2020 Topps Chrome Sapphire - Checklist Up

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

Topps should just price them at $400.

Eliminate the flip and let clectrs have them

Wrong! Topps wants mass hysteria. They want their site to suck. They want flippers snagging them for $60 each and re-selling on FB. They want people talking (wether its good or bad). Collectors getting them and stashing them, doesn't create demand and excitement for their next Topps release.

[cj828282]

If Topps keeps the same configuration as last year, 1 rookie auto 8 packs it will be the same price at $50.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by IntergalacticSp

It's not a good practice for treating your customers well. That would be like if Costco only allowed people to sign up for memberships at a specific time of year.

Why does Topps need to treat their customers well? They sell out on every product, prices are through the roof. They could literally not get a single new customer all year and they would still be successful.

And isn't it treating your customers well when customers give you money for a club up front, not knowing exactly what it consists of, but then over-delivering? I don't think there is single Club member who would not renew if given the chance. I would say they have been treated VERY well.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Wrong! Topps wants mass hysteria. They want their site to suck. They want flippers snagging them for $60 each and re-selling on FB. They want people talking (wether its good or bad). Collectors getting them and stashing them, doesn't create demand and excitement for their next Topps release.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm, but if not...

People still dont have their Baller boxes and those same people are ready to throw money at Sapphire and Ginter X.

No additional hype and demand is needed, its already through the roof and people will buy anything.

I'm not throwing stones, I'm waiting for Sapphire too.

[Jamesebee]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

FYI...everyone is going to hate Topps website the day these come out. Go ahead and get over that now.

But I already hate their website! Gimme something to love about it!
And don't say ToppsNOW.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

I'm assuming this is sarcasm, but if not...

People still dont have their Baller boxes and those same people are ready to throw money at Sapphire and Ginter X.

No additional hype and demand is needed, its already through the roof and people will buy anything.

I'm not throwing stones, I'm waiting for Sapphire too.

Definitely wasn't sarcasm. By the time Sapphire drops, most people will have forgotten about Baller. Topps has to keep the fire burning hot. There's zero reason they would make this a just for collectors or price it just for collectors thing. Its become one of their hottest/sexiest products of the year. They want the chatter. In this type of market...more hype and more demand is always needed.

If you pull any Bichette and you're selling...Im your guy

[Boo]

It will be MC and then raffle, web site won't break.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Definitely wasn't sarcasm. By the time Sapphire drops, most people will have forgotten about Baller. Topps has to keep the fire burning hot. There's zero reason they would make this a just for collectors or price it just for collectors thing. Its become one of their hottest/sexiest products of the year. They want the chatter. In this type of market...more hype and more demand is always needed.

If you pull any Bichette and you're selling...Im your guy

Why would they care if anyone forgot about Baller, its already sold.

You are confusing Topps with the secondary market, Topps doesn't care once its out the door.

You are telling me, today, in 2020, in this market that people wouldn't care about Sapphire if Topps made it easier to acquire?

[yrocks2001]

Nothing in today's afternoon email blast about Sapphire, I am guessing next week but a little surprised Ginter X doesn't drop prior

[Angrycake]

Originally Posted by sickmantz

What are they playing at with those "rookie" designations? Re: Eloy, Vlad, Tatis...

Rookie Cup?

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by yrocks2001

Nothing in today's afternoon email blast about Sapphire, I am guessing next week but a little surprised Ginter X doesn't drop prior

Yeah I am surprised we have not heard anything yet about Ginter X. If the PR stays the same it is about 1 box per MC membership and then no public sale. Maybe trying to figure out what to do with so few boxes.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by cj828282

Yeah I am surprised we have not heard anything yet about Ginter X. If the PR stays the same it is about 1 box per MC membership and then no public sale. Maybe trying to figure out what to do with so few boxes.

This is exactly what raffles are for. Raffles inside clubs work, versus the public free for all, because tickets ultimately cost money.

[babybull]

Originally Posted by IntergalacticSp

I really hope they allow non-MC members a change to buy. It's ridiculous that you can't even sign up for MC but only MC members get access to some products.

This club has been open to anyone. Twice.

[vegetable]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Capitalism is a beautiful thing. Maybe Topps should equally distribute 1 sapphire card to every American for $7. That is only fair. It isn't fair that some can't afford $400 boxes while some can. While we are on the subject, I think all collectors should be given a free and equal amount of toploaders too. Its only fair.

ok boomer

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

Why would they care if anyone forgot about Baller, its already sold.

You are confusing Topps with the secondary market, Topps doesn't care once its out the door.

You are telling me, today, in 2020, in this market that people wouldn't care about Sapphire if Topps made it easier to acquire?

