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[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

James gets a two match ban so can play in the final if England makes it. What a joke.

Totally the right move.. If England makes the finals, I want to see two teams with their best players out there..

Look, it was a bad move on her part, but Alozie wasn't hurt, it wasn't a violent strike.

2 match ban is right in this case.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

Totally the right move.. If England makes the finals, I want to see two teams with their best players out there..

Look, it was a bad move on her part, but Alozie wasn't hurt, it wasn't a violent strike.

2 match ban is right in this case.

Disagree. It was violent conduct and should have been a 3 match ban so she is out of the tournament. People wanting to see the "best players" shouldn't come into play. She stomped on her back, the fact she wasn't hurt is irrelevant.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Disagree. It was violent conduct and should have been a 3 match ban so she is out of the tournament. People wanting to see the "best players" shouldn't come into play. She stomped on her back, the fact she wasn't hurt is irrelevant.

She stepped on her back as Alozie was on the ground.. She didn't hurt her, kick her.. 2 match ban is right.

She didn't stomp on her back..

[DonrussDean]

https://twitter.com/alozieee/status/...660649472?s=20

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

She stepped on her back as Alozie was on the ground.. She didn't hurt her, kick her.. 2 match ban is right.

She didn't stomp on her back..

You are delusional. She didn't just step on her she deliberately stomped on her back with studs. That is violent conduct and a no-brainer out of the tournament.

I'm not going to argue about this anymore but that is a ridiculous take on this.

And it doesn't matter if the player forgives her or not which it's good she did but still does not change the fact that this needs to be dealt with harshly.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

You are delusional. She didn't just step on her she deliberately stomped on her back with studs. That is violent conduct and a no-brainer out of the tournament.

I'm not going to argue about this anymore but that is a ridiculous take on this.

And it doesn't matter if the player forgives her or not which it's good she did but still does not change the fact that this needs to be dealt with harshly.

Every pundit and Alozie are ok with this, but you aren't.. Sounds your issue isn't with the suspension. but with the English team.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

You are delusional. She didn't just step on her she deliberately stomped on her back with studs. That is violent conduct and a no-brainer out of the tournament.

I'm not going to argue about this anymore but that is a ridiculous take on this.

And it doesn't matter if the player forgives her or not which it's good she did but still does not change the fact that this needs to be dealt with harshly.

BTW, You don't know the rules, so you should probably read up a bit before you come in a pump your chest..
https://talksport.com/football/15247...tions-england/

What are the rules on red cards?

If a player is shown a straight red card, they will be banned for their country’s next game of the tournament.


The suspension is totally fair and right.

[Ianhatcher]

ROFL he goes the you don't know the rules route...

What's next you going to excuse me of just starting to watch the sport cause clearly you have.

Violent Conduct can result in an extended match ban and typically in cases like this a 3 match ban is warranted but because it was her and likely England she only gets two which is as laughable as your response.

You are utterly clueless on this matter. And of course the pundits agree, they want England to be at full strength should they make the final.

Don't presume to think my opinions are based on hatred of a team. You don't know me. I have many friends in England and most of my relatives from the 1700-1800s all hail from the region but that doesn't mean this isn't the wrong punishment.

She got off easy. Period.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

ROFL he goes the you don't know the rules route...



What's next you going to excuse me of just starting to watch the sport cause clearly you have.



Violent Conduct can result in an extended match ban and typically in cases like this a 3 match ban is warranted but because it was her and likely England she only gets two which is as laughable as your response.



You are utterly clueless on this matter. And of course the pundits agree, they want England to be at full strength should they make the final.



Don't presume to think my opinions are based on hatred of a team. You don't know me. I have many friends in England and most of my relatives from the 1700-1800s all hail from the region but that doesn't mean this isn't the wrong punishment.



She got off easy. Period.

And against, you don't know how the rules work.. There is no et rule for violent conduct in the World Cup. A red Card is a one match ban, with a review on the conduct of the player. They determined this wasn't as bad as you think it was.. Alozie wasn't hurt and was even smiling when it happened.



So go cry more. crybaby

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

And against, you don't know how the rules work.. There is no et rule for violent conduct in the World Cup. A red Card is a one match ban, with a review on the conduct of the player. They determined this wasn't as bad as you think it was.. Alozie wasn't hurt and was even smiling when it happened.



