✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 593

Neal · 07-31-2023, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

There is no "small" Ohtani rookie card anymore ;D

A very fair point lol

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hammertime · 08-01-2023, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Will not join the drunk sailors.

Good for you man, seriously. Meanwhile I'm over here like

cnewby · 08-01-2023, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ugh. Robbed

Yeah, that was sure to be a solid double.

Rage · 08-01-2023, 08:40 AM

Entering August 1st - 8.0 bWAR for SHOHEI

Next highest in AL is Cole with 4.7
Highest in NL is Acuna with 5.4

NCWolf · 08-01-2023, 08:59 AM

Shohei's closest hitting comp..

A high average Matt Olson

Shohei's closest pitching comp...

?

imbluestreak23 · 08-01-2023, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Entering August 1st - 8.0 bWAR for SHOHEI

Next highest in AL is Cole with 4.7
Highest in NL is Acuna with 5.4

He deserves the MLB MVP, not AL MVP lol

SupermanBrandon · 08-01-2023, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

He deserves the MLB MVP, not AL MVP lol

As soft as most of the NBA is, he probably deserves some votes for the NBA MVP as well.

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BoSoxFan1999 · 08-01-2023, 09:28 AM

Ohtani was IBB'ed 4 times pre-AS break (91 games).
He's been IBB'ed 9 times since the break (15 games). He's not even gonna get a fair chance to break Judge's record because all teams are gonna give him nothing to hit unless it's a blowout.

imbluestreak23 · 08-01-2023, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

As soft as most of the NBA is, he probably deserves some votes for the NBA MVP as well.

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Hahaha, no doubt!

hammertime · 08-01-2023, 09:55 AM

I'm reading a book about the 1920 season, and it talks a lot about how much Ruth was pitched around, something neither he nor the fans were very happy about. Anyway this proposal was put forth to deal with intentional walks, which I thought was interesting. Obviously with the emphasis on pitch counts these days it would be a much bigger deal than it would've been 100 years ago, but I had never heard of this idea before.

Boo · 08-01-2023, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Ohtani was IBB'ed 4 times pre-AS break (91 games).
He's been IBB'ed 9 times since the break (15 games). He's not even gonna get a fair chance to break Judge's record because all teams are gonna give him nothing to hit unless it's a blowout.

Bonds was IBB 120 times in 2004, with a total of 232 BB. He still hit 45 HRs (with some help). You have to take advantage when they pitch to you.

Rage · 08-01-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

I'm reading a book about the 1920 season, and it talks a lot about how much Ruth was pitched around, something neither he nor the fans were very happy about. Anyway this proposal was put forth to deal with intentional walks, which I thought was interesting. Obviously with the emphasis on pitch counts these days it would be a much bigger deal than it would've been 100 years ago, but I had never heard of this idea before.

On the broadcast they mentioned an idea to make it so each batter can only be IBB'd once a game, fun idea

zworykin · 08-01-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rage

On the broadcast they mentioned an idea to make it so each batter can only be IBB'd once a game, fun idea

How do you enforce that? How do you differentiate between an IBB and a pitcher who just missed the zone four times in a row? I'm all for trying to figure out a solution here - we all hate excessive IBBs - it's just tricky.

SupermanBrandon · 08-01-2023, 10:21 AM

Ive never been a fan of the IBB. Throw the dang baseball. Miss the zone all you want. But make the pitchers throw the ball.

ClevelandIC · 08-01-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rage

On the broadcast they mentioned an idea to make it so each batter can only be IBB'd once a game, fun idea

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Originally Posted by zworykin

How do you enforce that? How do you differentiate between an IBB and a pitcher who just missed the zone four times in a row? I'm all for trying to figure out a solution here - we all hate excessive IBBs - it's just tricky.

This will never happen but a walk progression would be cool. If you're walked once in the game you go to first, second walk you go straight to second and so on.

hammertime · 08-01-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Ive never been a fan of the IBB. Throw the dang baseball. Miss the zone all you want. But make the pitchers throw the ball.

Agreed, and it can lead to fun moments such as this one.

fulltritty · 08-01-2023, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

This will never happen but a walk progression would be cool. If you're walked once in the game you go to first, second walk you go straight to second and so on.

I bet you like the ghost runner on second base in extra innings too.

BC Hunt · 08-01-2023, 10:37 AM

BAN THE IBB!

ClevelandIC · 08-01-2023, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

I bet you like the ghost runner on second base in extra innings too.

You are the wettest of blankets. I 100% would vote against both rules, but a walk progression would deter IBBs - the only goal.

Zauron · 08-01-2023, 10:52 AM

I'm heavily debating if I want to unload my Chrome Update rookie stash or not.

I might get in with my buddy and grade them all, we all know with that set it's fairly "easy" to get a 10.

Boo · 08-01-2023, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

I'm heavily debating if I want to unload my Chrome Update rookie stash or not.

I might get in with my buddy and grade them all, we all know with that set it's fairly "easy" to get a 10.

Upload the stash and upgrade to a SP or low number parallel.

ctau00 · 08-01-2023, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

I'm heavily debating if I want to unload my Chrome Update rookie stash or not.

I might get in with my buddy and grade them all, we all know with that set it's fairly "easy" to get a 10.

I'm in the same boat with both Chrome and Update... debating it hard because I'm not a fan of grading.

Ziggy · 08-01-2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stringmusic

Well I bought tickets to the game in Atl on Wednesday thinking Ohtani would pitch but looks like he’s not going. Really sucks because we don’t get the Angels in town often. Does he normally go more than 5 days between starts?

As fun as it would be to see him play, he did just pitch a 9 inning shutout, so the man probably deserves a bit more rest.

majestik101 · 08-01-2023, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy

As fun as it would be to see him play, he did just pitch a 9 inning shutout, so the man probably deserves a bit more rest.

GTFOH with that. We all have cards to send in to PSA for grading and cards to sell. He can rest all he wants after the season

Stringmusic · 08-01-2023, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

GTFOH with that. We all have cards to send in to PSA for grading and cards to sell. He can rest after the season

I agree! Can somebody tell him I took 8 hours time off work to see him?!?!

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08-01-2023, 08:59 AM	#14805
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08-01-2023, 09:28 AM	#14808
BoSoxFan1999 Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,837 bro19991 Bro19999	Ohtani was IBB'ed 4 times pre-AS break (91 games). He's been IBB'ed 9 times since the break (15 games). He's not even gonna get a fair chance to break Judge's record because all teams are gonna give him nothing to hit unless it's a blowout.

08-01-2023, 09:55 AM	#14810
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,874	I'm reading a book about the 1920 season, and it talks a lot about how much Ruth was pitched around, something neither he nor the fans were very happy about. Anyway this proposal was put forth to deal with intentional walks, which I thought was interesting. Obviously with the emphasis on pitch counts these days it would be a much bigger deal than it would've been 100 years ago, but I had never heard of this idea before.

08-01-2023, 10:21 AM	#14814
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Ive never been a fan of the IBB. Throw the dang baseball. Miss the zone all you want. But make the pitchers throw the ball.

08-01-2023, 10:37 AM	#14818
BC Hunt Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,743 bicum70	BAN THE IBB!