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Everyone is dismissing the Tatis injury risk though. |
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Houston, TX
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I've said this before, I like Acuna. He's a great player. Calling him generational right now, is crazy. I'm not even saying Soto or Tatis are generational at this moment. Soto beats Acuna in average, OBP by a ton, slugging, OPS, OPS+, doubles. Fun fact, Soto had more extra base hits than Acuna last year. If you ask people, some would even argue Acuna's 2018 season was better than his 2019 season. Everybody just looks at the 40/40 and go bonkers. He was more productive in 2018 though, and it seemed he was starting to produce at those levels again in 2020. Then you look at Soto, and he has gotten better between 2018 and now. His average dipped last year, but his walk rate increased, his slugging increased, and he was more productive.
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Location: BullDawg Country
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Join Date: Feb 2020
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Right now I think Tatis Jr. has passed Acuna, and I think he's rounding the corner on Soto. Though what Soto is doing right now, at his age is quite incredible.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Carolina
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I'm sure he could take a little bit off of his swing and hit more doubles if he wanted to. He just prefers to have them landing in the stands.
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Location: GOAT City
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Soto and Tatis are going to be the best in baseball for the next 10.
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#158 |
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Join Date: Jul 2019
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It does not have to be either or with Acuna and Soto or Acuna and Tatis. You can buy all of them and hedge your bets. Plus you can buy 2018 product and keep it unopened and get the benefit of both Acuna and Soto plus Torres, Ohtani, Meadows, Bieber....
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#159 | |
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FTR, I hope Acuna does well. I like him as a player. I just don't think he's as good a hitter as Soto Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
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#160 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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I like all 3 plain and simple. I have invested in all 3, but you could say that I have doubled down on Soto. I have not picked up any second year cards of Tatis or Acuna because I believe that Soto is the better pick up. He is younger than the other 2 but more advanced at the plate than the others. Soto is going to continue to do Soto things. Tatis and Acuna have been very solid up to this point but with Tatis I would be a little worried about injuries. Acuna needs better plate discipline.
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Another thing people seem to forget is that Soto is only 21 and won't be 22 until the season is pretty much over.
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Join Date: Jun 2020
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Obviously if I pick one, it means the other two guys suck, right? Soto's my guy, but I am a huge fan of Tatis. I appreciate Acuna, but have him a notch below the other two.
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Zebulon Ga
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Zebulon Ga
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I get it, people are worried if they don’t buy now they’ll lose out on a possible super star player, but I’ve gotta see a full season, and maybe more before I spend $275 on his base PSA 10. |
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Gillette Stadium/Foxboro
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By the time you finally see be prepared to pay 600 for the same card Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#167 |
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#168 |
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Join Date: May 2020
Location: Charlotte, NC
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In terms of pure hitting, I think Soto will be the best of the 3. All-around, I'd lean Tatis if he stays at SS.
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Houston, TX
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Yeah, nobody looks at walks, OBP, and OPS, or even OPS+. Soto trails by 8 homeruns in less plate appearances. All this talk about Acuna being the better homerun hitter when they have nearly identical power. 7 homeruns was the difference last year, with Acuna getting 60+ more plate appearances. That's basically 1 more homerun a month, meanwhile Soto is getting on base more and producing more quality at bats. I swear, Acuna fans HATE criticism of him. I say it time again, Acuna is a great player with great potential. He has warranted criticism. Soto does too, but right now, Soto has proven to be the better hitter. That doesn't mean Soto > Acuna, but right now, I want Soto at the plate over Acuna.
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#171 |
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Soto's numbers dwarf Acuna's as I suspected would happen.
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Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: GA to Germany to TX
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Now's the time to buy Acuna. He'll be back. I think he's the most probable multi-MVP candidate of the 3.
Best all-around: Acuna Best at the plate: Soto Hardest hitter: Tatis (even though both Soto and Acuna have a higher hard hit % for 2020, I think it'll be Tatis in the long run)
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Who gets the first MVP?
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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with Acuna out of the playoffs, this is my ranking
1) Soto - no explanation needed really 2) Tatis - tremendous 60 game season and pushed Acuna out of the way 3) Acuna - really fell behind the pack by a mile. He's now on the outside looking in
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