✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Garrison8

Not feeling great about todays matchup vs. Padres. Worried a bad pitching performance might kill the crazy momentum heading into ASB. If the MVP is already baked into prices, 62 and playoffs are the only things that can positively affect prices. Maybe a no-hitter during the year could too. Debating whether to sell high.

sounds like you need the money and it might be best to sell

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

sounds like you need the money and it might be best to sell

Exactly what I was thinking. If you can't enjoy what is going right now without being worried about profitz, gtfo.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by Garrison8

Not feeling great about todays matchup vs. Padres. Worried a bad pitching performance might kill the crazy momentum heading into ASB. If the MVP is already baked into prices, 62 and playoffs are the only things that can positively affect prices. Maybe a no-hitter during the year could too. Debating whether to sell high.

This post reeks of desperation. There is so much upside for O way beyond winning mvp.

[Rage]

Never bad to sell at the peak....especially for less rare cards

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Exactly what I was thinking. If you can't enjoy what is going right now without being worried about profitz, gtfo.

When the first thing you think about is the money, it likely is time to sell because if there is a slump, and they happen, you will complain about not selling. True blue you are absolutely correct. He sounds like he needs the money more than enjoying the cards. Put the lot up for a fair price and it will sell, but my question is, unless you are pocketing the money for life stuff, who else can you roll the money into that a few year down the line the prices will probably be higher?

[yoyosh]

Are we at the point where I should be grading #bass Ohtani stuff like...Chronicles? Diamond Kings?

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by yoyosh

Are we at the point where I should be grading #bass Ohtani stuff like...Chronicles? Diamond Kings?

absolutely. slow boat them and lock them away

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Tim

This post reeks of desperation. There is so much upside for O way beyond winning mvp.

Upside in prices from right now? No there isn't. If he just wins MVP and falls short of 60 HRs, prices will be solidly lower when he actually wins the MVP than right now. Anyone that experienced 2021 knows this, for those of you that are new, it will be a lesson

This is absolutely the best time to sell if you were thinking about it.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Upside in prices from right now? No there isn't. If he just wins MVP and falls short of 60 HRs, prices will be lower when he actually wins the MVP than right now. Anyone that experienced 2021 knows this, for those of you that are new, it will be a lesson



This is absolutely the best time to sell if you were thinking about it.

The only scenarios where the current peak price precedent doesn't hold true:

1) Angels make playoffs and Ohtani throws a game for 7.0 IP, 12Ks while hitting a homer

2) Angels pull the unthinkable and trade Ohtani to a big market team before the deadline (doubtful)

3) Ohtani hits 60+ home runs (would take another June-like month)

4) Ohtani wins the MVP AND Cy Young (bit of a longshot but not improbable)

That said, you should never stop looking for high-end rare. Market up, market down, market flat, those suckers are not easy to find and should be scooped when price is comprehensible.

And by peak price, I'm talking this season.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Upside in prices from right now? No there isn't. If he just wins MVP and falls short of 60 HRs, prices will be solidly lower when he actually wins the MVP than right now. Anyone that experienced 2021 knows this, for those of you that are new, it will be a lesson

This is absolutely the best time to sell if you were thinking about it.

You think ohtani prices will be less in 3 years than what they are today?

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

The only scenario where the current peak price precedent doesn't hold true:

1) Angels make playoffs and Ohtani throws a game for 7.0 IP, 12Ks while hitting a homer

2) Angels pull the unthinkable and trade Ohtani to a big market team before the deadline (doubtful)

3) Ohtani hits 60+ home runs (would take another June-like month)

4) Ohtani wins the MVP AND Cy Young (bit of a longshot but not improbable)

That said, you should never stop looking for high-end rare. Market up, market down, market flat, those suckers are not easy to find and should be scooped when price is comprehensible.

100%.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Tim

You think ohtani prices will be less in 3 years than what they are today?

No, they'll be less in 3 months. And they'll be markedly less in 1 month. Why would you ever buy now when someone is giving you a discount for waiting a month? I started buying Ohtani 4 years ago and I haven't sold a single card of his and I don't plan to now. That doesn't change the price cycle where you can say with with certainty barring a few very unlikely scenarios, that we are at peak within the next week leading up to the All-Star break. I've got my eye on a few cards but I'm personally waiting for the offseason.

