2023-24 NBA Season Thread

[Scottish Punk]

Are we assuming Kyrie is going to resign with Mavs. He is going to want like a four year or 3 with a player option. Mavs willing to drink that poison? Or is Kyrie waiting to see how things shake out in the LA teams? Somewhere else?

[daeve]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Are we assuming Kyrie is going to resign with Mavs. He is going to want like a four year or 3 with a player option. Mavs willing to drink that poison? Or is Kyrie waiting to see how things shake out in the LA teams? Somewhere else?

Haven't heard or seen anything about him. Pretty sure he and Mavs are stuck with each other, unless some team with some cap loses out on Dame, CP3, and FVV.

[jcmel323]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Are we assuming Kyrie is going to resign with Mavs. He is going to want like a four year or 3 with a player option. Mavs willing to drink that poison? Or is Kyrie waiting to see how things shake out in the LA teams? Somewhere else?

there's no other option for mavs. You can't lose him after giving dinwiddie, finnie smith and 3 picks. Sign him at whatever and then decide.
Wouldn't surprise me if they do a sign and trade with miami.
Those 2 franchises always help each other thru the years.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by jcmel323

there's no other option for mavs. You can't lose him after giving dinwiddie, finnie smith and 3 picks. Sign him at whatever and then decide.
Wouldn't surprise me if they do a sign and trade with miami.
Those 2 franchises always help each other thru the years.

The Mavs should try their hardest to get someone else.

They need a legit big so badly.

Bullock is owed less next season if a team wants to waive him. Bertans owed less the season after.

What a crap show. Hopefully they can get some quality around Luka otherwise that trade along with losing Brunson has set them back 5 years and probably sees Luka walk. He just has to if next season doesn't go well.

[daeve]

Indiana would make a lot of sense for Draymond if he were to leave... Would help them hit that next level into playoff team and give them some toughness and playmaking.

Haliburton-Mathurin-Hield-Draymond-Turner. Its a really easy fit since Turner can shoot.

Still have depth with Nembhard-McConnell-J Smith-Nesmith-Duarte on the bench. Can attach a pick to Theis and ship him to Washington open up a bit more cap space. Can even frontload Draymond's contract so they don't have issues later when Hali and Mathurin need to get paid.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by daeve

Indiana would make a lot of sense for Draymond if he were to leave... Would help them hit that next level into playoff team and give them some toughness and playmaking.

Haliburton-Mathurin-Hield-Draymond-Turner. Its a really easy fit since Turner can shoot.

Still have depth with Nembhard-McConnell-J Smith-Nesmith-Duarte on the bench. Can attach a pick to Theis and ship him to Washington open up a bit more cap space. Can even frontload Draymond's contract so they don't have issues later when Hali and Mathurin need to get paid.

Sorry, why would you want Nesmith on the bench when he is 10 years younger than Draymond and getting to be as good defensively? Draymond would be a great second team addition alongside McConnel and Nembhard. Of course salary dictates...

And Duarte? I believe the Pacers need to open space. He is not moving upward on the team. Wizards actually sounds right. I guess Jordan Nwora and Oshae Brissett will continue to improve be secondary anchors.

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Sorry, why would you want Nesmith on the bench when he is 10 years younger than Draymond and getting to be as good defensively? Draymond would be a great second team addition alongside McConnel and Nembhard. Of course salary dictates...

And Duarte? I believe the Pacers need to open space. He is not moving upward on the team. Wizards actually sounds right. I guess Jordan Nwora and Oshae Brissett will continue to improve be secondary anchors.

Right now, Nesmith needs to be on the second unit. He started out of necessity last season. He's improving and is going to be very good, but he needs some more seasoning to get to a higher level.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Sorry, why would you want Nesmith on the bench when he is 10 years younger than Draymond and getting to be as good defensively? Draymond would be a great second team addition alongside McConnel and Nembhard. Of course salary dictates...

And Duarte? I believe the Pacers need to open space. He is not moving upward on the team. Wizards actually sounds right. I guess Jordan Nwora and Oshae Brissett will continue to improve be secondary anchors.

Draymond was in 99th percentile on DEPM, Nesmith was in 32nd. Find a new slant.

[WaiverWire]

Originally Posted by daeve

Draymond was in 99th percentile on DEPM, Nesmith was in 32nd. Find a new slant.

Lol - that reminds me of Colangelo. “That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.”

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by daeve

Draymond was in 99th percentile on DEPM, Nesmith was in 32nd. Find a new slant.

