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Old 01-28-2019, 11:22 AM   #126
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This. Why would we trade a 20 year old star for 1 season of an injury prone superstar?
Proven commodity vs. future potential. Happens all the time, throughout the world, in all different markets. It just depends on what data you have to make that prediction and what your investment strategy is. Boston's strategy is take the proven talent and try to keep a stream of cost controlled supporting players rotating through.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:25 AM   #127
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I am going to be the "get off my lawn" guy.

I hate when stars do this. This royally screws small market teams.
I’m with you. The NBA just gets more and more lopsided and it’s really bad for small market teams.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:25 AM   #128
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Boston's strategy is take the proven talent and try to keep a stream of cost controlled supporting players rotating through.
In my opinion that's the best way to go.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:27 AM   #129
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If New Orleans was smart they would wait till the summer after they have acquired a new GM
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:27 AM   #130
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if i'm pels i hold him till the summer.

but if they do trade him now philly needs to make the call.

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simmons,fultz,#1, plus scrubs for salary matching

go old school with 2 bigs. spacing would actually be better with AD over simmons.

win the east this year or next to convince him to resign
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:27 AM   #131
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Everyone is focused on 3 teams. What about the dark horses? Warriors or Clippers? The players are better than anyone the Lakers can give them.

Draymond Green, Shaun Livingston, Jordan Bell, 2019 first-round pick, 2021 first-round pick for AD.

Tobias Harris, Lou Williams, SGA & 2021 first-round pick for AD.
Do you really think that trio is better than Ivica, Ingram and Hart?

The Warriors trade, yes. As much as I can't stand Draymond, he's the heart of that team.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:28 AM   #132
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This is key. Every "to Boston" scenario involves NO waiting. I'm not sure that's in their best interest. Especially since AD officially wants out. You'll get more out of teams knowing they'll have Davis for 1 1/2 years. That's almost 2 years to convince him to stay. That diminishes the longer you wait. And the offers diminish with it.
Once AD made it known he's not re-signing in NO's, its now the Pelican's best interest to find the absolute best return regardless of when it happens.
At that point its all about who is coming back and not how quick they ship him off because he wants out or how long he'll have with another team.

They're going to get a crazy return for him no matter what. It just comes down to some teams will know they have a headstart on getting a deal done because Boston's chances are hampered until a certain date. If the NO's GM is that smart he'd use that to his advantage.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:30 AM   #133
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Proven commodity vs. future potential. Happens all the time, throughout the world, in all different markets. It just depends on what data you have to make that prediction and what your investment strategy is. Boston's strategy is take the proven talent and try to keep a stream of cost controlled supporting players rotating through.
So what happens if he leaves after 1 year for LA?
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It just comes down to some teams will know they have a headstart on getting a deal done because Boston's chances are hampered until a certain date.
100% LA knows this and is going tho throw everything at NO in the next week. Anyone not named Lebron is available. They'll try to push it through as fast as they can to fill out the rest of the roster with cheap servicable vets.

NO should leak all potential deals and hope another team bites.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:33 AM   #135
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Bingo!! And they will be firing Dell Demps so they will probably want to wait till a new Gm comes in
This could work both ways:the old GM saves his job by landing a godfather deal for him now. The new GM first move could be landing a godfather deal for him then.
This is a HUGE decision for the Pelican's organization.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:35 AM   #136
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100% LA knows this and is going tho throw everything at NO in the next week. Anyone not named Lebron is available. They'll try to push it through as fast as they can to fill out the rest of the roster with cheap servicable vets.

NO should leak all potential deals and hope another team bites.
If LA doesn't get him by the deadline then I think they are out of the sweepstakes.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:37 AM   #137
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Anybody who is thinking about the Sixers trading Simmons needs to take that hot take and throw it right in the garbage can because it's really dumb and has a less than 0% chance of happening
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100% LA knows this and is going tho throw everything at NO in the next week. Anyone not named Lebron is available. They'll try to push it through as fast as they can to fill out the rest of the roster with cheap servicable vets.

NO should leak all potential deals and hope another team bites.
That would be the smart move by LA or any other team, make them an offer they can't refuse. I don't see Kyrie getting dealt so Boston is sitting on the sidelines till the offseason.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:39 AM   #139
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Does a trade request like this make sellers start dumping guys like Kuzma or similar?
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:39 AM   #140
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This could work both ways:the old GM saves his job by landing a godfather deal for him now. The new GM first move could be landing a godfather deal for him then.
This is a HUGE decision for the Pelican's organization.
The Pels want Dell Demps out bottom line. They need to wait to see what happens with Kyrie so the Lakers and Celtics battle it out at least I hope
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:40 AM   #141
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For those who say he’s injury prone he’s played 150 games out of the possible 164 the last two seasons...

That’s not injury prone.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:42 AM   #142
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So what happens if he leaves after 1 year for LA?
Ainge has consistently been willing to take that risk. That risk was real with the Garnett deal, and Irving deal. Ainge also had a deal on the table for George that had the same risk. He has openly shared a view that he believes once a player is in Boston they will want to remain in Boston.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:43 AM   #143
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The Pels want Dell Demps out bottom line. They need to wait to see what happens with Kyrie so the Lakers and Celtics battle it out at least I hope
Gotcha,I'm honestly not that familiar with the NO's GM situation. This is definitely a franchise altering decision for the team on who they get back. I just hope my C's get a chance,if they don't they can start using some of these assets on someone else instead. Ainge has been holding onto everyone for this one player.
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For those who say he’s injury prone he’s played 150 games out of the possible 164 the last two seasons...

That’s not injury prone.
Stop it! That is way too rational of a take for BO.
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100% LA knows this and is going tho throw everything at NO in the next week. Anyone not named Lebron is available. They'll try to push it through as fast as they can to fill out the rest of the roster with cheap servicable vets.

NO should leak all potential deals and hope another team bites.
If LA misses out on AD like they did with Kawhi and PG I'll throw my own party to celebrate the ineptitude of Magic Johnson.
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Another dark horse is the team I route for.

Brooklyn Nets.

I wouldn't want to see them blow up their team but they have interesting young pieces.

Jarrett Allen, Musa, D'Lo, Harris, & Kurucs

AD & LeVert then sign KD or Kawhi. It is a pipe dream. Haha
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For those who say he’s injury prone he’s played 150 games out of the possible 164 the last two seasons...

That’s not injury prone.
I agree. And some of the names being thrown around here are great. KP in New York can't stay healthy. And Rondo is a walking injury at this stage.
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Another dark horse is the team I route for.

Brooklyn Nets.

I wouldn't want to see them blow up their team but they have interesting young pieces.

Jarrett Allen, Musa, D'Lo, Harris, & Kurucs
Considering what they would have to give up to get AD they'd be left with nothing and he would leave after this season.

They don't have enough to get him and keep him
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Considering what they would have to give up to get AD they'd be left with nothing and he would leave after this season.

They don't have enough to get him and keep him
I agree but I personally don't think what the Lakers would offer is any better.
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I agree. And some of the names being thrown around here are great. KP in New York can't stay healthy. And Rondo is a walking injury at this stage.
Team glass!!

Im not a fan of AD. He might have been healthy for the past 2 seasons but thats no indicator on staying healthy the for the future. 2 seasons would be huge if you only played 3 seaons lol. 10th is the best he has done.
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