Where is the Marshawn Lynch anthem thread?

[Samiamryan]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

The NFL needs to implement an immediate 2 game unpaid suspension for any player that does not stand for the National Anthem. If the player disagrees with this policy they are more than welcome to stay in the locker room during the anthem. If the player wants to stage a protest do it on their own time without using the resources of the NFL.

I really don't think my above statement should happen, but the NFL needs to get control of their league.

Maybe we should force prayer before each game too, right?

If you want to force patriotism, I hear North Korea is beautiful this time of year. Maybe you would find their views on "patriotism" more your style...

[JMarchand1981]

I love what James Harrison said about sitting for the anthem. Always hated the guy until the "participation trophy" thing and now this.

[Samiamryan]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Same reason why they get suspended for saying a certain anti-gay slur. Political/Racial/etc opinions/actions should not be tolerated by the NFL.

So your comparing a silent protest by sitting to using homophobic or racial slurs?

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

Suspended for what, actually? What crime or policy is being violated?

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Why??

Do not confuse the Anthem Issue with a First Amendment. The players are the employees of the NFL who gets to set the rules on their conduct (ask Ezekiel Elliott). You and I would not be able to use our employer in a public campaign and that is well within the law.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

So your comparing a silent protest by sitting to using homophobic or racial slurs?

Yea, your argument is they have a right. People have rights to use words also. So obviously the NFL does not need to accept negative actions/words. Millions of people find what these players are doing far more offensive than words.

[JMG318]

Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I love what James Harrison said about sitting for the anthem. Always hated the guy until the "participation trophy" thing and now this.

If you're talking about the threat tweet I'm pretty sure it was fake.

[JMarchand1981]

Originally Posted by JMG318

If you're talking about the threat tweet I'm pretty sure it was fake.

I'm talking about the thing ESPN.com is saying. talking that the only reason to sit for the anthem is because you are in a wheelchair.

[Samiamryan]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

Do not confuse the Anthem Issue with a First Amendment. The players are the employees of the NFL who gets to set the rules on their conduct (ask Ezekiel Elliott). You and I would not be able to use our employer in a public campaign and that is well within the law.

So I'll ask AGAIN... what law, rule, or policy did these players break that would warrant a suspension?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

So I'll ask AGAIN... what law, rule, or policy did these players break that would warrant a suspension?

They need to come up with a policy. That's what people are asking. The NBA has a policy that players must stand

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

So I'll ask AGAIN... what law, rule, or policy did these players break that would warrant a suspension?

I think the sentiment here is that the league should create a policy mandating standing for the anthem.

Of course, then a player could simply protest by not putting their hand over their heart or even just raising their fist. So then the league would have to make it a blanket policy of "no disrupting the anthem or deviating from any social norms" and we'll be in full blown thought police land.

[phreak9]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

So I'll ask AGAIN... what law, rule, or policy did these players break that would warrant a suspension?

The players get judged. Possible jersey sale decreases and no new contract are the penalty.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

So I'll ask AGAIN... what law, rule, or policy did these players break that would warrant a suspension?

Perhaps you need to Google the NFL Personal Conduct Policy.

Personal Conduct Policy
All persons associated with the NFL are required to avoid “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League.” This requirement applies to players, coaches, other team employees, owners, game officials and all others privileged to work in the National Football League.
For many years, it has been well understood that rules promoting lawful, ethical, and responsible conduct serve the interests of the League, its players, and fans. Illegal or irresponsible conduct does more than simply tarnish the offender. It puts innocent people at risk, sullies the reputation of others involved in the game, and undermines public respect and support for the NFL.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by cking

This should be stickied up top. Great way to put it so maybe others will understand.

I dont agree with alot of things people protest about. They still have the right to protest though, even if I dont like it.

You can also tell them that you don't like what they're doing, though. It's the other side of the coin.

[Samiamryan]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Yea, your argument is they have a right. People have rights to use words also. So obviously the NFL does not need to accept negative actions/words. Millions of people find what these players are doing far more offensive than words.

If you find sitting for the anthem MORE offensive than someone calling someone the N word, then I pitty you.

If the league wants to ban racial slurs that are aggressive and spread hate, then by all means. Like yelling fire in a crowded room. What you talking about is FORCING someone to show patriotism. I mean seriously! "Get on your feet boy and salute that flag!" The only people who are mandated to stand for the flag or do anything specific with the flag are people who enlist in the military. You think the NFL should mandate that the players have the same kind of rules the military does reguarding the flag?

