Skybox 2024 1992 MM Platinum

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I'd put that at six figures easy. Mickey Mouse 1/1 Super from the Disney100 set went for $500k (allegedly), and the LOTR MTG Ring went for $2M. I think we're all in agreement that this is THE SET for all Marvel collectors right? The only thing holding this back from being on par with the Mickey is that there are 3 versions, and it's debatable between the Gold PMG and the Golden Treasures which would be the "true" top card. I don't think people are ripping $3k cases in hopes of hitting a top card worth only 10x their investment. TBH if it was available for $40-50k I'd figure out a way to make it work, I would have to move a ton of smaller cards but would rather have this card than a closet full of boxes of parallel sets.

I was thinking this too, how can the top card (or top 3 card) in the product be worth just 10x case….it would take wayyyy more than 10 cases on average to hit this. I know it doesn’t quite work like that, but still.

I’m wary on calling cards $100k+ in marvel right now…high end market is too unpredictable, and has taken a beating in marvel. 4 years ago I would say surely it would be six figures without blinking. I do not question this is the hot set, and this is best of the best in it. Could it be $100k+? I’m not saying it couldn’t. My guess would be lower, but hey who knows. There just aren’t that many deep pocket players dropping this kinda money in the hobby currently. If the Mickey super was even a legit sale…it’s not necessarily gonna apply to this (sports crowd heavily got into Chrome, lots of artificialness going on).

I look at it with boxes of parallel sets, like the rarer ones, at least you can break them up to sell. A super high end card like this is not gonna be all that liquid in the marvel card hobby. Comics and sports cards - much easier to sell super high end with deep pocket collectors abound. Not as easy to sell several tens of thousands of dollars cards in marvel.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by meandsharon11

That’s the other issue with fakes. They can’t seem to get the serial # right. If that’s the Psylock then I see why it was taken down.

Yea I’ve seen this a lot with 90s fakes in sports, serial number discrepancies.

Would have been nice if UD made the back of the superfractors more different than the base outside of this small “1 of 1” stamp and the Golden Treasures text. It’s *possible* the white area is a slightly darker shade on golden treasures but not 100% on that, still looking into this.

[Watchmee]

No one else here is bothered by the fact that we are discussing 5-6 digit price tags on a 100% recycled images just because someone decided to put a stamp in the corner that says "1 of 1"? (it was already discussed that UD was so greedy that created multiple ""unique" 1 of 1" )

Let's start with the fact that, even Joe Jusko, the artist behind the original artwork didn't know such reprint is coming out:

Originally Posted by Fenian95

Jusko officially announced this set was a total surprise to him. Autos were a mistake added to the sell sheet.
. . .

How exactly asking someone to play with layers in Photoshop to add shiny background qualifies as "1 of 1" chef-d'oeuvre (aka "new masterpiece") worth that much?

True, some of the background parallels created in this set enhance specific characters and printing cards like that 32 years ago was not possible so they are worth picking up as parallels to the original artwork but "... six figures easy."

... or maybe just as the saying goes "specific category of ppl are born every day and they need to be separated from their $$$"

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by Watchmee

No one else here is bothered by the fact that we are discussing 5-6 digit price tags on a 100% recycled images just because someone decided to put a stamp in the corner that says "1 of 1"? (it was already discussed that UD was so greedy that created multiple ""unique" 1 of 1" )

Let's start with the fact that, even Joe Jusko, the artist behind the original artwork didn't know such reprint is coming out:


How exactly asking someone to play with layers in Photoshop to add shiny background qualifies as "1 of 1" chef-d'oeuvre (aka "new masterpiece") worth that much?

True, some of the background parallels created in this set enhance specific characters and printing cards like that 32 years ago was not possible so they are worth picking up as parallels to the original artwork but "... six figures easy."

... or maybe just as the saying goes "specific category of ppl are born every day and they need to be separated from their $$$"

Jusko doesn’t have to know they are reprinting the set. If there are royalties due, then Upper Deck will send him a check, but not required to inform him of a reprint.


