2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[xbignick]

Originally Posted by JosieD

I wanted to acknowlege your reply to me but I have no responce, really. I was always under the impression that his affairs were consentual. I don't agree with going outside your marriage but it is not my place to judge someone else's decison to saty with their spouse. I don't judge Mrs. Trump for staying wiht her husband despite his short comings.

Originally Posted by JosieD

I think it all depends on where you live. I am not sure why our country has had to get to this point.

As a women, I can not respect the things that has been done by Mr. Trump. He has sexually assulted women simply because he feels it is his right. How would you like it if if some guy was bragging about grabbing your daughter's pussy just because he was famous. Or your wife, your sister, your mother. Anyone who you would kill for. That is what he has done over and over again.

If anyone reports this for my usage of the word pussy and you are voting for Trump, consider yourself a huge hypocrite.

PUSSY!

Does that bother you in the slighest that I keep using that word? They are just words...right?

PS>
I am not a Hilary fan either but she isn't going around groping strangers and bragging about it.

If I would have to find a difference it would be this:



Not a lot of focus that even in that moment he didn't know he was heard there's consent.

Now Bill...not so much there and news not coming out at times of opportunity. As for why he matters she wouldn't be where she is today without him, she dragged his accusers through the mud, in one case while doing her job said a little girl wanted it from a rapist. A lady who fights for women but when he benefited her removed a key campaign phrase from her site of believing women.

And on top of it while she sat at home for weeks she trotted him out as the face to take her place, certainly feels like he's on the ticket.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

When you are running for this highest office in the world, being under FBI investigation isn't a good thing for the country. Guilty or not.

If you use your brain and research this case, it's pretty clear.

You don't delete emails and have aids break your stuff with hammers if you have nothing to hide.

Did you post this in the deflategate threads and then get annihilated by the Brady homers?

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

It's gonna be sickening to watch Hiliary and her supporters downplay the reopening of the investigation. r

Like this one?
The Reopening Of The Clinton Email Investigation Is More GOP Hype Over Nothing

[xbignick]

Next one up to the mic at her event, will she respond?

[Bronco Buster]

Originally Posted by xbignick

Next one up to the mic at her event, will she respond?

NOPE right into let's pretend it never happened mode

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by xbignick

If I would have to find a difference it would be this:



Not a lot of focus that even in that moment he didn't know he was heard there's consent.

Now Bill...not so much there and news not coming out at times of opportunity. As for why he matters she wouldn't be where she is today without him, she dragged his accusers through the mud, in one case while doing her job said a little girl wanted it from a rapist. A lady who fights for women but when he benefited her removed a key campaign phrase from her site of believing women.

And on top of it while she sat at home for weeks she trotted him out as the face to take her place, certainly feels like he's on the ticket.

Bingo. Doesn't make it right but it is a lot different when women let him act this way and go on to later date him or pursue a job with him as some of the accusers have.

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[vwnut13]

Clearly Russia is bullying the FBI.

[xbignick]

Originally Posted by Bronco Buster

NOPE right into let's pretend it never happened mode

Wow, repeated the stamina-debate comment for the tenth time.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by JosieD

I think it all depends on where you live. I am not sure why our country has had to get to this point.

As a women, I can not respect the things that has been done by Mr. Trump. He has sexually assulted women simply because he feels it is his right. How would you like it if if some guy was bragging about grabbing your daughter's pussy just because he was famous. Or your wife, your sister, your mother. Anyone who you would kill for. That is what he has done over and over again.

If anyone reports this for my usage of the word pussy and you are voting for Trump, consider yourself a huge hypocrite.

PUSSY!

Does that bother you in the slighest that I keep using that word? They are just words...right?

PS>
I am not a Hilary fan either but she isn't going around groping strangers and bragging about it.

Her husband was. Hillary is a fake feminist. She was an enabler who attacked Bills victims. I would have had respect for her if she would have divorced him for the sexual assaults he put her through. Strong women my ass. How about that for being a hypocrite. Not to mention all the other illegal crap Bill and Hillary have done.

[xbignick]

They're from Anthony Weiner's device! Breaking from within.

