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Old 08-18-2020, 08:07 AM   #126
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I don't see how you don't take the dude that led his team to the WS and has the best bat and plate discipline. At present, Soto is like a surgical scalpel vs tatis/acuna being a jack hammer.
This!!!!!!!

2020 will be the year Soto finally takes over and Acuna drops to #3
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:38 AM   #127
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Tatis for me, but I’ve always had a thing for shortstops more than outfielders. His personality and approach is definitely my favorite of the trio. Personally think he has more of the makings of a team leader than the other guys. Not a fan of the Soto shuffle and Acuna’s lack of hustle attitude plays would definitely make me mad (though he’d make up for it quick with a big HR 2 innings later).

As far as talent goes, not sure you could go wrong with any of the 3. All 3 will be great for years to come.
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:48 AM   #128
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What a fun time in baseball. So much young talent to collect and watch. Hate that Bichette got hurt but Tatis did the same last year and he’s doing well.
I lean towards Soto because of all three he’s performed big in the postseason and helped win a WS at a young age. His stuff is also harder to find so that makes a difference. Acuna is too inconsistent for me. On fire for 3-4 days then 0-8. Maybe Acuna is the next this or that, but I personally see him long term like a Justin Upton or Matt Kemp. Soto can flat out hit, and seems to understand the approach per AB instead of just hunting for a big fly. He seems content driving the ball to the gap to move runners over versus swinging for the fences each time.
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Old 08-18-2020, 08:56 AM   #129
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1. Acuna is the whole package
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2. Soto - has some pop and walks more
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3. Tatis - very exciting start
I see what you are doing and don't necessarily disagree (presently) but SOTO is not that far behind acuna, except to a braves fan.
Even w/o Ronnie's poor start, Soto is a much better hitter. Very much so actually as numbers don't lie

I am still a believer, but I also would not be surprised if acuna continues to struggle at the plate this season once he returns.

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Old 08-18-2020, 09:14 AM   #130
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1. Acuna is the whole package
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2. Soto - has some pop and walks more
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3. Tatis - very exciting start

Right now Acunas packaging is bandaids


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Old 08-18-2020, 10:42 AM   #131
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A tweak of a wrist is not a big deal. He'll be back in a few days.
Here are the stats:

2019: .280 41 HRs, 101 RBI, 37 SBs, 76 BBs, .518 SLG, 127 Runs
2018: .293 26 HRs, 64 RBI, 16 SBs, 45 BBs, .552 SLG, 78 Runs


2019: .282 34 HRs, 110 RBI, 12 SBs, 108 BBs, .548 SLG, 110 Runs
2018: .292 22 HRs, 70 RBI, 5 SBs, 79 BBs, .517 SLG, 77 Runs

Which player has the best numbers over the last two years? We all know.
Acuna's defense and baserunning skills (not only in the SB department) are light years ahead of Soto as well. The excitement factor isn't close either.
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Old 08-18-2020, 10:44 AM   #132
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I see what you are doing and don't necessarily disagree (presently) but SOTO is not that far behind acuna, except to a braves fan.
Even w/o Ronnie's poor start, Soto is a much better hitter. Very much so actually as numbers don't lie

I am still a believer, but I also would not be surprised if acuna continues to struggle at the plate this season once he returns.

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Look at the stats above.

"Soto is a much better hitter. Very much so actually as numbers don't lie."

Wait...what?
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:10 PM   #133
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Look at the stats above.

"Soto is a much better hitter. Very much so actually as numbers don't lie."

Wait...what?
No need to argue with the Sotoians. They only appear when Acuna has a slump or gets injured. They all know deep down who the most talented one is.

Look at your above stats. Then take into consideration the end of last year where he was changing things to try and reach 40/40 causing him to slump for a good period of time. Its the youth in him not knowing how to let the numbers come to him. Its amazing in this game how quickly some things get forgotten. Soto is an incredible hitter. Acuna is a generational talent. He will be reminding everyone soon. Then you will hear crickets from his haters.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:13 PM   #134
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One more note. From a hobbyist standpoint, all three of these are great. Anyone buying Tatis and Soto right now are not bright. And anyone selling Acuna right now is not bright. "Investment 101" tells you to do the opposite of what the masses are doing. When they look left, you look right. That is where you find the value. With three young players like this, you should be able to profit off of each of them many times over for the next couple of years.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:23 PM   #135
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SO
2018 125
2019 188

2018 99
2019 132

I'm taking the guy that doesn't strike out and takes the walks instead of chasing HRs.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:27 PM   #136
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2018 125
2019 188

2018 99
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I'm taking the guy that doesn't strike out and takes the walks instead of chasing HRs.
I think you had a typo. Instead of "Chasing HRs" I think you meant to type "Hitting HRs". All your post says is that they are different hitters. Means nothing when it comes to who the best is. Soto can keep walking to first. Acuna will keep trotting to home.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:34 PM   #137
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One more note. From a hobbyist standpoint, all three of these are great. Anyone buying Tatis and Soto right now are not bright. And anyone selling Acuna right now is not bright. "Investment 101" tells you to do the opposite of what the masses are doing. When they look left, you look right. That is where you find the value. With three young players like this, you should be able to profit off of each of them many times over for the next couple of years.
If you stick to investing 101 with sports cards, most people will never get to own the best players such as Trout, Mahomes, LeBron and others. The greats start good and remain good/get better throughout their career. If you think these guys are all time greats, there is never a bad time to be buying.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:35 PM   #138
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One more note. From a hobbyist standpoint, all three of these are great. Anyone buying Tatis and Soto right now are not bright. And anyone selling Acuna right now is not bright. "Investment 101" tells you to do the opposite of what the masses are doing. When they look left, you look right. That is where you find the value. With three young players like this, you should be able to profit off of each of them many times over for the next couple of years.
Hobby's changed so much. I totally disagree with your assessment of people buying soto and tatis right now.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:37 PM   #139
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1. Acuna is the whole package
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2. Soto - has some pop and walks more
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3. Tatis - very exciting start
Lol Acuna is miles behind both of those guys at this point
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:38 PM   #140
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One more note. From a hobbyist standpoint, all three of these are great. Anyone buying Tatis and Soto right now are not bright. And anyone selling Acuna right now is not bright. "Investment 101" tells you to do the opposite of what the masses are doing. When they look left, you look right. That is where you find the value. With three young players like this, you should be able to profit off of each of them many times over for the next couple of years.

