First Buzz: 2018 Topps Heritage baseball cards - Page 77

brentandbecca · 02-23-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

and I am assuming those are not announced?

you mean not on the checklist? they are not
but they are announced on sell sheet etc, always have been

prospects · 02-23-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

you mean not on the checklist? they are not
but they are announced on sell sheet etc, always have been

Okay, thanks for your time. So, who will be a throwback this year?

brentandbecca · 02-23-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Okay, thanks for your time. So, who will be a throwback this year?

no clue, but probably the top 10 guys for sure, then 15 others haha

PDCCollectibles · 02-23-2018, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

could u give me an example of what non auto non numbered card in this product would go for four figures

Judge throwback

kyle1707 · 02-23-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

here are most of the odds, but then I must get back to work, haha

throwback 1:6573
blue auto 1:154
red auto 1:1003
dual auto 1:5045
triple auto 1:50906
pilot auto 1:3464
RJ buyback auto 1:244512
auto relic 1:11986
1969 mint nickel 1:4480
1969 stamp 1:3524

black border 1:52 (hobby exclusive, limited to 50)
flip stock 1:512 (hobby exclusive limited to 5)
magenta back 1:691 (hobby & retail, limited to 10)

action 1:35
color swap 1:205
chrome 1:35
black chrome 1:501 (these used to be 1 per case)
chrome gold 1:2557
chrome super 1:34931
mini 1:262

Well i love busting Heritage regardless... thanks

I guess i can look forward to opening this at 80 bucks in a month

DJP73 · 02-23-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

no clue, but probably the top 10 guys for sure, then 15 others haha

Hey Brent Is KO doing Heritage this year, That would help drive up pricing . Throw backs could get pricey

PDCCollectibles · 02-23-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

Well i love busting Heritage regardless... thanks

I guess i can look forward to opening this at 80 bucks in a month

Me too, can't wait for Wednesday....or Tuesday hopefully 😉

anusinha · 02-23-2018, 06:05 PM

magenta back 1:691 (hobby & retail, limited to 10)

Can someone calculate how much retail is out there based on this?
Also WRT Topps Chrome.... if its like Manziel mania in football, expect nearly 10,000 cases... actually wasnt Bowman Chrome with Strasburg around there?

PDCCollectibles · 02-23-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

it is disgusting that I will be opening a box and might not even get a numbered card.

To coin your phrase: "Gotta pay to play"

tribefan26 · 02-23-2018, 06:10 PM

Based on chrome gold, I get 1,278,500 hobby packs, which 53,271 boxes, about 4,440 cases.

But they said there are 10 RJ buy backs autos. At 244,512 odds, 5 in hobby would indicate 1,222,560 packs. The OCD actuary in me really hates it when they post odd that simply cannot work.

brentandbecca · 02-23-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP73

Hey Brent Is KO doing Heritage this year, That would help drive up pricing . Throw backs could get pricey

only Pilots autos

anusinha · 02-23-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tribefan26

Based on chrome gold, I get 1,278,500 hobby packs, which 53,271 boxes, about 4,440 cases.

But they said there are 10 RJ buy backs autos. At 244,512 odds, 5 in hobby would indicate 1,222,560 packs. The OCD actuary in me really hates it when they post odd that simply cannot work.

probably stuff gets held back

tribefan26 · 02-23-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

magenta back 1:691 (hobby & retail, limited to 10)

Can someone calculate how much retail is out there based on this?
Also WRT Topps Chrome.... if its like Manziel mania in football, expect nearly 10,000 cases... actually wasnt Bowman Chrome with Strasburg around there?

The odds will likely be different between hobby and retail - I think the parentheses only indicate that they will be in both.

At 691, it looks like 1,850 will be in hobby. 3,150 in retail. But with different retail packaging it won’t be easy to figure out the total retail print run.

brentandbecca · 02-23-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tribefan26

Based on chrome gold, I get 1,278,500 hobby packs, which 53,271 boxes, about 4,440 cases.

But they said there are 10 RJ buy backs autos. At 244,512 odds, 5 in hobby would indicate 1,222,560 packs. The OCD actuary in me really hates it when they post odd that simply cannot work.

you can also base it on the black borders /50 1:52 = 1.3 mil packs or 4514 cases

but they usually hold back 5-10% for replacements so that could be your difference

brentandbecca · 02-23-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

probably stuff gets held back

yes, correct!

anusinha · 02-23-2018, 06:15 PM

Let me try it myself...