[xbignick]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0

WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement officials said Friday that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin, an aide to Mrs. Clinton, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

[techtre2003]

I was watching her speak for a few minutes and noticed her fly buddy is back

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by xbignick

If I would have to find a difference it would be this:



Not a lot of focus that even in that moment he didn't know he was heard there's consent.

Now Bill...not so much there and news not coming out at times of opportunity. As for why he matters she wouldn't be where she is today without him, she dragged his accusers through the mud, in one case while doing her job said a little girl wanted it from a rapist. A lady who fights for women but when he benefited her removed a key campaign phrase from her site of believing women.

And on top of it while she sat at home for weeks she trotted him out as the face to take her place, certainly feels like he's on the ticket.

Well there it is. Kind of kills the whole "he's groping defenseless women" bs.

That's called consent.

[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by JosieD

But he has tiny hands....Don't you want someone with a firm grip?



Oh, I am sure we would. My thing is I don't think they are just words. I think he really assulted women.



Thank you for your support. Josie 2016

last names is doubleD correct ?

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by JosieD

I can totally understand, on a political level only, why people are voting for Mr. Trump. I am taking my son with me this year to go vote. He is 7 and somehow he has heard Mr. Trump speak. He called him a stupid because he says evil things about women. I want to raise my boys to respect women, to be self-sufficent go getters who are compassionate. I feel like voting for Donald Trump would be sending the wrong message to them.

I would never tell anyone how to raise their kids. However shouldn't voting on the issues that effect you and your family be the #1 thing on your list? No candidate is perfect and this election have proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You are looking at this from a woman's POV and that's 100% understandable obviously. However the issues at stake here can effect your family much worse if you're voting on who is the bigger abuser of women instead of who keeps more money in your pockets and who has a better chance of protecting the people of this country.

I am voting on the issues. I am not electing a pastor. You sound like a great parent, your kids will not be effected by the character in the white house with a strong woman such as yourself raising them.

[Bronco Buster]

and the MSM and Clinton supporters brushing it off making sure to over emphasize that the new evidence isn't anything from her personal server or anything specifically sent by her. So obviously she is completely innocnt and her hands are washed clean.

[thebrett]

Does anyone here, supporting Donald Trump actually believe he is a good candidate, OR does everyone here, supporting Donald Trump think he is better than Hillary and of course Obama?

It is a serious non trolling question

I have read most of this ridiculously long thread, and almost all support of Trump is based in criticism of Democrats and various others.

Therefore I would like to know

Do any of you, firmly believe in him, his policies, his demeanor and his ability to properly execute the duties of this position?

As a follow up, I am curious which of his proposed plans you feel is well thought out, likely to succeed and possible given the reality of the rest of the Political landscape.

I think Trump supporters have gotten a bad wrap as racist, selfish, short sighted and on occasion full blown dumb. I wouldn't mind hearing someone with a solid well informed point of view cite some facts and reality in his support.

Also, I am on the record and firmly believing Hillary is a lying, manipulative, corrupt, fake piece of #@#@#@#@ who is only looking out for her own candidacy so this is not in her defense.

[Bronco Buster]

I personally believe he can't be worse than what we've had the last 20+ yrs. He is 100% opposite of the big govt. BS that we have had and to be honest I'm willing to at least give him a chance. If he is truly as bad as everyone seems to think then vote him out in 4 yrs.

The biggest thing to me though isn't what he can and can't realistically get done because part of running is to make promises that sound good but in all likelyhood can't or won't be achievable and then blame it on the other side of the isle. The biggest thing this election is about is the Supreme Court bottom line.


And let me state clearly that anyone who votes for Trump expecting this huge magical wall to appear the first day he's in office are idiots. Just like all the people who voted for Obama thinking he was actually going to bring Change.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by thebrett

Does anyone here, supporting Donald Trump actually believe he is a good candidate, OR does everyone here, supporting Donald Trump think he is better than Hillary and of course Obama?

It is a serious non trolling question

I have read most of this ridiculously long thread, and almost all support of Trump is based in criticism of Democrats and various others.

