Ronald Acuña

[MBMiller25]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Don't have a single Yelich RC so haven't paid any attention to his card values until today after venturing upon the Yelich potential thread. Pretty blown away on how his base update has doubled from 150 to 300 in the last few days and probably making all those sellers with psa 10 update Yelich cards laughing all the way to the bank. Yes yes, this is an Acuna and not Yelich thread...I'm getting to it...I think what is happening with Yelich's RCs is the same potential with all of Acuna's 2017 and 2018 stuff. As some have mentioned on the Yelich thread, his MVP season last year happened on his age 26 season. Acuna is in his age 21 season this year, and so far this season, has demonstrated an incredible amount of patience at the plate. Yes, he ran into a few tough pitchers (Kluber & Bauer/AL pitching) the last few days and racked up some Ks, but overall, his pitch selection appears to have improved greatly from last season (a skill rarely seen in someone as young as Acuna). He's been incredibly consistent so far though...hitting in 14 of 20 games...going no more than 2 games without a hit. His current numbers has him projecting to a 40 hr./100+ runs/100 RBIs season and he hasn't been "hot". What remains to be seen is if he can get into a homer streak like last season (7 hrs in 8 games). Pitchers are not dumb though (well, at least most of them aren't). They are pitching him a lot more carefully/tougher now which means Acuna has to be a lot more patient. The big IF...if he can go on one of those hr streaks, his cards will blow up like what Yelich's cards are doing. One more thing is that a lot of the games Acuna has played in so far has been in cold weather. As the weather warms up, his performance will rise just as well. He will only get better this season.

I agree with you. That’s also an incredibly balanced lineup he’s hitting in with very patient hitters hitting in front of him and behind him. I really like this team long term for his development and staying power. I wish Mike Trout had a lineup like this around him.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by nflfans4ever

Buying Acuna right now is like buying stock of a huge company that is about to blossom.

Originally Posted by MBMiller25

I do, And can’t figure out why. It’s nice to see I am not alone in this thinking.

I have listed some Soto and Acuna RC's (duplicates) at eBay and here at B/S/T. What I have noticed is Soto's cards were selling like hot cakes back in Oct-Dec of 2018 but not anymore. His prices have cooled off a little bit.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Pure insanity. Is he really 3x as good as Mookie Betts?

Or 10x as good are Arenado?
Or 5x as good as Acuna?
Or 7x as good as Soto?


When he slumps, some people are going to lose their shirt.

Let them spend their money. At those prices, he MUST win the MVP this year to maintain them in the offseason. The problem with Yelich long-term is his age. He's basically Trout's age, but spent his first five seasons as a slightly above average ball player. In today's hobby, you can't have that. There are so few players who are retired or outside of their prime that are still hobby favorites, and none of them get anywhere near what Trout gets. Pujols and Griffey are terrific examples (US175 sells for 2.5x UD1 in PSA 10!!!).

So getting to Acuna, this is why I have elected to put the bulk of my baseball $$$ into his stuff. He is a true five-tool player, who mashes HRs, has an attitude that this generation's collectors enjoy, and is with a franchise who has a proven track record. And he just turned 21! It's a gamble for sure, but this guy is worth every penny you can risk.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Anyone think his 2017 BC non-autos are undervalued?

They are nice alternatives to his autos at around 1/10th the cost.

[NoleinJax]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Looks like the finest mystery auto ending tonight was recently purchased on 4/4 in a bgs 9/10 holder and cracked out. Bigboyd has another ending in 6 days same thing. Cracked bgs 9/10.

Do you have any info on the one that ended tonight because I won it and would feel a little deceived if it had been cracked without being disclosed. I only bid so high because it looked clean and description said "ready for grading" which really seems shady if it had already been graded.

[NoleinJax]

Originally Posted by pewe

I just used my Q1 eBucks to buy this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/113722823228

Realize I probably should have asked this before I won the auction, but does the BGS 9.5 get penalized when it is the simple version without the sub-grades? Fingers crossed I didn't just make a rookie mistake here...

You beat me on that one. I thought I had won it until I didn't. lol. Nice grab.

[cp312]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Let them spend their money. At those prices, he MUST win the MVP this year to maintain them in the offseason. The problem with Yelich long-term is his age. He's basically Trout's age, but spent his first five seasons as a slightly above average ball player. In today's hobby, you can't have that. There are so few players who are retired or outside of their prime that are still hobby favorites, and none of them get anywhere near what Trout gets. Pujols and Griffey are terrific examples (US175 sells for 2.5x UD1 in PSA 10!!!).

So getting to Acuna, this is why I have elected to put the bulk of my baseball $$$ into his stuff. He is a true five-tool player, who mashes HRs, has an attitude that this generation's collectors enjoy, and is with a franchise who has a proven track record. And he just turned 21! It's a gamble for sure, but this guy is worth every penny you can risk.

Exactly. I keep thinking about how he's so much younger than Yelich. I was drawn into the Yelich thread and saw how crazy prices have gotten, but was still quickly able to find "deals" on non eBay sites, like an update gold for $150. But with how his prices have risen, by the time I get in in hand it may no longer be the "deal" it is, the prices seem unsustainable so I'd rather use those funds for a larger quantity of Acuna cards which haven't even really taken off at all realistically

[FT35]

Originally Posted by pewe

I just used my Q1 eBucks to buy this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/113722823228

Realize I probably should have asked this before I won the auction, but does the BGS 9.5 get penalized when it is the simple version without the sub-grades? Fingers crossed I didn't just make a rookie mistake here...