#2… the 1992 masterpieces was the first masterpieces set ever made. I am 42, and literally these were the first cards I even collected. This 2024 platinum reprint set has a HUGE nostalgia factor to it. Top that on the fact that 1/1 pmg and superfractor cards sell for thousands anyway, and you get these prices.


This is just how the card hobby is.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I was thinking this too, how can the top card (or top 3 card) in the product be worth just 10x case….it would take wayyyy more than 10 cases on average to hit this. I know it doesn’t quite work like that, but still.

I’m wary on calling cards $100k+ in marvel right now…high end market is too unpredictable, and has taken a beating in marvel. 4 years ago I would say surely it would be six figures without blinking. I do not question this is the hot set, and this is best of the best in it. Could it be $100k+? I’m not saying it couldn’t. My guess would be lower, but hey who knows. There just aren’t that many deep pocket players dropping this kinda money in the hobby currently. If the Mickey super was even a legit sale…it’s not necessarily gonna apply to this (sports crowd heavily got into Chrome, lots of artificialness going on).

I look at it with boxes of parallel sets, like the rarer ones, at least you can break them up to sell. A super high end card like this is not gonna be all that liquid in the marvel card hobby. Comics and sports cards - much easier to sell super high end with deep pocket collectors abound. Not as easy to sell several tens of thousands of dollars cards in marvel.

Yeah I mean box / case price is not the greatest metric, as there is no general formula for relating box price and pack odds, but to me the "only 10x" seems too low for such long odds, at least in my experience from the basketball card side of things.

I think when discussing cards with this kind of significance, there is a whole different set of "collectors" who buy them that aren't as generally involved with the day-to-day collecting that we are. Post Malone, who bought the Ring for $2M, probably isn't on his phone checking ebay every day trying to snipe that $50 card for $40 to fill out his collection, ya know? The other niche market I'm involved in is WNBA, which was VERY niche up until Caitlin Clark, and still remains a pretty small corner of the sports collecting hobby. Outside of Caitlin Clark, there have only been 5 sales of $10k or higher, 2 of which occurred in the past month, and I would say only 2 or 3 of them are things that a "true collector" would have bought. Then there's Caitlin Clark. There are 72 sales of $10k or higher since the beginning of 2024, including 9 sales of $100k+, going as high as $366k. I have no idea who the people are who are spending all this money, but I do know the people who have been collecting WNBA for years and none of us have even been participating in these auctions. All that said, I could be completely wrong thinking that this type of "rich supercollector" would cross over into the non-sport section, but something tells me that if this card surfaced on Goldin it would get driven way way up by some rich guys who want to own something this significant.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Watchmee

No one else here is bothered by the fact that we are discussing 5-6 digit price tags on a 100% recycled images just because someone decided to put a stamp in the corner that says "1 of 1"? (it was already discussed that UD was so greedy that created multiple ""unique" 1 of 1" )

Let's start with the fact that, even Joe Jusko, the artist behind the original artwork didn't know such reprint is coming out:


How exactly asking someone to play with layers in Photoshop to add shiny background qualifies as "1 of 1" chef-d'oeuvre (aka "new masterpiece") worth that much?

True, some of the background parallels created in this set enhance specific characters and printing cards like that 32 years ago was not possible so they are worth picking up as parallels to the original artwork but "... six figures easy."

... or maybe just as the saying goes "specific category of ppl are born every day and they need to be separated from their $$$"

the Shohei Ohtani 50th HR ball sold for over $4M, even though it's "just a ball", and he ended up hitting 4 more home runs that year. sometimes people all just agree that something is THE THING TO HAVE, and prices go crazy

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by Watchmee

No one else here is bothered by the fact that we are discussing 5-6 digit price tags on a 100% recycled images just because someone decided to put a stamp in the corner that says "1 of 1"? (it was already discussed that UD was so greedy that created multiple ""unique" 1 of 1" )

Let's start with the fact that, even Joe Jusko, the artist behind the original artwork didn't know such reprint is coming out:


How exactly asking someone to play with layers in Photoshop to add shiny background qualifies as "1 of 1" chef-d'oeuvre (aka "new masterpiece") worth that much?