Draymond is staying with the Warriors anyway.

No reason to overthink it.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by daeve

Draymond was in 99th percentile on DEPM, Nesmith was in 32nd. Find a new slant.

Seems like DRTG is the metric in use these days? Nesmith 118.8, Draymond 112, unless I am missing something.

Also:

"Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings...."

What this means is that 6'5 Nesmith's accomplishment is all the more formidable, considering the Pacers were 28th in defense league wide.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Seems like DRTG is the metric in use these days? Nesmith 118.8, Draymond 112, unless I am missing something.

Also:

"Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings...."

What this means is that 6'5 Nesmith's accomplishment is all the more formidable, considering the Pacers were 28th in defense league wide.

It's not. He's negative defensively in both RAPTOR and EPM

[ninjacookies]

Good thing for the Mavs is they potentially have half the roster coming off the books.

I don't agree with many on here. Keep Kyrie. He was damn good when he was on the floor last year with no apparent on or off the floor issues.

Why make the same mistake you did with Brunson?

You're just going to keep sifting through talented guards trying to find a perfect fit that'll never come. The issue is getting Luka to shift his game to establish positive synergy with a talented secondary scorer/shot creator. That's on the coaching staff and Luka himself.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Good thing for the Mavs is they potentially have half the roster coming off the books.

I don't agree with many on here. Keep Kyrie. He was damn good when he was on the floor last year with no apparent on or off the floor issues.

Why make the same mistake you did with Brunson?

You're just going to keep sifting through talented guards trying to find a perfect fit that'll never come. The issue is getting Luka to shift his game to establish positive synergy with a talented secondary scorer/shot creator. That's on the coaching staff and Luka himself.

They of course need to keep Kyrie if they can't do any better.

[brothertona]

Portland seems to be throwing names against the wall to try and appease Dame. They just need to break down and trade him.

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/sta...341919745?s=20

[WaiverWire]

Originally Posted by brothertona

Portland seems to be throwing names against the wall to try and appease Dame. They just need to break down and trade him.

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/sta...341919745?s=20

Portland successfully trading for Bam is about as likely as me dating a supermodel. I mean it’s not zero percent.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by WaiverWire

Portland successfully trading for Bam is about as likely as me dating a supermodel. I mean it’s not zero percent.

Granted, Damian Lillard has more of a chance of dating a supermodel than any of us.

[jcmel323]

Originally Posted by brothertona

Portland seems to be throwing names against the wall to try and appease Dame. They just need to break down and trade him.

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/sta...341919745?s=20

I'm curious to see what that significant offer is
They could offer nurkic, jerami grant and 3 1st round picks and still miami wont be interested.

[brothertona]

Originally Posted by jcmel323

I'm curious to see what that significant offer is
They could offer nurkic, jerami grant and 3 1st round picks and still miami wont be interested.

I’m assuming significant would be Sharpe, Simons, #3 plus future picks


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[Braswell10]

Originally Posted by brothertona

I’m assuming significant would be Sharpe, Simons, #3 plus future picks


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Bam is not worth all of that. I would rather have KAT.

[Spacemanspif]

18 pts / 10 reb / 4 asst / 1.6 stock / 2.7 TO / 48% FG / 82% FT / made the Finals again / 69 career playoff games and 8 series wins in 6 years

18 pts / 10 reb / 2 asst / 1.4 stock / 3.6 TO / 46% FG / 75% FT / 25% 3P / another first round exit / 16 career playoff games and 0 series wins in 8 years

[daeve]

It's exactly what they're doing so they can go to his camp and be like "well, we tried". We saw the same thing when Bkln FO was trying to get Ant+KAT plus 4 1sts from Minny for KD. It's a publicity stunt.

[daeve]

[Haynes] Toronto Raptors guard Gary Trent Jr. will opt into his $18.5 million player option for the 2023-24 season, CEO Rich Paul and agent Lucas Newton of Klutch Sports tells @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.

interesting development. Either his agent tested the market and was disappointed, or GTJ has a handshake deal that he'll be extended and then traded, or he was really impressed with and/or guaranteed to not be benched again by the new coach and is expecting an extension offer from Masai.

[Dodgerfan74]

Lakers should go after Kuzma. Bring him back Lakers

[Braswell10]

Now that the Wizards have some cap space, I expect them to resign Kuzma and then S&T him. Most teams would only be able to acquire him via sign and trade anyways.