Therefore I would like to know

Do any of you, firmly believe in him, his policies, his demeanor and his ability to properly execute the duties of this position?

As a follow up, I am curious which of his proposed plans you feel is well thought out, likely to succeed and possible given the reality of the rest of the Political landscape.

I think Trump supporters have gotten a bad wrap as racist, selfish, short sighted and on occasion full blown dumb. I wouldn't mind hearing someone with a solid well informed point of view cite some facts and reality in his support.

Also, I am on the record and firmly believing Hillary is a lying, manipulative, corrupt, fake piece of #@#@#@#@ who is only looking out for her own candidacy so this is not in her defense.

I've liked him from the beginning as an outsider, and align my views of stronger border security and the Business/Trade/Tax policy that he has proposed this whole campaign. The only thing that has really bothered me is when he got upset about the Orlando shooting and wanted "all" Muslims to be suspended from immigrating and when the NBC audio tape leaked. Everything else "bad" about him has been propped up by the media or has been outright lies, and even if some other things are true about him, I'm not able to wade through 95% of media lies to find what they are not making up.

[Timmay]

The 12 year old in me finds it amusing that both Clintons could be impeached because of their Weiners.

[HillbillyCletus]

Happy Friday.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by xbignick

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0

WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement officials said Friday that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin, an aide to Mrs. Clinton, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

Clinton sent Abedin emails w/ classified documents attached, she downloaded and opened them, then deleted the emails. Forgot their still on her phone. These are the people in charge of our country?

Uhhhh ohhhhh.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by thebrett

Does anyone here, supporting Donald Trump actually believe he is a good candidate, OR does everyone here, supporting Donald Trump think he is better than Hillary and of course Obama?

It is a serious non trolling question

I have read most of this ridiculously long thread, and almost all support of Trump is based in criticism of Democrats and various others.

Therefore I would like to know

Do any of you, firmly believe in him, his policies, his demeanor and his ability to properly execute the duties of this position?

As a follow up, I am curious which of his proposed plans you feel is well thought out, likely to succeed and possible given the reality of the rest of the Political landscape.

I think Trump supporters have gotten a bad wrap as racist, selfish, short sighted and on occasion full blown dumb. I wouldn't mind hearing someone with a solid well informed point of view cite some facts and reality in his support.

Also, I am on the record and firmly believing Hillary is a lying, manipulative, corrupt, fake piece of #@#@#@#@ who is only looking out for her own candidacy so this is not in her defense.

1. The world is spinning out of control..

Trump wants a wall and extreme vetting for people in those regions.

Hillary wants open borders (her words) and a MASSIVE increase on refuges that we can not vet. She is asking for a terror attack.

Trump wins on this issue. Please LMK if I am crazy.

2. Obama care

It is exploding in cost. Hillary wants to "tweak" it to make it "better"

Trump wants to repeal and replace it with something more affordable. He talks about health savings accounts/removing the lines and blah blah

I will admit that I have not heard enough from Trump on this issue. All I know is that Obama care is a absolute train wreck and it does need to go.

So I give Trump the win here, yet not as enthusiastically.

3. Taxes

Trump is cutting taxes on the middle class. Hillary, from everything I have seen is raising taxes on the middle class. Not acceptable.

Trump wins

4. Trust

Say what you want about Trump, he is in this for the people of this country. He doesn't need this and will be fine if he loses. What the hell will Hillary do if she loses? She is a proven compulsive liar and is hiding SOMETHING major with all of these email cover ups.

I am convinced there is a massive story we may never know about due to her deleting and destroying all of the evidence AFTER getting a subpoena. The woman is corrupt and has proven she can not be trusted with classified info.

Trump wins.

He isn't perfect. I have said this many times. He has a massive ego, he puts his foot in his mouth constantly, he is an egomaniac.

Yet, given the choice between these two people, it's Trump and it isn't close.

[thebrett]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

1. The world is spinning out of control..

Trump wants a wall and extreme vetting for people in those regions.

Hillary wants open borders (her words) and a MASSIVE increase on refuges that we can not vet. She is asking for a terror attack.

