2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[trixstar]

lol I think we can all agree on this

https://twitter.com/camanpour/status/786168799829499905

NSFW language FYI

[natbornkiller]

remember when dems were given crap to rommey for saying russia was a problem in the debates the last election ?
now dems are screaming from roof tops

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by timber09

So, a couple of things to point out with this statement:

1 - Not one of his policies is mentioned here.

2 - Why is it that no Trump endorsement can be given without a "Hilary Sucks" message in it? OK that one is a question, not a statement.


I get what you are saying and understand my post is based in curiosity not confrontation.

I was going to post this a few days ago but you came in to this thread late. There is a lot of discussion about his policies early on.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

The guy who wrote that piece also tweeted that Donald Trump had spent time in a mental institution...which was later deleted because it was false. Bravo.

Correct, and I think this article makes a good point about how social media has caused reporters to post things to fast or too hastily to try and get information out there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...93a_story.html

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

That's why I said whether the cheat sheet is legit or not.

Emotion includes feeling. Politician's scripted smile is just pulling the muscles.

How is it not legit? Her responses in the debates have been the most scripted responses anybody has ever heard.

Heaven forbid she should have a press conference and answer random questions, without having the answers already given to her.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by quackhead

How is it not legit? Her responses in the debates have been the most scripted responses anybody has ever heard.

Heaven forbid she should have a press conference and answer random questions, without having the answers already given to her.

Scripted answer or well-prepare for the debate.

I guess we are saying the same thing.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Correct, and I think this article makes a good point about how social media has caused reporters to post things to fast or too hastily to try and get information out there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...93a_story.html

HA. An hour ago you were talking about "credible" media and Breitbart, and then you go and post an article from the Washington Post.

Too funny.

[timber09]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

I was going to post this a few days ago but you came in to this thread late. There is a lot of discussion about his policies early on.

Fine - I guess I missed it.

Does it really take that much time to copy and paste the one bullet point of his that draws one in as a supporter?

Here's a link to his campaign site - feel free to pick one if you can spare the 20 seconds. Hover over "positions" and one should be able to find all of his talking points.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by quackhead

How is it not legit? Her responses in the debates have been the most scripted responses anybody has ever heard.

Heaven forbid she should have a press conference and answer random questions, without having the answers already given to her.

Donna Brazile after the second debate...

She looked brave, articulated, showed the American people they can trust her. Ladies and Gentleman...I think we are looking at our first female President of the United States.

Meanwhile...
Wikileaks mystery: How did town hall question get to Clinton campaign? - Oct. 11, 2016

[jlzinck]

HEY LET'S Change this up....instead of bashing whichever one of these idiots you don't like try touting the great things said idiot will do or that you like about said idiot.

Thread would last about 9 more posts

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by timber09

Fine - I guess I missed it.

Does it really take that much time to copy and paste the one bullet point of his that draws one in as a supporter?

Here's a link to his campaign site - feel free to pick one if you can spare the 20 seconds. Hover over "positions" and one should be able to find all of his talking points.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

I posted this link in the thread already. Discussed many things about it. How about you take the time and go through the thread? Why don't you do the same for Hillary?

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by timber09

So, a couple of things to point out with this statement:

1 - Not one of his policies is mentioned here.

2 - Why is it that no Trump endorsement can be given without a "Hilary Sucks" message in it? OK that one is a question, not a statement.


I get what you are saying and understand my post is based in curiosity not confrontation.

Ok. Here is a quick list. (Trump's policy I agree with on the left side vs Clinton on the right if big difference in policy):

1. Border Security vs. Open Borders
2. Extreme vetting of Syrian immigrants vs 550% increase in "under-vetted" Syrian refugees.
3. Renegotiating Trade deals vs Keeping the TPP.
4. Making ISIS a top priority
5. Upgrading the Military (and breaking up bad contracts that keep equipment costs high and outdated imo).
6. Better care for Vets by making the VA a top priority.
7. Proposing to help the inner cities like Detroit that have high rates of crime and unemployment.
8. I personally don't trust the Establishment (which Wikileaks is proving why) and like that he is anti-establishment.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

HEY LET'S Change this up....instead of bashing whichever one of these idiots you don't like try touting the great things said idiot will do or that you like about said idiot.

Thread would last about 9 more posts

Status Quo vs. New. I don't believe Clinton to be the Devil, and I don't believe Trump to be a role model of any kind ... but I do believe that the amount of corruption in politics and how the media tries to push their agenda needs change ASAP. Wikileaks is little to do about Clinton herself, and more to do w/ how the political engine on the left works (and probably the right as well w/ current republican politicians).

I want that changed. Period. Candidates be damned, give me someone who actually has a chance to blow it all up.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

HEY LET'S Change this up....instead of bashing whichever one of these idiots you don't like try touting the great things said idiot will do or that you like about said idiot.

Thread would last about 9 more posts

[redsoxx11]

Originally Posted by timber09

So, a couple of things to point out with this statement:

1 - Not one of his policies is mentioned here.

2 - Why is it that no Trump endorsement can be given without a "Hilary Sucks" message in it? OK that one is a question, not a statement.


I get what you are saying and understand my post is based in curiosity not confrontation.

If you are so curious go read the document, stop making people so your work for you. Oh wait that's a liberal tenant, we work then we pay for the people who don't. Sorry didn't mean to offend you're world view.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

Scripted answer or well-prepare for the debate.