True, some of the background parallels created in this set enhance specific characters and printing cards like that 32 years ago was not possible so they are worth picking up as parallels to the original artwork but "... six figures easy."

... or maybe just as the saying goes "specific category of ppl are born every day and they need to be separated from their $$$"

I am a bit bothered that Marvel cards can go for that much, but not because it was a reprint set with rare variants. I actually embraced the fact that it's a reprint set with rare variants of an iconic set that was overprinted with no rare cards. I'm not a typical Marvel cards collector and I am usually not interested in post early 90s Marvel cards, but the early 90s Marvel cards are very nostalgic for me, so I do go crazy over this set and I would hope some day, they would do something similar with the 1992 Xmen set, the 1991 Marvel Universe set, and the 1992 Marvel Universe set.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

the Shohei Ohtani 50th HR ball sold for over $4M, even though it's "just a ball", and he ended up hitting 4 more home runs that year. sometimes people all just agree that something is THE THING TO HAVE, and prices go crazy

Pretty much this. It only takes a few people with influence and/or money to make something "ordinary" worth an extraordinary amount of money.

If the 2024 Topps Chrome Spider-Man Super that is for sale is worth even 2% of the asking price($5M * 2% = $100k), I don't see why the '92 Super couldn't be in that same ballpark. I suspect that statement alone could cause an argument... 2024 Topps Chrome SEEMS to be worth more on the higher end than 2024 MM '92 is... I'm just not sure who it is that is buying some of the Topps Chrome stuff. Doesn't seem like it'd be "true collectors" to me, but what do I know...

I do have a 1/1(not a super, but dare I say as unique as one?) of a highly collected character for sale currently. I will say I am still clueless as to what it is worth, but I listed it for what I figured would be a "ok you can have it" price and see what happened. The answer is... nothing, really. Watchers. Haha.

My guess, as far as the 2024 MM '92 Spidey "Super" price... I say it doesn't go for less than $50k and it could go for upwards of $100k... But in the end, I think it'd find a home for... $65,001... Price Is Right style

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Watchmee

No one else here is bothered by the fact that we are discussing 5-6 digit price tags on a 100% recycled images just because someone decided to put a stamp in the corner that says "1 of 1"? (it was already discussed that UD was so greedy that created multiple ""unique" 1 of 1" )

Let's start with the fact that, even Joe Jusko, the artist behind the original artwork didn't know such reprint is coming out:


How exactly asking someone to play with layers in Photoshop to add shiny background qualifies as "1 of 1" chef-d'oeuvre (aka "new masterpiece") worth that much?

True, some of the background parallels created in this set enhance specific characters and printing cards like that 32 years ago was not possible so they are worth picking up as parallels to the original artwork but "... six figures easy."

... or maybe just as the saying goes "specific category of ppl are born every day and they need to be separated from their $$$"

All valid points regarding manufactured scarcity. I think the reprint nature of this set isn’t inherently a bad thing for its demand/market. I think it actually helps it, for a few reasons-

1. The art is iconic. A lot of other newer sets like FU Wolverine, Flair etc, may have nice new art…but it really hasnt become iconic in the way the 92MM set which basically transcended the hobby, and most of us grew up collecting it, so the nostalgia that comes with that.

2. The set is different enough than the original. With parallel and such, and being chrome. If UD did a straight up boring reprint set, it likely wouldn’t do as well.

3. It combined scarcity with 92MM in a way we haven’t seen before (ok besides the MM16 buybacks). There was no scarcity in the original 92 set, as awesome as it was. This provides a different way to hunt/chase this art Jusko did.

One could ask why someone would pay $50k or a $100k for a card stamped 1 of 1. It’s not that different of a question of why people pay $100k for a 1952 Topps Mantle (which is organic scarcity vs manufacturer). Even in that case it’s $100 for a piece of cardboard. A major reason why people pay these amounts is simply because the card is worth it…they know others will pay that much or similar amounts. That doesn’t change with manufactured scarcity.