No one likes to catch a falling knife... unfortunately psychology causes a lot of issues with investing smart


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Old 08-18-2020, 12:38 PM   #141
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If you stick to investing 101 with sports cards, most people will never get to own the best players such as Trout, Mahomes, LeBron and others. The greats start good and remain good/get better throughout their career. If you think these guys are all time greats, there is never a bad time to be buying.
Someone missed the point. There are buying opportunities and selling opportunities for every player. Including the Great Mike Trout. I guess someone hasn't followed his card prices during off seasons and slumps. They dip too, just like everyone else's. It is super easy to tell when the golden opportunities present themselves. FYI, if you care, there is one presenting itself right now with Tatis. A blind 4 year old should be able to see the market is on an emotional high right now. Take advantage of it. You can buy back in later for cheaper. I promise.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:39 PM   #142
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I judge my "investments" by who wears the most/biggest chains:

1. Acuna
2. Tatis
3. Soto

Thats the order. Case closed.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:39 PM   #143
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A tweak of a wrist is not a big deal. He'll be back in a few days.
Here are the stats:

2019: .280 41 HRs, 101 RBI, 37 SBs, 76 BBs, .518 SLG, 127 Runs
2018: .293 26 HRs, 64 RBI, 16 SBs, 45 BBs, .552 SLG, 78 Runs


2019: .282 34 HRs, 110 RBI, 12 SBs, 108 BBs, .548 SLG, 110 Runs
2018: .292 22 HRs, 70 RBI, 5 SBs, 79 BBs, .517 SLG, 77 Runs

Which player has the best numbers over the last two years? We all know.
Acuna's defense and baserunning skills (not only in the SB department) are light years ahead of Soto as well. The excitement factor isn't close either.

This. “The Excitement Factor” as you put it, is very important to the hobby. At least it has been the past few years.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:40 PM   #144
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Hobby's changed so much. I totally disagree with your assessment of people buying soto and tatis right now.
Tatis PSA 10 flagship selling for around $275 right now. Just putting that in writing so I can bump this in the near future for you.

Let me go ahead and say it to get it out of the way..............I told you so.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:41 PM   #145
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I like Soto for the long run. I don't have stats to back this statement up, I just feel like I wouldn't be surprised if Tatis/Acuna flared out. Not saying I hope or think they necessarily will.

Soto just seems like the most developed hitter and I'm a sucker for plate discipline/OBP.
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Someone missed the point. There are buying opportunities and selling opportunities for every player. Including the Great Mike Trout. I guess someone hasn't followed his card prices during off seasons and slumps. They dip too, just like everyone else's. It is super easy to tell when the golden opportunities present themselves. FYI, if you care, there is one presenting itself right now with Tatis. A blind 4 year old should be able to see the market is on an emotional high right now. Take advantage of it. You can buy back in later for cheaper. I promise.
I didn't miss the point at all. I understand the game as well as anyone. Just pointing out how your over generalization could be misconstrued. No one that bought Mike Trout back in 2013 would regret that purchase today. While there are plenty of people in this business that love flipping regularly, there are just as many like me who prefer to buy and hold long term.
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I like Soto for the long run. I don't have stats to back this statement up, I just feel like I wouldn't be surprised if Tatis/Acuna flared out. Not saying I hope or think they necessarily will.

Soto just seems like the most developed hitter and I'm a sucker for plate discipline/OBP.
I like Soto and Acuna in the short term and long term. At the same time, it wouldn't surprise me to see either one flame out as many do in this sport. That is why I like to sit on sealed cases of 2018 update. I get exposure to a much larger cast of characters and can root for all of them. It also doesn't hurt as much if one of them doesn't live up to the hype.
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Old 08-18-2020, 01:05 PM   #148
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It’s either Soto or Acuña at this point. Tatis has played in 107 career games... a little over half a season. I’m not staying he’s not gonna be the next greatest player to have ever played, but the hype at this point, along with his card prices is a little crazy. There have been thousands and thousands of guys have a great half season.
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Tatis PSA 10 flagship selling for around $275 right now. Just putting that in writing so I can bump this in the near future for you.

Let me go ahead and say it to get it out of the way..............I told you so.
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It’s either Soto or Acuña at this point. Tatis has played in 107 career games... a little over half a season. I’m not staying he’s not gonna be the next greatest player to have ever played, but the hype at this point, along with his card prices is a little crazy. There have been thousands and thousands of guys have a great half season.
But look at the division he's playing in. He's putting up great numbers in a really good pitchers division with pitcher friendly ball parks. I would think that mlb had more than enough time in the offseason to work an adjustment on him based off of scouting reports and film from last year.
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