So go cry more. crybaby

Add reading comprehension to your list of deficiencies. Where did I say that was a rule? It's pretty standard that violent conduct like that ends in a 3 match ban and anyone who watched the game for more than the past few years would understand that. In the Premier League for example it most certainly is a rule.

Premier League Red Card Bans

-One match ban for an offence like holding their opponent back when they are in on goal
-Two match ban for dissent
-Three match ban for violent conduct and dangerous tackles
-Four match ban for extreme violent conduct and extremely dangerous tackles
-Six match ban for spitting
-One extra game can be added to the ban if a player refuses to leave the field within a reasonable time period after being sent off
-Longer bans will be handed down to players that are found to have been racist or taking drugs

She got two games because they don't want her to miss the final if England makes it and it's painfully obvious that effected the decision and should not have. You have an clear bias here because you want England to have their best players for your entertainment. I do not have a bias, I'm sinply looking at past similar suspensions.

Keep up the name calling though. Shows your juvenile behavior even more and your complete lack of understanding on the entire situation.

Next time I'd suggest google the rules so you understand a little bit about the situation before going all in like that.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

It was a coward move either way. If that had been Alex Morgan or Megan Rapinoe lying on the pitch, she would've never done that.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

BTW, She also just recently got engaged, so congrats to her on that.

Ahhh ... I see. So she is trying to impress her hubby!

And speaking of ACFC players, the recent signing of Camberos was a good move. She had to leave her Mexican club because of some crazy stalker - pretty messed up situation. Anyhow, I think she will connect well with Thompson. She scored a nice one against San Diego recently.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

Ahhh ... I see. So she is trying to impress her hubby!

And speaking of ACFC players, the recent signing of Camberos was a good move. She had to leave her Mexican club because of some crazy stalker - pretty messed up situation. Anyhow, I think she will connect well with Thompson. She scored a nice one against San Diego recently.

Oh you are the one who called a female professional athlete fat, who plays in a top league of her profession, and plays 70-75+ minutes a match.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Add reading comprehension to your list of deficiencies. Where did I say that was a rule? It's pretty standard that violent conduct like that ends in a 3 match ban and anyone who watched the game for more than the past few years would understand that. In the Premier League for example it most certainly is a rule.

Premier League Red Card Bans

-One match ban for an offence like holding their opponent back when they are in on goal
-Two match ban for dissent
-Three match ban for violent conduct and dangerous tackles
-Four match ban for extreme violent conduct and extremely dangerous tackles
-Six match ban for spitting
-One extra game can be added to the ban if a player refuses to leave the field within a reasonable time period after being sent off
-Longer bans will be handed down to players that are found to have been racist or taking drugs

She got two games because they don't want her to miss the final if England makes it and it's painfully obvious that effected the decision and should not have. You have an clear bias here because you want England to have their best players for your entertainment. I do not have a bias, I'm sinply looking at past similar suspensions.

Keep up the name calling though. Shows your juvenile behavior even more and your complete lack of understanding on the entire situation.

Next time I'd suggest google the rules so you understand a little bit about the situation before going all in like that.

No she got two games, cause the incident was as violent as you claim it was.. She got a game for the red card and a game for the conduct.

But keep crying.

[YayNJ]

This thread is really weird sometimes

It should have been a three match ban. It's violent conduct. It doesn't matter if she kicked her in the face or stood on her back. She deliberately put her studs into the skin of another player.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

And I'm just lovin' Barcenas, man! She is like Alyssa Thompson on roids. And the crazy part? She is only fifteen!



San Diego did the right thing by locking up Shaw, but now they gotta' do the same thing with this kid. Both her and Shaw are the future of this club!

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

No she got two games, cause the incident was as violent as you claim it was.. She got a game for the red card and a game for the conduct.

But keep crying.

It's not crying. You clearly do not understand this game at all. Maybe you need to venture outside the Women's thread.....

Deliberately putting your studs on another player with intent to injure like that is a 3 match ban like 99.9999% of the time.

It was a moment of frustration, sure and she didn't injure her but it doesn't change the fact that is violent conduct anyway you want to slice it.