I’d be skeptical of the overall prospects of manufactured scarcity and the ocean of parallels in the long term. Talking more like random /99, /50, /25 cards etc from all these sets like Metal, Ultra, Flair year after year etc. But if you have a unique, special type of set- like this 92MM chrome set- I’m more bullish on the outcome. A major factor will be if it stays the only 92MM chrome set/callback set. If somehow topps comes out with yet another one- which I would not want- I would be less bullish. And we have already seen Topps use 1990 Impel MU art in chrome- they used the Ultron art. So I’m a little wary of that, but if this remains the only 92MM shiny set, I see demand being solid even long term.

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

All valid points regarding manufactured scarcity. I think the reprint nature of this set isn’t inherently a bad thing for its demand/market. I think it actually helps it, for a few reasons-

1. The art is iconic. A lot of other newer sets like FU Wolverine, Flair etc, may have nice new art…but it really hasnt become iconic in the way the 92MM set which basically transcended the hobby, and most of us grew up collecting it, so the nostalgia that comes with that.

2. The set is different enough than the original. With parallel and such, and being chrome. If UD did a straight up boring reprint set, it likely wouldn’t do as well.

3. It combined scarcity with 92MM in a way we haven’t seen before (ok besides the MM16 buybacks). There was no scarcity in the original 92 set, as awesome as it was. This provides a different way to hunt/chase this art Jusko did.

One could ask why someone would pay $50k or a $100k for a card stamped 1 of 1. It’s not that different of a question of why people pay $100k for a 1952 Topps Mantle (which is organic scarcity vs manufacturer). Even in that case it’s $100 for a piece of cardboard. A major reason why people pay these amounts is simply because the card is worth it…they know others will pay that much or similar amounts. That doesn’t change with manufactured scarcity.

I’d be skeptical of the overall prospects of manufactured scarcity and the ocean of parallels in the long term. Talking more like random /99, /50, /25 cards etc from all these sets like Metal, Ultra, Flair year after year etc. But if you have a unique, special type of set- like this 92MM chrome set- I’m more bullish on the outcome. A major factor will be if it stays the only 92MM chrome set/callback set. If somehow topps comes out with yet another one- which I would not want- I would be less bullish. And we have already seen Topps use 1990 Impel MU art in chrome- they used the Ultron art. So I’m a little wary of that, but if this remains the only 92MM shiny set, I see demand being solid even long term.

I agree with this, and would add a caveat. I would LOVE to see the 1992 and 1993 marvel universe sets done in chrome. A one and done like MM Platinum 92 of course! To see those sets in chrome, and with new inserts/variations would be almost as awesome as MM 92 platinum.

[finfangfan]

It will be interesting if/when we see the first Jusko art Topps card and if it will be new art or something already published in a UD card.

I could see Topps doing something like commissioning Jusko to do a 10 card subset of new art for a Topps release. Call it something like Marvel Masterworks… yeah that will work!

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

It will be interesting if/when we see the first Jusko art Topps card and if it will be new art or something already published in a UD card.

I could see Topps doing something like commissioning Jusko to do a 10 card subset of new art for a Topps release. Call it something like Marvel Masterworks… yeah that will work!

That’s what upper deck did for 2016 MM. was all new Jusko art. I wonder if they would do like you are saying, except make it more like 93 MM where they do an artist mix.

[finfangfan]

I think it would take forever for Jusko to do a full set again, so a jam set like you are describing where multiple artists do original art is probably the more likely scenario. Would be fun to see a 100 card base set with 10 artists tackling the same “top 10” Marvel characters.

[DynaEtch]

Oh heck yea…I’d be all for Jusko in anything new, be it Topps or even UD’s DC Masterpieces…I don’t see it happening, but a guy can wish.