What about the fans? Should be be thrown out of the stadium of not standing?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

If you find sitting for the anthem MORE offensive than someone calling someone the N word, then I pitty you.

If the league wants to ban racial slurs that are aggressive and spread hate, then by all means. Like yelling fire in a crowded room. What you talking about is FORCING someone to show patriotism. I mean seriously! "Get on your feet boy and salute that flag!" The only people who are mandated to stand for the flag or do anything specific with the flag are people who enlist in the military. You think the NFL should mandate that the players have the same kind of rules the military does reguarding the flag?

What about the fans? Should be be thrown out of the stadium of not standing?

I find both incredibly disrespectful. But I find people sitting and eating a banana during the national anthem far worse than insulting someone. But that's just me and that's the point. We shouldn't have to have this stupid argument in a frikkin football game. Keep politics out of the game. If some dudes were coming out of the locker room wearing make america great again hats, people would be having a hissy fit with the NFL, haha. I just don't enjoy the game when they make it political.

[Seahawks fan]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

This is me.. it is literally a guy sitting on a bench not harming a soul.

The next thread will be Joe Schmo didn't take off his hat for the anthem lets kill him.

Keep watching the kardashians and caring what they wear/ who they date...its IMPORTANT!

[ssbledsoe]

[Samiamryan]

Originally Posted by pgisback

I find both incredibly disrespectful. But I find people sitting and eating a banana during the national anthem far worse than insulting someone. But that's just me and that's the point. We shouldn't have to have this stupid argument in a frikkin football game. Keep politics out of the game. If some dudes were coming out of the locker room wearing make america great again hats, people would be having a hissy fit with the NFL, haha. I just don't enjoy the game when they make it political.

Well, the "make America great again" hat would violate the NFL uniform policy, so I could see a fine or suspension for that. Lol.

I'll agree that I'm sick of politics too and sports is a great get away from that. That said, if something politcal happens like this, I just move along to the game. Sports talk is talking about it, turn the channel. It's that simple. I'm more mad at the media for making this into a bigger thing than it really is.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by pgisback

I find both incredibly disrespectful. But I find people sitting and eating a banana during the national anthem far worse than insulting someone. But that's just me and that's the point. We shouldn't have to have this stupid argument in a frikkin football game. Keep politics out of the game. If some dudes were coming out of the locker room wearing make america great again hats, people would be having a hissy fit with the NFL, haha. I just don't enjoy the game when they make it political.

We know that Samiamryan would fully support the players' right to wear MAGA Hats.... Anything less than full support of this idea would by hypocritical.

I fully agree to keep Politics out of sports. Too bad that ESPN did not see this the same way.

[Jay9Suited]

I'd show more attention/respect to players sitting if they were actually out trying to change the things they are sitting for. Unfortunately it seems they think sitting is going to magically make things better. Sure they have the right, but what a lazy protest.

[Samiamryan]

As I've stated before, that violates the NFL dress policy. But it would be their right if it wasn't. As much as I wouldn't like it, I sure wouldn't cry about it. It's not me wearing the hat.

[Samiamryan]

Originally Posted by Jay9Suited

I'd show more attention/respect to players sitting if they were actually out trying to change the things they are sitting for. Unfortunately it seems they think sitting is going to magically make things better. Sure they have the right, but what a lazy protest.

Do yourself a favor and google Colin Kaepernicks charity work cause you sound pretty uninformed...

[rman112]

I see we have now reached the "free speech is great, until you say something I don't like. Then shut up and don't say anything, unless you're a ______ " part of the thread.

[codered]

Originally Posted by pgisback

I find both incredibly disrespectful. But I find people sitting and eating a banana during the national anthem far worse than insulting someone. But that's just me and that's the point. We shouldn't have to have this stupid argument in a frikkin football game. Keep politics out of the game. If some dudes were coming out of the locker room wearing make america great again hats, people would be having a hissy fit with the NFL, haha. I just don't enjoy the game when they make it political.

So sitting for the national anthem is equal to or greater than hate speech.....got it

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Samiamryan

See, now your making it personal. Don't assume a single thing about me. You don't know me. Attack the source because you can't attack the substance.

Maybe go watch North Korean football. I hear the are VERY patriotic cause there life depend upon it.

Change your Tampon if you think that was personal. My substance is that you are really not for free speech, only for the speech/actions that you agree with (a pretty common thing these days). I must have hit the bulls eye with emotional response that you provided.