It's unreal you are defending this and then calling me a crybaby

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

And I'm just lovin' Barcenas, man! She is like Alyssa Thompson on roids. And the crazy part? She is only fifteen!

This thread is really weird sometimes

Cards with women doing the splits 'the best looking card ever released' 15 year old girls, and dating updates on players.

What the actual #@#@#@#@ fellas.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

It's not crying. You clearly do not understand this game at all. Maybe you need to venture outside the Women's thread.....

Deliberately putting your studs on another player with intent to injure like that is a 3 match ban like 99.9999% of the time.

It was a moment of frustration, sure and she didn't injure her but it doesn't change the fact that is violent conduct anyway you want to slice it.

It's unreal you are defending this and then calling me a crybaby

You are noted as one of the biggest whiners on the forum, but go ahead.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

You are noted as one of the biggest whiners on the forum, but go ahead.

Insults are the tool of the loser when they have lost the argument.

Even if that was so which it isn't it still doesn't make me wrong and I lost count of how many times you whined about Hatch not being at the world cup.

Just trying to help you out with some fundamental knowledge and this is the thanks I get...

Carry on.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

This thread is really weird sometimes

Cards with women doing the splits 'the best looking card ever released' 15 year old girls, and dating updates on players.

What the actual #@#@#@#@ fellas.

This is the card I remember posting. As you all can see, she is not doing the "splits." She is in the process of doing a scissor kick. You sexualized the image because the player is a woman. If it had been a man, then you probably wouldn't have done it ... or maybe you would have ...

It's still summer and you should get out while you can instead of sitting on BO all day and rotting your brains.

[phooey]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Deliberately putting your studs on another player with intent to injure like that is a 3 match ban like 99.9999% of the time.

It was a moment of frustration, sure and she didn't injure her but it doesn't change the fact that is violent conduct anyway you want to slice it.

I can't find any FIFA sources but the media are reporting it was deemed as "serious foul play" rather than "violent conduct" by the disciplinary committee, hence a 2 game ban rather than 3.

Sure she put her foot on the players back, but it didn't look like there was any force to it and the other player wasn't in any pain which backs up the decision.

There is no reason for FIFA to show any bias towards an England player or the England team, I'd expect the opposite if anything.

[DonrussDean]

Originally Posted by phooey

I can't find any FIFA sources but the media are reporting it was deemed as "serious foul play" rather than "violent conduct" by the disciplinary committee, hence a 2 game ban rather than 3.

Sure she put her foot on the players back, but it didn't look like there was any force to it and the other player wasn't in any pain which backs up the decision.

There is no reason for FIFA to show any bias towards an England player or the England team, I'd expect the opposite if anything. Even if it was just a 1 game game I'd be surprised if she started the semi or the final after doing that.

It wasn't a serious foul play, he doesn't understand what a serious foul play is.

She was given a red which was correct, she was suspended for 2 matches which was correct. If she would have pushed down on her or kicked her, she would have had a more serious ban.

He can't comprehend that.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by phooey

I can't find any FIFA sources but the media are reporting it was deemed as "serious foul play" rather than "violent conduct" by the disciplinary committee, hence a 2 game ban rather than 3.

Sure she put her foot on the players back, but it didn't look like there was any force to it and the other player wasn't in any pain which backs up the decision.

There is no reason for FIFA to show any bias towards an England player or the England team, I'd expect the opposite if anything.

Some of the media is wrong and they are just trying to justify it so she can possibly play in the final.

It can't be a serious foul play because it was not a play, it was after the play and the ball was not being challenged by her at that time.

FIFA is playing it safe as they have an out and can say well at least she can play in the final.

The other guy claiming the 2 match ban is correct is 100% wrong.

This is clear violent conduct as she 1) makes a fist and puts both hands in her back and keeps her on the ground and then 2) deliberately puts studs to her back.

Deliberately putting studs on a player to injure them is 100% every time Violent Conduct.

I can't even believe this is an argument and it baffles me anyone would be stupid enough to argue against that but I guess I like to think the best in the human race...

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by DonrussDean

It wasn't a serious foul play, he doesn't understand what a serious foul play is.

She was given a red which was correct, she was suspended for 2 matches which was correct. If she would have pushed down on her or kicked her, she would have had a more serious ban.

He can't comprehend that.

You've easily reached 6 foot in that grave you been digging.