didn't think we would have again. I cant wait for the Spring training jump. Im buying cards now to resell then.

[LVDan]

Sept- Dec is my new offseason.
Spring hype starts earlier every year it seems.
Anyone not going to the playoffs or competing for post season awards seems to start bottoming out NOW.
The Ronnies and Juans of the world could still obviously see big playoff gains with performance.

[tconte]

I've set some cash aside in hopes of buying Acuna cards if they drop.
If the bat down would go down to the $350 range, I'd buy a bunch.
Right now, my buy number for a couple is anything under $450 but I bet
that doesn't happen. We'll see!

[acunamatata1]

Originally Posted by pewe

In their defense, I think those non “bats down” labels were made before the later releases (like factory set)... so you are seeing psa holders from when psa didn’t realize there could be confusion


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Do the bat downs that aren’t labeled as such sell for less?

[FT35]

Originally Posted by jjeanius

I totally disagree with this. Just like there are good players and bad players, there are also good cards and bad cards for each player. Especially with Acuna where there are literally hundreds of different RCs to choose from. Yes, everyone that bought into Trout a few years ago has done well. Those that bought into Update are certainly a lot happier than those that bought into BCD (for example).

Totally respectable! The key in your example is the point I'm making...those who bought into TROUT have done well regardless of the card they went in on. The people who went the BCD route are much better off that those who went ANY route with a different player. Obviously there are better cards than others where the margin is greater, but if you're looking to "invest" so to speak, you can pick a tier that you're comfortable with and jump in on a player at that level. So if you're looking to go all in, go Topps Black, Heritage Black Chrome, Sapphire etc...high end. But if you're looking to take a safer route, then buy flagship player lots of that player. They key is the player.

I'm not saying that the Acuna RD will provide the same return as his Topps Black...however...if ACUNA does well, than all his cards will rise in "value." You'll be more likely to see a return on most levels of Acuna cards, than a premium card of say a player like Tyler Wade. For example...from an investment standpoint, if I had $50 to spend, I'd rather have 50 Acuna RD cards than 1 Topps Black Wade RC. Superstar cards remain relevant--even the low end, while non-superstar cards tend to fade from relevance--even the high end. Not saying everyone needs to think this way, but I've always kind of gone by that rule--buy the player--and it tends to work out more times than not.

[bedf78]

Originally Posted by acunamatata1

Do the bat downs that aren’t labeled as such sell for less?

No (that is one thing I tracked when researching my purchase). If anything they are higher, but I think that is due to randomness, not actually being more in demand.

[chris_ac]

I’m all for a price drop. But seeing is believing imho.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by tconte

I've set some cash aside in hopes of buying Acuna cards if they drop.
If the bat down would go down to the $350 range, I'd buy a bunch.
Right now, my buy number for a couple is anything under $450 but I bet
that doesn't happen. We'll see!

A salty veteran move!

Arthur