**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!** - Page 474

ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 06:24 PM

#HobbyHARD

OPCB · 03-09-2021, 06:26 PM

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#HobbyHARD

lol, ok, took a second, I get it now, lol

FT35 · 03-09-2021, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

How much impact will the prospect market have on guys like Soto, Acuna, Tatis and Trout? People are seeing how the prospect market is going wild and will stop focusing on the established stars market (imo). Look at a guy like Michael Harris whose card prices double overnight, or guys like Erick Pena and Luis Matos who have gone from like $90 to $200 in a month. I feel that the hobby is filled with a new crowd that wants a quick payday. For this reason, I believe we will see a stall in most vets as they are seen as the boring blue chips of the market. I'm not saying they are not good buys, but I think the last untapped market is the prospect market and the gamblers from football/basketball are going to come flooding in trying to find the next Soto.

How many 2020 base prospect cards are selling for more than $100/each? A ton. A Soto home run won't double his prices, but apparently a Bobby Witt Jr. home run will send his prices soaring even though they are already high.

It swings all over the place now. NBA cards see heavy swings between ultra modern rookies and established stars. Not long ago we saw 2019 LeBron base Prizm PSA 10’s near $1,000. Then people drove up Jordan/Kobe/Shaq. Then people started swinging to Soto/Tatis—then Griffey, then back to Luka/Zion—Some football peppered in there. It’s all over the place with everything up and down but overall up.

I flipped through my mid-2000’s Bowman Chrome sets the other day and held a moment of silence for all the money lost stashing those prospects. Actually got excited to see Ian Kinsler—the biggest of a mere few names I recognized. Never again!

But I believe it’s the burn of the prospect game that drives people to the established stars eventually.

KhalDrogo · 03-09-2021, 06:27 PM

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Nice, do you have this information saved? Would love to review that.

Number to the left was the BA top 100 ranking at the time. I only did through May. These were true gem prices. Andujar was an outlier because he had very few 10 autos, and they came at a huge premium.

SGC300ier · 03-09-2021, 06:28 PM

Got this is the mail today. Seller says in description, no flaws that I can see.....

Hmmmmm....

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JoeAdam · 03-09-2021, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FT35

It swings all over the place now. NBA cards see heavy swings between ultra modern rookies and established stars. Not long ago we saw 2019 LeBron base Prizm PSA 10’s near $1,000. Then people drove up Jordan/Kobe/Shaq. Then people started swinging to Soto/Tatis—then Griffey, then back to Luka/Zion—Some football peppered in there. It’s all over the place with everything up and down but overall up.

I flipped through my mid-2000’s Bowman Chrome sets the other day and held a moment of silence for all the money lost stashing those prospects. Actually got excited to see Ian Kinsler—the biggest of a mere few names I recognized. Never again!

But I believe it’s the burn of the prospect game that drives people to the established stars eventually.

Unfortunately, very few prospects are worth holding long term. Which is why most people fail at it. You need to stay on top of it and dump the guys the moment it looks like they won’t make it. And then you have to decide whether to hold or sell while they’re hot for the ones that do make it. Personally, I find the challenge fun. But I’m awful at it.

wharfrat7624 · 03-09-2021, 06:32 PM

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This was the reason why I chased down the Gold over the Orange. I just don't like Orange at all. I think the Gold look amazing in hand...

Absolutely amazing!

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Snakeonia · 03-09-2021, 06:36 PM

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I am wondering if families take extended trips this summer that will take out of Card budgets?

Yeah they will also sell all the rolexes they bought, and stocks, and graded comics, and ammo and draw down on their savings. I know 4 people that flip in my town. (13k people) pre covid there was 3. Could Buy some disney and southwest as a hedge against a black swam soto price dip event.

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Snakeonia · 03-09-2021, 06:39 PM

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Soto was the 15th highest priced prospect BCA going into the 2018 season. Pretty good for someone who only played 32 games the year before due to injury.

Whichs means someone knew something very early. Would Like to meet that seer.

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KhalDrogo · 03-09-2021, 07:05 PM

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Whichs means someone knew something very early. Would Like to meet that seer.

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His name is Bill.

oddstuff · 03-09-2021, 07:11 PM

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Whichs means someone knew something very early. Would Like to meet that seer.

