Paul Skenes’ Debut Patch Auto has been pulled

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by bub838

Goddamnit you beat me to it while I was looking for a picture.

Lol I started to look for one but then had second thoughts about posting it. Ended up going with the easier (lazier) option.

[JWBlue]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Instead of jumping to conspiracy theories, wouldn't it make more sense to just assume if they aren't releasing that to protect their identity, it more likely just means they bought it locally?

Topps/Fanatics are not releasing the location the box was sold to protect the identity of the child?

One word answer. Yes or no?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Topps/Fanatics are not releasing the location the box was sold to protect the identity of the child?



One word answer. Yes or no?

Fanatics likely doesn't know that. The family apparently isn't releasing that info.

I love how you try to control the information by demanding a one word answer to a question that doesn't have a one word answer. Another example of bias shaping your questions.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Topps/Fanatics are not releasing the location the box was sold to protect the identity of the child?

One word answer. Yes or no?

No, I do not believe that Fanatics/Topps is withholding information because Fanatics/Topps decided they want to protect an identity

[Lonewolf]

This whole thing smells funny. After the Kris Bryant Bowman Auto BS many years ago, then the phantom Ginter Wood Minis, something nefarious going on wouldn't surprise me one bit. With all that said, the 11 year-old boy pulling the card story could be all true, and I could be Oprah Winfrey, lol.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

You may know him as Diddy.

LMAO...well played

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Fanatics likely doesn't know that. The family apparently isn't releasing that info.

I love how you try to control the information by demanding a one word answer to a question that doesn't have a one word answer. Another example of bias shaping your questions.

It’s just as likely fanatics does know and apparently doesn’t want the family releasing that info.

How many single-celled brain responses by anti conspirators do I need to deal with in this thread?



Did I do that right?

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Doesn’t Sean know the owner’s identity too? Does he also work for Fanatics now?

Sean wants to meet little Timmy and his brother little Jimmy.

But only alone.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

It’s just as likely fanatics does know and apparently doesn’t want the family releasing that info.

How many single-celled brain responses by anti conspirators do I need to deal with in this thread?



Did I do that right?

I CAUTION YOU:

Do not try to match wits with a parking ticket fixer.

[PuddleMonkey]

Why do I keep hearing about doctors and parking tickets in this thread?

[ThoseBackPages]

#ThanksTopps

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

I CAUTION YOU:

Do not try to match wits with a parking ticket fixer.

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Why do I keep hearing about doctors and parking tickets in this thread?

It has something to do with a lifetime aspiration to chase parked ambulances, apparently.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

It's still mind-blowing to me how hung up on the fact that the family didn't say where they bought the box. It's like you people are incapable of putting yourselves in people's shoes. If you pulled this card, your thought process has zero to do with "what info do I need to offer to prove I pulled the card." That's such an insane thought process for someone who just pulled the card to consider. Conspiracy theorists find it indispensable info. Those involved don't have any reason to think it's important in the slightest. It's amazing to me how clueless some of you are. They are trying to keep from being thrust into the public eye so they aren't sharing much with the media. Which is reasonable. And they likely aren't even aware of the ridiculous questions that a bunch of neck-beard detectives are asking. They are normal people acting like normal people would in this situation.

The reason why many on BO and social media want to know where the box was obtained from is because they want transparency from Topps and Fanatics on the distribution of highly valuable and heavily marketed product hits. They are skeptical of Topps' claims of fair distribution, and want some supporting evidence.

The question shouldn't be why Topps or the family should publicly reveal this bit of pertinent information. The question should be why not? At least give a general description of where it was purchased from -- a hobby shop, online dealer, etc. Revealing nothing makes Topps customers and outside observers suspicious of Topps and their claims.

Topps/Fanatics should care about their customers believing they have a fair chance at pulling a product hit. Being secretive on how this highly publicized card was obtained doesn't build trust with the public. It creates an environment of distrust, and promotes the creation of conspiracy theories to help fill the void of missing key information.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Fanatics likely doesn't know that. The family apparently isn't releasing that info.