Topps absolutely cares about the secondary market on these exclusives. They are purposely helping create it. They don't care who sells the boxes or how much they are selling them for on the secondary market. But they do care about how many impressions the secondary market is creating, while driving more eyeballs to Topps and their products. It drives instant business to the next release. They need to keep us on the Ferris Wheel, 24/7. Keep us excited for the next drug hit. Topps wants to sell out of product as quick as possible! If you don't have demand, chatter, excitement around a product...it makes it awfully hard to sell the next release. Check TP2020 (like it or not). The secondary market exploded on the already released cards. Boom the new cards were seeing drastic increases in their 48hr sales window. Thus putting alot more money into Topps pocket, than they ever imagined that project would do. You're telling me that Topps didn't care about the secondary market? They helped create it by having the artists do interviews, cover of Beckett Magazine, allowing the artists to do companion cards, etc. Musicians and other businesses selling a product, use this trick all the time. Musicians play the smaller venue in major cities early in the year...maybe around a new album release. Sell Out instantly. Super Exclusive gig that its impossible to get tickets to. Thus creating demand and excitement for when they announce the much bigger Arena show you are going to play in that same city later in the Fall. Create demand...then sell more product and sell it faster.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Topps absolutely cares about the secondary market on these exclusives. They are purposely helping create it. They don't care who sells the boxes or how much they are selling them for on the secondary market. But they do care about how many impressions the secondary market is creating, while driving more eyeballs to Topps and their products. It drives instant business to the next release. They need to keep us on the Ferris Wheel, 24/7. Keep us excited for the next drug hit. Topps wants to sell out of product as quick as possible! If you don't have demand, chatter, excitement around a product...it makes it awfully hard to sell the next release. Check TP2020 (like it or not). The secondary market exploded on the already released cards. Boom the new cards were seeing drastic increases in their 48hr sales window. Thus putting alot more money into Topps pocket, than they ever imagined that project would do. You're telling me that Topps didn't care about the secondary market? They helped create it by having the artists do interviews, cover of Beckett Magazine, allowing the artists to do companion cards, etc. Musicians and other businesses selling a product, use this trick all the time. Musicians play the smaller venue in major cities early in the year...maybe around a new album release. Sell Out instantly. Super Exclusive gig that its impossible to get tickets to. Thus creating demand and excitement for when they announce the much bigger Arena show you are going to play in that same city later in the Fall. Create demand...then sell more product and sell it faster.

You say Topps wants to make it hard to get the product by having poor service and a bad website...which will increase demand. Then you say they want to sell it as quick as possible.

Then you compare a product with a set print run, that has a history of selling well for years to a brand new conceptual, print to order product.

Nope. On-demand and online exclusive products are not in the same boat.

This product sells itself. Having bots and sneaker heads battle over Sapphire products on a poor website is not "marketing".

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

This is exactly what raffles are for. Raffles inside clubs work, versus the public free for all, because tickets ultimately cost money.

Yes, I have been watching the account to see if Topps posts an entry for the Ginter X raffle bypassing an MC presale. But it does state that Ginter X would be one of the presales offered to MC members. But I am sure they are not bound to do that and can make changes as they wish.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

You say Topps wants to make it hard to get the product by having poor service and a bad website...which will increase demand. Then you say they want to sell it as quick as possible.

Then you compare a product with a set print run, that has a history of selling well for years to a brand new conceptual, print to order product.

Nope. On-demand and online exclusive products are not in the same boat.

This product sells itself. Having bots and sneaker heads battle over Sapphire products on a poor website is not "marketing".

Cool. Im going to disagree and move on.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

That's correct.

There will be plenty to go around for everyone who wins the raffle (I assume). Hopefully they do a raffle limit of two boxes.

Yep they set print run based on total demand

This year it is 100k

Autos 1:100 boxes

Will be amazing!


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[Archangel1775]

I hope they produce a lot more this year to support all of the Sapphire crackheads out there. I'm looking forward to MSRP.

[coltsnsox07]

Someone remind Topps Luis Robert is almost at the Mendoza Line so keep the prices low..

[BabaORiley]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Someone remind Topps Luis Robert is almost at the Mendoza Line so keep the prices low..

I knew he was slumping, have checked in on him periodically the last month or 6 weeks or whatever, but it's admittedly a little shocking to see Robert sporting a .220/.291/.435 slash line right now.

ETA: And somehow that's STILL a better line than Moncada for 2020.

[prodigylush]

Originally Posted by BabaORiley

I knew he was slumping, have checked in on him periodically the last month or 6 weeks or whatever, but it's admittedly a little shocking to see Robert sporting a .220/.291/.435 slash line right now.

ETA: And somehow that's STILL a better line than Moncada for 2020.

I just checked Altuve’s season stat line today and yikes, that one caught me by surprise.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by prodigylush

I just checked Altuve’s season stat line today and yikes, that one caught me by surprise.

Not that surprising. First year they can’t cheat. Numbers showing it for all the big name Astros. Altuve, Bregman, and Correa all having the worst years of their careers.

[solt0131]

Originally Posted by crpav

Any guesses on MSRP? $50 or Topps gonna current market Topps us?

No chance these will be less than 299.99. Book it.