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I believe this gentleman (VintageTraderNC) had the inside scoop on Soto from the get go.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2159

REGGIE206 runner up.

FatboyWu · 03-09-2021, 09:12 PM

My Juans. Got the 2019 Green Clearly Authentic Auto Rookie Cup in today. Sweeeet card in hand.

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ALBASKETBALL · 03-09-2021, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

I believe this gentleman (VintageTraderNC) had the inside scoop on Soto from the get go.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2159

REGGIE206 runner up.

My gosh. Any idea what he still owns?

towerymt · 03-09-2021, 09:37 PM

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My gosh. Any idea what he still owns?

All of it? LOL
https://www.instagram.com/breakingbill_sportscards/

NoWhammys2021 · 03-09-2021, 09:37 PM

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My gosh. Any idea what he still owns?

Hobunch plus 100 something ‘18 chrome boxes also.

He got it all right this time. All of it....

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SGC300ier · 03-09-2021, 09:38 PM

That is incredible.

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BonVoyage · 03-09-2021, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

How much impact will the prospect market have on guys like Soto, Acuna, Tatis and Trout? People are seeing how the prospect market is going wild and will stop focusing on the established stars market (imo). Look at a guy like Michael Harris whose card prices double overnight, or guys like Erick Pena and Luis Matos who have gone from like $90 to $200 in a month. I feel that the hobby is filled with a new crowd that wants a quick payday. For this reason, I believe we will see a stall in most vets as they are seen as the boring blue chips of the market. I'm not saying they are not good buys, but I think the last untapped market is the prospect market and the gamblers from football/basketball are going to come flooding in trying to find the next Soto.

How many 2020 base prospect cards are selling for more than $100/each? A ton. A Soto home run won't double his prices, but apparently a Bobby Witt Jr. home run will send his prices soaring even though they are already high.

I’m kinda of the opposite opinion, that prospect prices will stall and blue chips will stay hot.
How much new money is going to want to pay attention to MiLB? If it’s not on sportscenter, are they really going to care?

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FatboyWu · 03-09-2021, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

I believe this gentleman (VintageTraderNC) had the inside scoop on Soto from the get go.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2159

REGGIE206 runner up.

Holy $h#t!!

eye4talent · 03-09-2021, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

I believe this gentleman (VintageTraderNC) had the inside scoop on Soto from the get go.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2159

REGGIE206 runner up.

I feel nauseous.

Cards and 401K · 03-09-2021, 10:03 PM

You should see some of the sale prices on these Soto's back in Septemberish 2016.

ALBASKETBALL · 03-09-2021, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cards and 401K

You should see some of the sale prices on these Soto's back in Septemberish 2016.

If you frequent BO - you have seen them. Same could be said about -insert player x - here.

NoWhammys2021 · 03-09-2021, 10:36 PM

It’s still a back to the future sports almanac type collection though, amazing really.

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Snakeonia · 03-09-2021, 11:19 PM

Well Bill have a bone to throw at us on the next target? Amazing amazing stuff

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ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 11:20 PM

my Naturel Soto arrived, i like it

bpc3qh · 03-09-2021, 11:38 PM

Got impatient with the hangers at Walgreens, "splurged" ($6) on this guy instead.

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,145 ThoseBackPages	my Naturel Soto arrived, i like it __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-09-2021, 06:28 PM	#11830
SGC300ier Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,079 sgc_collectiblez	Got this is the mail today. Seller says in description, no flaws that I can see..... Hmmmmm.... Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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FatboyWu Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Baltimore Posts: 685	My Juans. Got the 2019 Green Clearly Authentic Auto Rookie Cup in today. Sweeeet card in hand. Sent from my LM-Q730 using Tapatalk

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SGC300ier Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,079 sgc_collectiblez	That is incredible. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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Cards and 401K Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 3,566	You should see some of the sale prices on these Soto's back in Septemberish 2016.

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NoWhammys2021 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,545	It’s still a back to the future sports almanac type collection though, amazing really. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Snakeonia Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 2,601	Well Bill have a bone to throw at us on the next target? Amazing amazing stuff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-09-2021, 11:38 PM	#11850
bpc3qh Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Virginia Posts: 328	Got impatient with the hangers at Walgreens, "splurged" ($6) on this guy instead.