I guess we are saying the same thing.

Yep, she is a robot.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

HEY LET'S Change this up....instead of bashing whichever one of these idiots you don't like try touting the great things said idiot will do or that you like about said idiot.

Thread would last about 9 more posts

1. I like that Clinton said she wouldn't put US forces en masse on the ground in Syria at the last town hall.

2. I like her plans green energy thoughts. I think if the US could indeed become the leader in that market, we could make a mint, while also helping the environment by using less fossil fuels and reducing our reliance on foreign oil.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Donna Brazile after the second debate...

She looked brave, articulated, showed the American people they can trust her. Ladies and Gentleman...I think we are looking at our first female President of the United States.

Meanwhile...
Wikileaks mystery: How did town hall question get to Clinton campaign? - Oct. 11, 2016

............................

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Ok. Here is a quick list. (Trump's policy I agree with on the left side vs Clinton on the right if big difference in policy):

1. Border Security vs. Open Borders
2. Extreme vetting of Syrian immigrants vs 550% increase in "under-vetted" Syrian refugees.
3. Renegotiating Trade deals vs Keeping the TPP.
4. Making ISIS a top priority
5. Upgrading the Military (and breaking up bad contracts that keep equipment costs high and outdated imo).
6. Better care for Vets by making the VA a top priority.
7. Proposing to help the inner cities like Detroit that have high rates of crime and unemployment.
8. I personally don't trust the Establishment (which Wikileaks is proving why) and like that he is anti-establishment.

I guess it could go along with number 3 but I would like to add reversing the trend of corporations and manufacturing leaving the US>

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

1. I like that Clinton said she wouldn't put US forces en masse on the ground in Syria at the last town hall.

2. I like her plans green energy thoughts. I think if the US could indeed become the leader in that market, we could make a mint, while also helping the environment by using less fossil fuels and reducing our reliance on foreign oil.

1. No politician can say that, they can't see the future.

2. Like Obama and others before him, they don't hold the key. Too much money being made by the rich in oil for the US to become the "leader" in green energy. Plus we like our big gas guzzlers.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Boo

1. No politician can say that, they can't see the future.

2. Like Obama and others before him, they don't hold the key. Too much money being made by the rich in oil for the US to become the "leader" in green energy. Plus we like our big gas guzzlers.

Green peace hates Hillary.

Hillary Clinton?s Connections to the Oil and Gas Industry - Greenpeace USA

[timber09]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Ok. Here is a quick list. (Trump's policy I agree with on the left side vs Clinton on the right if big difference in policy):

1. Border Security vs. Open Borders
2. Extreme vetting of Syrian immigrants vs 550% increase in "under-vetted" Syrian refugees.
3. Renegotiating Trade deals vs Keeping the TPP.
4. Making ISIS a top priority
5. Upgrading the Military (and breaking up bad contracts that keep equipment costs high and outdated imo).
6. Better care for Vets by making the VA a top priority.
7. Proposing to help the inner cities like Detroit that have high rates of crime and unemployment.
8. I personally don't trust the Establishment (which Wikileaks is proving why) and like that he is anti-establishment.

Thank you - appreciate it.

If you are so curious go read the document, stop making people so your work for you. Oh wait that's a liberal tenant, we work then we pay for the people who don't. Sorry didn't mean to offend you're world view.

I have read and have come up with my own opinions, I was simply asking for the specific opinions of others. My apologies if my simple liberal brain was curious as to your thought process and general feelings. I see asking you such questions only exposes my bias and enrages the questioned.


Me: Why do you like chocolate ice cream over vanilla?
Daughter: It's better - vanilla sucks.
Me: Why do you feel that way?
Daughter: Quit with your liberal media bias and loaded questions! You know that vanilla has always sucked and will always suck. I am tired of it's control of the media and of the mindless morons that stomp about this country. Just give me my damn chocolate ice cream!

[jarrodsalas]

THis will make some Trump/Putin bashers on here scream.

Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, called Putin “engaging” and said he was a “very interesting conversationalist” in some of those speech excerpts, which were revealed when WikiLeaks began releasing alleged emails belonging to Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta.

“I would love it if we could continue to build a more positive relationship with Russia,” Clinton said during a speech to Goldman Sachs on June 4, 2013. In the same speech, Clinton said “obviously we would very much like to have a positive relationship with Russia and we would like to see Putin be less defensive toward a relationship with the United States so that we could work together on some issues.”

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by timber09

Thank you - appreciate it.




I have read and have come up with my own opinions, I was simply asking for the specific opinions of others. My apologies if my simple liberal brain was curious as to your thought process and general feelings. I see asking you such questions only exposes my bias and enrages the questioned.


Me: Why do you like chocolate ice cream over vanilla?
Daughter: It's better - vanilla sucks.
Me: Why do you feel that way?
Daughter: Quit with your liberal media bias and loaded questions! You know that vanilla has always sucked and will always suck. I am tired of it's control of the media and of the mindless morons that stomp about this country. Just give me my damn chocolate ice cream!

But we are talking about white chocolate ice cream here.....

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by redsoxx11

If you are so curious go read the document, stop making people so your work for you. Oh wait that's a liberal tenant, we work then we pay for the people who don't. Sorry didn't mean to offend you're world view.

LOL, that's not a stretch at all. This is exactly why political discussions turn into, well, this.