Probably not...but it will stay within the BGS 9.5 value range as opposed to the higher PSA 10 range. If you prefer BGS, you're fine--it's the same 9.5 that a 9.5 with sub grades would be. However, the value is typically higher within a PSA slab--sometimes significantly for baseball cards. You bought a great card regardless--you just aren't getting much added value from the slab, if that makes sense. If I were you, I'd be happy with the purchase while keeping an eye on the PSA 10 prices for this card and be willing to sub to PSA on a crossover service if PSA 10s blow up!

[KhalDrogo]

8% eBay Bucks for all you Acuna fiends out there.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

8% eBay Bucks for all you Acuna fiends out there.

of course there is, because I just made purchases yesterday

[cp312]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

8% eBay Bucks for all you Acuna fiends out there.

What?! NOOOO I literally just checked out with 2 ASG factory sets

[premium1981]

That's a shame. I missed out on this one it seems.

[ACCDADEAL]

Us250 Topps Update feels like it could skyrocket.
Am I wrong?

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[Zauron]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Let them spend their money. At those prices, he MUST win the MVP this year to maintain them in the offseason. The problem with Yelich long-term is his age. He's basically Trout's age, but spent his first five seasons as a slightly above average ball player. In today's hobby, you can't have that. There are so few players who are retired or outside of their prime that are still hobby favorites, and none of them get anywhere near what Trout gets. Pujols and Griffey are terrific examples (US175 sells for 2.5x UD1 in PSA 10!!!).

So getting to Acuna, this is why I have elected to put the bulk of my baseball $$$ into his stuff. He is a true five-tool player, who mashes HRs, has an attitude that this generation's collectors enjoy, and is with a franchise who has a proven track record. And he just turned 21! It's a gamble for sure, but this guy is worth every penny you can risk.

Man, I was hoarding up Soto because he had so much fewer options than Acuna, but I should have went more towards Acuna.

Also, Yelich basically accumulated 17 WAR in 4 seasons with Miami, his first year he played in only 60 games and accumulated 1.7 WAR. He was a very good player in Miami and now he figured out how to hit with power. I don't see Yelich slumping at all right now, and these prices are going to stay unless he does get injured.

Just think, Bellinger and Yelich so far have Acuna under the radar in terms of production. Acuna is on pace to hit 40 homeruns while slashing with an OPS above 1.000....in only his second season as a 21 year old. I'm just excited because there's so many young players excelling.

[FT35]

Originally Posted by ACCDADEAL

Us250 Topps Update feels like it could skyrocket.
Am I wrong?

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I think we're kind of in the midst of this now? PSA 10s were $20-25 in March and now they are knocking on the door of $70.

[ACCDADEAL]

I think we're kind of in the midst of this now? PSA 10s were $20-25 in March and now they are knocking on the door of $70


Whats the cieling ya think on them. Us 250?

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[ACCDADEAL]

I think we're kind of in the midst of this now? PSA 10s were $20-25 in March and now they are knocking on the door of $70

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[sigmachi]

Originally Posted by ACCDADEAL

I think we're kind of in the midst of this now? PSA 10s were $20-25 in March and now they are knocking on the door of $70


Whats the cieling ya think on them. Us 250?

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I don't know the ceiling but I do know that out of my 15 US250's, only 4 passed my eye test as possible PSA 10's. So yes there is a butt ton of that card in circulation but only a small percentage probably worthy of a 10 grade.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by sigmachi

I don't know the ceiling but I do know that out of my 15 US250's, only 4 passed my eye test as possible PSA 10's. So yes there is a butt ton of that card in circulation but only a small percentage probably worthy of a 10 grade.

I think this is spot on... in fact the ones I'd really be pressed to find on my own seem to be the gold parallel #/2018... so many that I pull have a spot of white on at least one corner.

Probably worth over indexing on those in 10-grade. Feels like a small portion will ever get that.

Interestingly, I've had better luck with the rainbow foil.

[nflfans4ever]

US250 will be over 100$ really soon.

[kyle121592]

Originally Posted by nflfans4ever

US250 will be over 100$ really soon.

I had initially thought August-September.

Having watched prices take off the past week or so, I would say we top $100 per by the middle of May. Assuming production stays on par and he hits a few dingers between now and then!

[griffan15]

Originally Posted by nflfans4ever

US250 will be over 100$ really soon.

I agree with this. And if the Yelich Updates are any indication, these will be going up steadily over the next few years.

I don't think anyone will ever reach Trout levels ($1k+ for Update PSA 10s), but given Acuna's age and what he can do, $500+ is not unobtainable. Now, it will take a few years, but it's definitely possible.

[pcptrade]

Mail day... Sending this to BGS in the PSA slab (instead of cracking it) for a crossover attempt to BGS 9.5/Auto 10

2018 Acuna Topps Heritage Real One Red Ink Auto #44/69 PSA 9 Auto 10 by pcp trade, on Flickr

[imbluestreak23]

Can’t really compare Yelly market to Acuna. Yelly supply is analogous to Trout. Acuna has lots of card issues for 17 and 18. Still if he does well the boat will rise. Yellys just may rise faster due to small supply

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Can’t really compare Yelly market to Acuna. Yelly supply is analogous to Trout. Acuna has lots of card issues for 17 and 18. Still if he does well the boat will rise. Yellys just may rise faster due to small supply

Agree with this sentiment. Both Yelich/Trout have a limited RC selection to pick from

You could make an argument for like 7 different RC (First year card) as THE one to own for Acuna.