Id be all for a revisit to other 90s Marvel sets but in chrome by Topps- but you said it- just no repeats, including this one. The worst is if the content starts getting diluted. It’s not out of the question Topps could do a “Sapphire 92 Marvel Universe” or something…they basically did just that with Star Wars with the sapphire sets rehashing OG Topps SW sets.

[DynaEtch]

Another one down, with a COMC arrival today. Plexi 100/100.

[finfangfan]

That’s a cool set!

[DynaEtch]

Thanks…comc sure does come in handy, don’t know what I’d do without it.

Actually didn’t realize it until now, but that comc shipment completed another set. Lenticular 100/100

[meandsharon11]

Very nice! Those are the 2 sets I like the most. Congrats on completing them both!

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Another one down, with a COMC arrival today. Plexi 100/100.

These would look amazing in a TAG slab sitting an led display stand.

[Spacemanspif]

Congrats Dyna! I really enjoy the Lenticulars, kind of underrated IMO because the 3D effect is hard to show in online pictures, but they add another element of nostalgia for me due to the gimmicky nature, like the 3D holograms of the 90s. I've been sort of collecting the Plexis of the main characters, but decided against doing a full set of Plexi or Metallurgy because I didn't want to deal with all those heavy cards lol

[Watchmee]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

the Shohei Ohtani 50th HR ball sold for over $4M, even though it's "just a ball", and he ended up hitting 4 more home runs that year. sometimes people all just agree that something is THE THING TO HAVE, and prices go crazy

Ball like that is TRUE "1 of 1" -- i.e. approach it with "THE THING TO HAVE" is 100% valid for me if you are Ohtani's fan.

I can agree also with price going v. high on something like his most expensive card bcs also has his autograph and logo patch from uniform:

"The most expensive Shohei Ohtani card sold publicly is the 2024 Topps Dynasty Black Logoman 1/1 card, which fetched $1,067,500 at Heritage Auctions on March 30, 2025. This one-of-a-kind card, part of the Topps 50-50: Shohei Ohtani set, features an on-card autograph and the MLB logo patch from the pants Ohtani wore during his historic 50th home run and 50th stolen base game in September 2024.
^^^ research by Grok
"

However, when the only "original art" is a new background then the 1 of 1 is just a gimmick and personally I would prefer to pick a parallel where the background enhances the great original artwork of Joe Jusko.

Just my $0.02

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Congrats Dyna! I really enjoy the Lenticulars, kind of underrated IMO because the 3D effect is hard to show in online pictures, but they add another element of nostalgia for me due to the gimmicky nature, like the 3D holograms of the 90s. I've been sort of collecting the Plexis of the main characters, but decided against doing a full set of Plexi or Metallurgy because I didn't want to deal with all those heavy cards lol

Fair point about heaviness. The lenticulars are definitely cool, and I like that they are for the most part pretty affordable…one of the more doable sets imo. I would say they and the holofoils are some of the more creative parallels in 92 Plat. Now I just gotta ask myself how many times I’m gonna collect this same darn 100 card 92MM set haha…between all the parallel sets.

Originally Posted by meandsharon11

These would look amazing in a TAG slab sitting an led display stand.

That would be a much better way than I’m currently storing the set…in a 2-row shoebox. Still debating storage/display options with some of these parallel sets. The lenticulars for example I have in a binder. I was loosely playing around with the idea of grading the whole Plexi set…if for no other reason the storage but also because apparently they grade well being slabs of plastic without much going on with the corners. They can be off-center still. But still I bet they grade a lot higher than regular cards like PMGs.

[DynaEtch]

Also the Plexis are kinda novel in that you can have the reverse image of the 92MM art just by turning it around. Kinda interesting feature. As may have noticed…pic of the above set is from the back. So Scarlet witch facing right, etc.

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Also the Plexis are kinda novel in that you can have the reverse image of the 92MM art just by turning it around. Kinda interesting feature. As may have noticed…pic of the above set is from the back. So Scarlet witch facing right, etc.

Here is an idea of what the cards would look like. Even in a 1 touch would still look nice!

[meandsharon11]

If you don’t mind me asking; how do you display your collection?