5000 total magenta back... at 1:691 in hobby with 1.27 mill packs.. thats 1837 that are in hobby packs, which leaves 3163 in retail. I suppose we will need the official retail odds before we can see how much retail there is.

auctionjmm · 02-23-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

magenta back 1:691 (hobby & retail, limited to 10)

Can someone calculate how much retail is out there based on this?
Also WRT Topps Chrome.... if its like Manziel mania in football, expect nearly 10,000 cases... actually wasnt Bowman Chrome with Strasburg around there?

Similar concerns with Bowman this year now. Was such a relief to see Bowman with 35 and 46 prospect autos the past two years after 50 and 54 the previous two. We could easily go to 60 or 70 this year and back down the dark road of production high enough to burst the bubble.

I always thought the bubble would burst due to a poor rookie class. Never thought Topps would burst their own bubble AGAIN by going back to 2010 or 2014. But I guess memories are short and grudges have been let go. 2 years ago distributors were protesting Topps by ordering less. Topps got so pissed off they made Finest a hobby shop exclusive to fire a warning shot. Everyone kissed and made up and now we are heading right back down the chute.

tribefan26 · 02-23-2018, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

probably stuff gets held back

Makes sense that would account for about 20 golds not being packed out.

kyle1707 · 02-23-2018, 06:17 PM

Man did they make a ton of series 1 and Heritage... lol

yikes

tribefan26 · 02-23-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

you can also base it on the black borders /50 1:52 = 1.3 mil packs or 4514 cases

but they usually hold back 5-10% for replacements so that could be your difference

It will be interesting to see the RJ odds in retail, but I suspect 5 of them are in hobby and the print run is 1,222,560 hobby packs, 50,940 boxes which is 4,245 cases.

If 25 action that means about 1,500 each, which think is what we saw last year.

ThoseBackPages · 02-23-2018, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tribefan26

It will be interesting to see the RJ odds in retail, but I suspect 5 of them are in hobby and the print run is 1,222,560 hobby packs, 50,940 boxes which is 4,245 cases.

If 25 action that means about 1,500 each, which think is what we saw last year.

except that im expecting Ohtani to be SPd vs other Actions. i know, i know that makes no sense, but we're talking about Topps here lol

chezball · 02-23-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Topps gains my respect more every year. They know how to hustle.

1 auto a case...LOL

You're the k13 of the baseball section.

tribefan26 · 02-23-2018, 06:30 PM

1,222,560 packs also means 35 supers in hobby. Pretty close to the percent of the magenta in hobby. Looks like they cranked up the retail PR also!

ThoseBackPages · 02-23-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

You're the k13 of the baseball section.

ThoseBackPages · 02-23-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tribefan26

1,222,560 packs also means 35 supers in hobby. Pretty close to the percent of the magenta in hobby. Looks like they cracked up the retail PR also!

GOOD! i want to be able to find some this year! LOL

02-23-2018, 06:30 PM	#1923
tribefan26 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: America's Finest City! Posts: 3,274	1,222,560 packs also means 35 supers in hobby. Pretty close to the percent of the magenta in hobby. Looks like they cranked up the retail PR also! Last edited by tribefan26; 02-23-2018 at 06:35 PM.

02-23-2018, 06:05 PM	#1908
anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,535	magenta back 1:691 (hobby & retail, limited to 10) Can someone calculate how much retail is out there based on this? Also WRT Topps Chrome.... if its like Manziel mania in football, expect nearly 10,000 cases... actually wasnt Bowman Chrome with Strasburg around there?

02-23-2018, 06:10 PM	#1910
tribefan26 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: America's Finest City! Posts: 3,274	Based on chrome gold, I get 1,278,500 hobby packs, which 53,271 boxes, about 4,440 cases. But they said there are 10 RJ buy backs autos. At 244,512 odds, 5 in hobby would indicate 1,222,560 packs. The OCD actuary in me really hates it when they post odd that simply cannot work.

02-23-2018, 06:15 PM	#1916
anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,535	Let me try it myself... 5000 total magenta back... at 1:691 in hobby with 1.27 mill packs.. thats 1837 that are in hobby packs, which leaves 3163 in retail. I suppose we will need the official retail odds before we can see how much retail there is.

02-23-2018, 06:17 PM	#1919
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,404	Man did they make a ton of series 1 and Heritage... lol yikes