Disclaimer is always if you are looking for some super unique card that you might see once every few months, you probably don't care what price you have to pay

[Tim]

Originally Posted by BBases31

No, they'll be less in 3 months. And they'll be markedly less in 1 month. Why would you ever buy now when someone is giving you a discount for waiting a month? I started buying Ohtani 4 years ago and I haven't sold a single card of his and I don't plan to now. That doesn't change the price cycle where you can say with with certainty barring a few very unlikely scenarios, that we are at peak within the next week leading up to the All-Star break. I've got my eye on a few cards but I'm personally waiting for the offseason.

Disclaimer is always if you are looking for some super unique card that you might see once every few months, you probably don't care what price you have to pay

Yeah ok. I was talking about upside. Not sure why you have a 3 month or 1 month time limit on that word.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Tim

Yeah ok. I was talking about upside. Not sure why you have a 3 month or 1 month time limit on that word.

Because the conversation and the post you were replying to was talking about the near future not year 2036

[Tim]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Because the conversation and the post you were replying to was talking about the near future not year 2036

I consider 3 years the near future.. not sure where you are coming up with 2036. My point was why sell today when his cards will only be going up down the road? I couldn't care less if he's up today, down in 3 months, up in 6 months, etc. The only thing I care about is 2 steps forward 1 step back.

If you want to sell now, rebuy in 3 months, sell in 6, etc. great. But that's not for me as an ohtani collector. Plus I do think there's some "risk" he could go higher.

[Trueblue]

Happy 4th!!

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Tim

I consider 3 years the near future.. not sure where you are coming up with 2036. My point was why sell today when his cards will only be going up down the road? I couldn't care less if he's up today, down in 3 months, up in 6 months, etc. The only thing I care about is 2 steps forward 1 step back.

You were responding to a guy that was wondering if it's the right time to sell. It is. I don't care what your collecting plan is. That guy and a few others were talking about selling now and whether this might be the peak. Obviously that conversation has nothing to do with someone who doesn't want to sell their cards

[Tim]

Originally Posted by BBases31

You were responding to a guy that was wondering if it's the right time to sell. It is. I don't care what your collecting plan is. That guy and a few others were talking about selling now and whether this might be the peak. Obviously that conversation has nothing to do with someone who doesn't want to sell their cards

Will be real interesting to see prices in the next few days, weeks, months, and years.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Tim

I consider 3 years the near future.. not sure where you are coming up with 2036. My point was why sell today when his cards will only be going up down the road? I couldn't care less if he's up today, down in 3 months, up in 6 months, etc. The only thing I care about is 2 steps forward 1 step back.

If you want to sell now, rebuy in 3 months, sell in 6, etc. great. But that's not for me as an ohtani collector. Plus I do think there's some "risk" he could go higher.

Everyone collects differently. I personally have 1) A section of cards that are off limits 2) A section that is PC but I have multiples of 3) Stuff that I like but will sell for the right price 4) Random stuff I bought in 2018 that I keep finding - base, inserts, etc.

If selling something in 2-4 allows me to buy a card that fits into section 1) I am going to do it. If that means selling when prices seem high and waiting on the sidelines for something to appear, I will do that. This is how I acquired two sterling autos in one week.

Some people track prices for profit, others to elevate their PCs.

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Happy 4th!!

Beautiful card. They knocked it out of the park with the design that year.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Tim

Will be real interesting to see prices in the next few days, weeks, months, and years.

Aren't you lucky you have the living crystal ball, BBases, in your presence. Answers: unclear, down, down, up

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Everyone collects differently. I personally have 1) A section of cards that are off limits 2) A section that is PC but I have multiples of 3) Stuff that I like but will sell for the right price 4) Random stuff I bought in 2018 that I keep finding - base, inserts, etc.

If selling something in 2-4 allows me to buy a card that fits into section 1) I am going to do it. If that means selling when prices seem high and waiting on the sidelines for something to appear, I will do that. This is how I acquired two sterling autos in one week.

Some people track prices for profit, others to elevate their PCs.

Well said. I usually sell to upgrade my PC. IMO now is a great time to sell and in a few months time it will be a better time to buy.

[Vdm2018]

Exciting about the matchup today. Very tough and everyone thinking padres will win. If Shohei Ohtani take them down, that will make people rethink twice about him. Otherwise, I’m pretty sure he will have at least a decent day.

[Trueblue]

Trout being out for likely the season does not provide a great lineup situation for sho. Especially with renfroe cooling off..

[Vdm2018]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Trout being out for likely the season does not provide a great lineup situation for sho. Especially with renfroe cooling off..

Urghh That may be true. Just found out about Mike Trout


Gonna be a walking season for Ohtani goin forth. Even Blake Snell didn’t challenge him