Skybox 2024 1992 MM Platinum

[meandsharon11]

Namor super now up on eBay

[DynaEtch]

Made an offer on the Namor just for kicks…somewhat lowball and wasn’t expecting anything. Looks like it sold…130pt isn’t generating the amount. I thought the 1500 obo was reasonable. I’d put Namor above a total common…not really mid tier or higher, but above a common. I consider like Mojo, Night Thrasher, Sleepwalker, Northstar, Quasar, Major Victory etc as common.

I saw the Surfer green sold. Honestly the sale price seemed not too bad, was quite a bit under asking. I guess it makes sense with the condition issue….but that’s a beautiful card. That Black Cat green pickup for 1300 is a good deal imo. I think greens are kinda on the rise lately from what I’m seeing. Can’t go wrong with a top 5-7 character.

I saw a Spidey reg gold seismic sold for 800 earlier today…sigh. I would have been over that. Just didn’t see it….currently looking for one….

[DynaEtch]

I wanted to revisit the question of the purple variants in blasters. Anyone have more data to share with it…anyone opening more blaster boxes or cases?

Early on there was speculation it was around 1 per 20 box case. I am fairly certain that is definitely not true. Using some preliminary data from eBay listings, the speculation the turned to being around maybe 1:1.5 cases or 1:2 cases (1 in 30-40 boxes). Does that still sound like a reasonable estimate? What are people noticing?

I randomly buy blaster boxes here and there in small bunches, like 3 boxes. I *never* pull a purple variant basically.

Of course if I had a nickel for every time someone on Reddit posts “bought a box or two…first time opening, is this good?”, along with a picture of a purple crystal variant….Id be a rich man. I get that’s post bias though, and the good hits are more likely to be posted.

What are thoughts on the rarity of the purple variants? Is it even worth the money and effort trying to pull these from blasters?

[meandsharon11]

Are they only in retail blasters? If so I would think 1 per case, but maybe it’s a true average, and they don’t actually seed the cases.

Have you heard of any cases getting 2?

[Ehawk89]

I haven't taken the plunge of grading anything from this set yet. Who's graded with both CGC and PSA? Either seem more forgiving than the other when it comes to lines on the red prisms or centering when it comes the blue traxx cover variants?

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by meandsharon11

Are they only in retail blasters? If so I would think 1 per case, but maybe it’s a true average, and they don’t actually seed the cases.

Have you heard of any cases getting 2?

Yep only in retail blasters. Basically the only thing this really worth to pull from a blaster.

There is one single documented example I know of a case having 2. I really don’t think it’s only 1 per case tho…too many people I’ve talked to said they opened multiple cases (like 2-5) and pulled just 1. Also if they were 1 per case that would only be 100*25*20 = 50k blaster boxes, which seems on the low side for blaster (there are about 175k hobby boxes in comparison). I won’t totally count out 1 per case, but I do think it’s harder. My personal case data: opened 4 full cases…pulled 2

[finfangfan]

Originally Posted by Ehawk89

I haven't taken the plunge of grading anything from this set yet. Who's graded with both CGC and PSA? Either seem more forgiving than the other when it comes to lines on the red prisms or centering when it comes the blue traxx cover variants?

Generally, I think you would be better off to PSA if you plan on selling sometime in the future. CGC really doesn’t have the same secondary interest as PSA. They do assign grades to plates though, so that is something that PSA doesn’t offer (they just label as authentic).

Here is a link of all graded items in the set (including sold out) that have passed through COMC … if you want to research examples of some grades received. https://www.comc.com/Cards,=2024+mar...892,ot,aGraded

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I saw the Surfer green sold. Honestly the sale price seemed not too bad, was quite a bit under asking. I guess it makes sense with the condition issue….but that’s a beautiful card. That Black Cat green pickup for 1300 is a good deal imo. I think greens are kinda on the rise lately from what I’m seeing. Can’t go wrong with a top 5-7 character.

I'm surprised the seller accepted my offer. It was much lower than the listed price, but that goes to show that we should always make our best offer, no matter how overpriced the original listed price is. Now, I have a mini-rainbow of silver surfer pmg, to go along with my mini rainbow of shadowcat pmg:

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By the way, these cards just came in a few days ago. Bought the Shadowcat pmg blue on facebook group and the seller throws in a free Mr. Fantastic pmg blue, I was surprised and greatful:

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[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

I'm surprised the seller accepted my offer. It was much lower than the listed price, but that goes to show that we should always make our best offer, no matter how overpriced the original listed price is. Now, I have a mini-rainbow of silver surfer pmg, to go along with my mini rainbow of shadowcat pmg:

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By the way, these cards just came in a few days ago. Bought the Shadowcat pmg blue on facebook group and the seller throws in a free Mr. Fantastic pmg blue, I was surprised and greatful:

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Congrats, massive pickup with the Surfer! I was wondering if maybe it was your offer. That card jumped out the first moment I saw it on eBay….stunning card.