Trump wins on this issue. Please LMK if I am crazy.

2. Obama care

It is exploding in cost. Hillary wants to "tweak" it to make it "better"

Trump wants to repeal and replace it with something more affordable. He talks about health savings accounts/removing the lines and blah blah

I will admit that I have not heard enough from Trump on this issue. All I know is that Obama care is a absolute train wreck and it does need to go.

So I give Trump the win here, yet not as enthusiastically.

3. Taxes

Trump is cutting taxes on the middle class. Hillary, from everything I have seen is raising taxes on the middle class. Not acceptable.

Trump wins

4. Trust

Say what you want about Trump, he is in this for the people of this country. He doesn't need this and will be fine if he loses. What the hell will Hillary do if she loses? She is a proven compulsive liar and is hiding SOMETHING major with all of these email cover ups.

I am convinced there is a massive story we may never know about due to her deleting and destroying all of the evidence AFTER getting a subpoena. The woman is corrupt and has proven she can not be trusted with classified info.

Trump wins.

He isn't perfect. I have said this many times. He has a massive ego, he puts his foot in his mouth constantly, he is an egomaniac.

Yet, given the choice between these two people, it's Trump and it isn't close.

I appreciate the civil and well thought out response

My feedback would be that this is exactly what I am talking about

I am not asking if Trump is better than Hillary, I don't actually care about that

Is Trump on his own, a quality candidate?

You bring up the wall and extreme vetting. The wall flat out can not happen and vetting is a nightmare even as an unrealized concept. Putting it into action is a civil rights violation and a slippery slope.

You bring up Obama care which is a nightmare and will collapse regardless of who wins. I have yet to see any logical solution other than allowing a free market system. I am fine with that system as I basically advocate for capitalism and as little governmental interference as possible, but his plan is essentially to just let nature take it's course. That is fine with ME, but leaves tens of millions of Americans and children with no coverage.

Taxes. I am sorry but neither has a plan that can work and I think we all see that. Mr. Trump can't actually just lower Corporate Tax, I would become a Corporation tomorrow and so would everyone else with a brain. You can't put employee limits because I would join a collective or it would be an unfair business advantage for large corporations. You can't just lower taxes without cutting services, you can't cut services without other politicians freaking out. I hate both tax ideas that have been floated, but saying his is better than hers is what I was asking us to avoid

Trust. No, sorry. Your entire statement after this was that she is untrustworthy. Not the question.

I will ask again, can anyone discuss JUST Trump for me?

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by thebrett

I appreciate the civil and well thought out response

My feedback would be that this is exactly what I am talking about

I am not asking if Trump is better than Hillary, I don't actually care about that

Is Trump on his own, a quality candidate?

You bring up the wall and extreme vetting. The wall flat out can not happen and vetting is a nightmare even as an unrealized concept. Putting it into action is a civil rights violation and a slippery slope.

You bring up Obama care which is a nightmare and will collapse regardless of who wins. I have yet to see any logical solution other than allowing a free market system. I am fine with that system as I basically advocate for capitalism and as little governmental interference as possible, but his plan is essentially to just let nature take it's course. That is fine with ME, but leaves tens of millions of Americans and children with no coverage.

Taxes. I am sorry but neither has a plan that can work and I think we all see that. Mr. Trump can't actually just lower Corporate Tax, I would become a Corporation tomorrow and so would everyone else with a brain. You can't put employee limits because I would join a collective or it would be an unfair business advantage for large corporations. You can't just lower taxes without cutting services, you can't cut services without other politicians freaking out. I hate both tax ideas that have been floated, but saying his is better than hers is what I was asking us to avoid

Trust. No, sorry. Your entire statement after this was that she is untrustworthy. Not the question.

I will ask again, can anyone discuss JUST Trump for me?

I have to bring up things like trust because Trump isn't running against a candidate like Obama with a clean record. It has to be a compare and contrast with this specific election. You're fooling yourself looking at it any other way.

The wall can and will happen. He built his entire campaign on it.

I feel I discussed Trump more than appropriately in my response and compared him with the other candidate to show why I am picking Trump.