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[tke1600]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

VERY good news for Trump ...

2016 Florida Early Voting Final Results | Heavy.com

With the Latino surge, republicans looking good.

Trump is +200 to win FL right now on my app. I'm really starting to worry they no something we don't about how the Dems are going to make up the lost votes.

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

Simple question, if Hillary did nothing wrong or had nothing to hide why did she delete 33,000 emails after receiving a subpoena? If she would have simply cooperated with the investigation we would not be where we are today.

When did she receive the subpeona? When did she delete the e-mails? Did she personally delete them? How long do they need to be saved for? Who saves 33,000 e-mails? These are all serious questions. I do not know the timeline at all.

[JosieD]

I am very confused why anyone would allow a government offical to use a private server but this seems to be a repeated pattern. That would be like my work allowing me to use a private server when they know I am sending protected health information via e-mail. It just doesn't make any sense to me and seems like a huge oversight for years.

[JosieD]

August 2015 – Investigation continues; email recovery

On August 20, 2015, U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan stated that Hillary Clinton's actions of maintaining a private email server were in direct conflict with U.S. government policy. "We wouldn't be here today if this employee had followed government policy," he said, and ordered the State Department to work with the FBI to determine if any emails on the server during her tenure as Secretary of State could be recovered.[120][121][122] Platte River Networks, the Denver-based firm that managed the Clinton server since 2013, said it had no knowledge of the server being wiped, and indicated that the emails that Clinton has said were deleted could likely be recovered. "Platte River has no knowledge of the server being wiped," company spokesman Andy Boian told the Washington Post. "All the information we have is that the server wasn't wiped."[123] When asked by the Washington Post, the Clinton campaign declined to comment.[123]

In September 2015, FBI investigators were engaged in sorting messages recovered from the server.[124] In November 2015, the FBI expanded its inquiry to examine whether Clinton or her aides jeopardized national security secrets, and if so, who should be held responsible.[125][126]

Conflicting media sources sized the FBI investigation from 12[127] to 30 agents[128] as of March 2016.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Trump is +200 to win FL right now on my app. I'm really starting to worry they no something we don't about how the Dems are going to make up the lost votes.

Media a blaze right now because the Latino vote came out in full force this year (as early voting shows) BUT Latino + Black vote still does not equal what it did in 2012. The white vote in this county will be GREATER than it was in 2012 ... and it's the very reason why Trump has a shot. If the white vote were the same as it was last election, this would be dead and gone for the Donald.

Record turnout means a Trump victory this year, it's that simple. If states that saw increased early vote totals see similar margins on Nov 8th vote totals, this race is republican all the way. But will this happen? Won't know until tomorrow.

BUT, we'll know right away. Indiana polls close at 6pm (most of 'em) and Donald Trump has a polling advantage of about 11-12 points. By 7pm, if you find that number to be lower, he's gonna get crushed. However, if that number holds at 12 or is greater after a substantial amount of precincts report, hold onto your hats.

[IndySportsCards]

Podesta, Pizza and Pedos

[natbornkiller]

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Media a blaze right now because the Latino vote came out in full force this year (as early voting shows) BUT Latino + Black vote still does not equal what it did in 2012. The white vote in this county will be GREATER than it was in 2012 ... and it's the very reason why Trump has a shot. If the white vote were the same as it was last election, this would be dead and gone for the Donald.

Record turnout means a Trump victory this year, it's that simple. If states that saw increased early vote totals see similar margins on Nov 8th vote totals, this race is republican all the way. But will this happen? Won't know until tomorrow.

BUT, we'll know right away. Indiana polls close at 6pm (most of 'em) and Donald Trump has a polling advantage of about 11-12 points. By 7pm, if you find that number to be lower, he's gonna get crushed. However, if that number holds at 12 or is greater after a substantial amount of precincts report, hold onto your hats.

People tend to forget about Bernie supporters. 1/3 have said they will not vote for Clinton. That is 4.4 million based on the primaries. Not to mention the African American vote is down also.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Media a blaze right now because the Latino vote came out in full force this year (as early voting shows) BUT Latino + Black vote still does not equal what it did in 2012. The white vote in this county will be GREATER than it was in 2012 ... and it's the very reason why Trump has a shot. If the white vote were the same as it was last election, this would be dead and gone for the Donald.

Record turnout means a Trump victory this year, it's that simple. If states that saw increased early vote totals see similar margins on Nov 8th vote totals, this race is republican all the way. But will this happen? Won't know until tomorrow.

BUT, we'll know right away. Indiana polls close at 6pm (most of 'em) and Donald Trump has a polling advantage of about 11-12 points. By 7pm, if you find that number to be lower, he's gonna get crushed. However, if that number holds at 12 or is greater after a substantial amount of precincts report, hold onto your hats.

I just don't understand Trump +200 to win FL, when even 538 has it leaning republican right now that include polls like ABC/NBC that were overskewed way in favor of Dems all year compared to the turnout so far.

I guess I'm all in for betting the record turnouts based on the enthusiasm for Trump and the primary turnout for the republicans this year.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

People tend to forget about Bernie supporters. 1/3 have said they will not vote for Clinton. That is 4.4 million based on the primaries. Not to mention the African American vote is down also.

That's baloney. Clinton will win 90% of the democratic vote, at the very minimum. Every politician has shown you why ... eventually, everyone gives into the party head.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

That's baloney. Clinton will win 90% of the democratic vote, at the very minimum. Every politician has shown you why ... eventually, everyone gives into the party head.