Totally agree…don’t let asking prices deter you. Send your best offer and if there’s an autodecline, fine, but not much really to lose in trying. To give an extreme example…a seller once had a marvel error card at some crazy price, like $8999 (as you often see with errors sometimes). I offered $1k, and seller accepted ($1k is still $1k..nice chunk of change for anyone). And I still think I overpaid at $1k but was happy to get it for the collection.

Seems fitting that Surfer went to you with those awesome PMGs…what a gesture from that seller with the Mr Fantastic blue! Some really nice people in this hobby.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Ehawk89

I haven't taken the plunge of grading anything from this set yet. Who's graded with both CGC and PSA? Either seem more forgiving than the other when it comes to lines on the red prisms or centering when it comes the blue traxx cover variants?

I’ve done both. First off…these cards are very grading-friendly since they are chrome and don’t suffer damage too easily like corner damage. Most will come back 9s and 10s outside the base and PMGs (I wouldn’t bother submitting base, since those have edge fraying issues. Stick to parallel chrome which are typically great shape like blue traxxx etc). PMGs, which are not chrome, often have conditon issues and might come back sub-9.

There is talk that PSA in general has tightened up with giving out 10s. But still very possible to gem these…and many seem to be in either psa 9 or 10. For resale, PSA gives the largest premiums when in 10. CGG seems very grading friendly…I just submitted that batch above of gold seismics etc and got like 6 10s and 2 9.5s for 8 cards. I do like CGC in that you can also get that 10-Pristine grade which stands out. But for resale value..PSA is king.

I will say I’m having a weird wait time issue with CGC right now…I personally submitted a huge lot of purple variants (not through COMC)…arrived back in April . Still not one update past “received”. Starting to really wonder what’s going on with that.

[Spacemanspif]

FWIW, the "one per blaster" came from you Dyna, because you were calling them case hits from the jump and I think we debated that point since it was never called a case hit and the odds weren't officially published.

My total ended up being only 1 variant in 7.5 cases. I just talked to someone I bought a ton of parallels from and they said they pulled 2 in 5 cases. So even 1 per 2 cases seems like it might be optimistic

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

FWIW, the "one per blaster" came from you Dyna, because you were calling them case hits from the jump and I think we debated that point since it was never called a case hit and the odds weren't officially published.

My total ended up being only 1 variant in 7.5 cases. I just talked to someone I bought a ton of parallels from and they said they pulled 2 in 5 cases. So even 1 per 2 cases seems like it might be optimistic

Yea unfortunately that was based on preliminary data…if I recall, multiple people chimed in early who broke a blaster case and said they hit a purple variant. Someone on whatnot even hit 2 in one case. But nothing im seeing since then is really pointing to anything near 1:case (besides the crazy hit ratio Reddit seems to have..although I think that’s post bias).

I dunno if there is really a way to figure this out. Not many if any blaster case breaks being posted online to observe…it’s all hobby breaks seems like. 1:2 cases *might* be in the ballpark. Or even 1:3 cases. I am going off not much more than speculation. The problem with one datapoint like mine or yours..there’s always the chance it was a bad run of luck.

[PurplesaurusRex]

I picked up a couple of boxes now that prices have come down. No PMGs, but I really like the Blue Traxx, Clear Cut and Plexi cards. Don't care for the canvas/leather/paper cards. I wonder what the odds are of hitting a PMG in 1 box. Has anyone taken a stab at figuring out the print run? I assume it's pretty high.

[Xiarmadillo]

Originally Posted by PurplesaurusRex

I picked up a couple of boxes now that prices have come down. No PMGs, but I really like the Blue Traxx, Clear Cut and Plexi cards. Don't care for the canvas/leather/paper cards. I wonder what the odds are of hitting a PMG in 1 box. Has anyone taken a stab at figuring out the print run? I assume it's pretty high.

odds of hitting ANY PMG in 1 box is around 10%

[DynaEtch]

Yea that sounds about right. Most case breaks of 18 boxes seem to have around 2, sometimes 1. Hobby box print run was estimated to be 175k, which checks out with that.

The most astounding stat to me is the chances of getting any 1/1 (gold treasures, gold treas variant, gold pmg) is a staggering 1:30 cases.