And the question is, why?

What could possibly be so sensitive about the source of the box?

The official story is the parents bought a single box of '24 TCU for their kid as a Christmas present. They volunteered this personal information. Mentioning where they purchased the box from -- or at least a general description of the source -- would be appropriate.

Withholding that bit of key information creates more questions than answers.

[hermanotarjeta]

But but but, you must protect the children!

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

And the question is, why?

What could possibly be so sensitive about the source of the box?

The official story is the parents bought a single box of '24 TCU for their kid as a Christmas present. They volunteered this personal information. Mentioning where they purchased the box from -- or at least a general description of the source -- would be appropriate.

Withholding that bit of key information creates more questions than answers.

Here's a question for you. Everybody is just assuming the family told Fanatics where they bought the box. Do you have any proof that Fanatics was told? Why is the blame being put on Fanatics? Shouldn't the outrage be directed at the family.

Nobody who hits a big card owes you anything. It doesn't matter what the reason is. Protecting a child, just being a private person, simply not caring to say, refusing to say just to piss off some people on a card forum.

And whatever the reason is for why they want to stay anonymous, I can pretty much promise you that they don't care that some people on the internet are suspicious.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

The reason why many on BO and social media want to know where the box was obtained from is because they want transparency from Topps and Fanatics on the distribution of highly valuable and heavily marketed product hits. They are skeptical of Topps' claims of fair distribution, and want some supporting evidence.

Give me a percentage of the entire hobby that you think are screaming as much as you and hermano about needing to know where the box was purchased.

I'll give you mine, I think it's well under 5%.

[Seitas]

Regardless of what side of the argument you are on, this thread is clear evidence that we live in a ‘post truth’ world.

[NYRE2PECT]

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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

We’re humans, not emotionless androids like data.

Hold up -- presumably you're a Star Trek fan and therefore should know that Data got an emotion chip.

Even Spock exhibited emotion when his half-brother Sybok showed him the tragic moment of his birth.

[ObanMontecristo]

everyone who’s demanding to know the identity of the kid and his dad should reveal their own full names instead of hiding behind anonymous usernames.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Here's a question for you. Everybody is just assuming the family told Fanatics where they bought the box. Do you have any proof that Fanatics was told? Why is the blame being put on Fanatics? Shouldn't the outrage be directed at the family.

Nobody who hits a big card owes you anything. It doesn't matter what the reason is. Protecting a child, just being a private person, simply not caring to say, refusing to say just to piss off some people on a card forum.

And whatever the reason is for why they want to stay anonymous, I can pretty much promise you that they don't care that some people on the internet are suspicious.

I mean, they clearly provided many details to Fanatics on how the card was pulled. Omitting where the box was purchased from seems conspicuous. I would think it would only enhance the story if the public knew the box was purchased in a way that anyone could have. It would add to the excitement of the story, and give customers encouragement to chase the next big product hit.

[Seitas]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I mean, they clearly provided many details to Fanatics on how the card was pulled. Omitting where the box was purchased from seems conspicuous. I would think it would only enhance the story if the public knew the box was purchased in a way that anyone could have. It would add to the excitement of the story, and give customers encouragement to chase the next big product hit.

I’m glad you said this again because I don’t think we are certain how you feel about this. One question for you….do you have children?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Give me a percentage of the entire hobby that you think are screaming as much as you and hermano about needing to know where the box was purchased.

I'll give you mine, I think it's well under 5%.

I don't know about screaming, but I have to think a sizable percentage of Topps customers are skeptical of the official story. What reason has Topps/Fanatics given them to not be? The family wants to keep their identities secret, and where the box was obtained from hasn't been revealed. There's been a total lack of transparency from Fanatics on how the card was distributed, even though it was heavily marketed and publicized.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Seitas

I’m glad you said this again because I don’t think we are certain how you feel about this. One question for you….do you have children?

Please tell how in any way my post referred to revealing the identity of the child.

Saying the box was purchased from a local hobby shop or online dealer is somehow putting at risk the privacy of the child or the family?