Guess we will find out tomorrow.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tke1600

I just don't understand Trump +200 to win FL, when even 538 has it leaning republican right now that include polls like ABC/NBC that were overskewed way in favor of Dems all year compared to the turnout so far.

I guess I'm all in for betting the record turnouts based on the enthusiasm for Trump and the primary turnout for the republicans this year.

It's a good line, I'd certainly bet it. +200 is a gift.

But it still doesn't mean Trump will win. 8.5M votes last year in Florida, if 9.25M or more vote this year, it's a Red state. 6.4M early votes already cast ... will 3M people show up tomorrow?

[Anderdale]

I'm voting for trump so that skrelli guy will release the wu tang album

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

That's baloney. Clinton will win 90% of the democratic vote, at the very minimum. Every politician has shown you why ... eventually, everyone gives into the party head.

We will see. Even if that number drops to 85% or the Bernie people just stay at home and don't vote, she will be toast.

[sjorgen5]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

That's baloney. Clinton will win 90% of the democratic vote, at the very minimum. Every politician has shown you why ... eventually, everyone gives into the party head.

For the vast majority, agreed. We saw Republicans jump ship late in the game in their support for Trump/disapproving of his actions/behaviors, only to then say they will still vote for the (R) ticket.

Also, Hillary could lose every swing state but Ohio and still win the election.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's a good line, I'd certainly bet it. +200 is a gift.

But it still doesn't mean Trump will win. 8.5M votes last year in Florida, if 9.25M or more vote this year, it's a Red state. 6.4M early votes already cast ... will 3M people show up tomorrow?

Everyone keeps saying that more show up on actual election day than in early voting. It would mean that even if just 50% show up from EV, FL gets to 9M easy.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Everyone keeps saying that more show up on actual election day than in early voting. It would mean that even if just 50% show up from EV, FL gets to 9M easy.

Not possible in FL this year. So many voted early, there just isn't enough left in the population to vote tomorrow. If even half show up, it's good news for Republicans.

[mnvikingstwins]

So what does Wikileaks have left in the tank for today? Hopefully the McCann stuff continues to grow, looks like 2 more from her campaign are also close matches to the suspect sketches

[NeedChapmans]

Get your tissues folks ... how can you not vote for this guy?!

[Athey49]

So an honest question to those voting for either Trump or Hillary: if the one you vote for doesn't win, are you going to hope the president elect does a good job? Or does your raging hard-on over your candidate prevent you from wishing success upon the new president?

Talked to my brother the other day (voting Trump) and he said if Hillary wins he hopes she runs the country into the ground to prove she wasn't worthy. Couldn't believe he sad that. Goes both ways obviously; my neighbor almost sounds excited and hopeful if Trump wins and fails, just so she can rub it in people's faces.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who wishes the next president, regardless of the party, is always going to be the next great one.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Athey49

So an honest question to those voting for either Trump or Hillary: if the one you vote for doesn't win, are you going to hope the president elect does a good job? Or does your raging hard-on over your candidate prevent you from wishing success upon the new president?

Talked to my brother the other day (voting Trump) and he said if Hillary wins he hopes she runs the country into the ground to prove she wasn't worthy. Couldn't believe he sad that. Goes both ways obviously; my neighbor almost sounds excited and hopeful if Trump wins and fails, just so she can rub it in people's faces.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who wishes the next president, regardless of the party, is always going to be the next great one.

Honestly, if Clinton wins, I simply go back to my pre-election feelings toward government. Eh. (vs. actually being interested in politics for the next four years). Higher health-care premiums, more taxes overall ... and less money to blow on Mike Zunino! Maybe she's doing me a favor.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by Athey49

So an honest question to those voting for either Trump or Hillary: if the one you vote for doesn't win, are you going to hope the president elect does a good job? Or does your raging hard-on over your candidate prevent you from wishing success upon the new president?

Talked to my brother the other day (voting Trump) and he said if Hillary wins he hopes she runs the country into the ground to prove she wasn't worthy. Couldn't believe he sad that. Goes both ways obviously; my neighbor almost sounds excited and hopeful if Trump wins and fails, just so she can rub it in people's faces.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who wishes the next president, regardless of the party, is always going to be the next great one.

I would want Hillary to do as best as she could, but would 100% expect her just to fill her cabinet with donors and work to approve things for special interests, etc.

[Devi8or]

Originally Posted by Athey49

So an honest question to those voting for either Trump or Hillary: if the one you vote for doesn't win, are you going to hope the president elect does a good job? Or does your raging hard-on over your candidate prevent you from wishing success upon the new president?

Talked to my brother the other day (voting Trump) and he said if Hillary wins he hopes she runs the country into the ground to prove she wasn't worthy. Couldn't believe he sad that. Goes both ways obviously; my neighbor almost sounds excited and hopeful if Trump wins and fails, just so she can rub it in people's faces.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who wishes the next president, regardless of the party, is always going to be the next great one.

pretty sure you just described Congress....sad but true, they're gonna try to tank the opposition with no regard to the good of the American people

[pac213up]

Final Guess

Clinton - 278
Trump - 260

Only way I see Trump winning is with a win in PA. Otherwise the Clinton firewall looks like it will hold with the possibility on NV replacing NH.

[Anderdale]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Get your tissues folks ... how can you not vote for this guy?!

That was great! When was it posted? Surprised it didn't go viral