[PurplesaurusRex]

Thanks guys. I'm tempted to buy more boxes. Unfortunately a lot of PMGs in this set look unfinished. I think they should've done their best to outline the character and cut the background out completely.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by PurplesaurusRex

Thanks guys. I'm tempted to buy more boxes. Unfortunately a lot of PMGs in this set look unfinished. I think they should've done their best to outline the character and cut the background out completely.

It was a shoddy job on UD’s part for sure…not all of them of course- several are unaffected, and they look magnificent- but with plenty of them.

My two cents on the white border issues…ugly to see at first, but I think the hobby/market has kind of got used to them and they just look at, for example, a Cyclops PMG as a Cyclops PMG regardless (it does have white border issues…but you won’t find it cheap because of that).

Also helps some of the top characters like Spidey, Wolverine, Venom, and Surfer are mostly unaffected by this issue.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by PurplesaurusRex

Thanks guys. I'm tempted to buy more boxes. Unfortunately a lot of PMGs in this set look unfinished. I think they should've done their best to outline the character and cut the background out completely.

The white shades do look bad, especially the ones with lots of those errors, but I don't think it would be wise to cut out all the backgrounds in the cards, cause those backgrounds are what made this pmg set different and better than the other pmg sets (the ones that were done correctly), you can see the etchings of the background through the pmg colors, as oppose to just a solid color background in other sets.


I just received my Silver Surfer PMG Green and now I have the mini-rainbow for this PMG set.

IMG_0154 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/144733631@N03/]

[DynaEtch]

Wow that’s a really great looking Surfer rainbow, well done!

Think I misinterpreted Purple’s post about PMGs, just assumed it was in reference to the white border issues that everyone talks about. I second the above opinion that having the backgrounds faintly visible behind the foil works nicely, I’d prefer that over a just a solid foil color background. You really see Surfer in space above- I like that.

[DynaEtch]

With a comc shipment that came today, finished two mini milestones I was working on.

Complete Pink Laser Variant /692 set 100/100



Complete Holofoil set 100/100




I chose not to discriminate off-center vs normal Holofoils (as we know tons of holofoils from comc are badly off-center). Some people only are going for normal ones….to me it didn’t matter. I would say about half my set is normal, half off-center. I’m not grading or anything, it’s just to have a set.

Anyone else working on a parallel set? I’m working on a few more ambitious ones than these, but we’ll see if they ever get done.

[meandsharon11]

My wife got me a hobby box for Father’s Day. No great #d inserts to mention, but I did get this wood insert. Figured it was a decent consolation since the odds are 1 in 6 boxes.

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

The white shades do look bad, especially the ones with lots of those errors, but I don't think it would be wise to cut out all the backgrounds in the cards, cause those backgrounds are what made this pmg set different and better than the other pmg sets (the ones that were done correctly), you can see the etchings of the background through the pmg colors, as oppose to just a solid color background in other sets.


I just received my Silver Surfer PMG Green and now I have the mini-rainbow for this PMG set.

IMG_0154 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/144733631@N03/]

This is amazing!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by meandsharon11

My wife got me a hobby box for Father’s Day. No great #d inserts to mention, but I did get this wood insert. Figured it was a decent consolation since the odds are 1 in 6 boxes.

Nice one! Storm is a top-5 art for me in this set. I think woods are underrated, certainly not easy hits

[PurplesaurusRex]

Oh you got the Surfer rainbow! I'd love to pull a Surfer PMG, especially the blue one. I think it's the best card in this set. I know the chances are slim, but a guy can dream haha.


I think the best PMGs from previous sets are the ones that look clean and not too cluttered. Just the character, a Metal logo and the "Precious Metal Gems" text at the top. But I know it's a challenge with Jusko art since he paints these beautiful backgrounds that are important part of the piece.

Originally Posted by Kobefan

The white shades do look bad, especially the ones with lots of those errors, but I don't think it would be wise to cut out all the backgrounds in the cards, cause those backgrounds are what made this pmg set different and better than the other pmg sets (the ones that were done correctly), you can see the etchings of the background through the pmg colors, as oppose to just a solid color background in other sets.


I just received my Silver Surfer PMG Green and now I have the mini-rainbow for this PMG set.

IMG_0154 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/144733631@N03/]

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by PurplesaurusRex

I'd love to pull a Surfer PMG, especially the blue one. I think it's the best card in this set. I know the chances are slim, but a guy can dream haha.

I think the best PMGs from previous sets are the ones that look clean and not too cluttered. Just the character, a Metal logo and the "Precious Metal Gems" text at the top. But I know it's a challenge with Jusko art since he paints these beautiful backgrounds that are important part of the piece.

I agree with these sentiments. That surfer rainbow looks great!