Would the 1996 Bulls have beaten the 2018 Warriors?

[jr24ai3]

Originally Posted by hawkeyecards

It'd be close for sure but I disagree with the matchups. Wouldn't Jordan probably guard Klay, Klay would destroy Harper. Draymond and Rodman would be an awesome match up for sure but Pippen would not be able to stop Durant. Jordan would probably give up a bunch of points to Curry or Klay but would easily get them back on offense.

HOWEVER, MOST IMPORTANTLY...would Coach Kerr be aware he's coaching against Steve Kerr the player and that they're one in the same? Would that cause a shift with how the universe works because would the player and coach be able to read each others minds? Or would everyone just go up to each one individually and say stuff like dang that dude looks just like you? Also, would he have the same family in the stands watching? Or would there be two more identical families?

Harper has the height to guard Klay but is too slow for Curry (bad knees). Klay isn't going to do anything to you one on one for the most part. I'm not sure why you say Jordan would give up a bunch of points. He was all defensive 1st team in 1995-96 and 1996-97. One of the best defensive guards ever.

[titletowncards]

If Played in 1996 - Bulls
If Played in 2018 - Warriors

[rj.cataldo]

Huge Bulls fan and I’m strongly in the Jordan GOAT camp. I think the Warriors likely win, but it would be close, and it’s really a silly discussion. Two teams constructed for different leagues.

The Bulls were undoubtedly the best team when you look at dominance of the competition in 96. The 96 Sonics are also a better opponent comparatively to the Bulls than the Cavs were for the Warriors. But if we are crossing eras in some magic time machine without the benefit of the players scouting, practicing etc, then perhaps the bulls lose.

The players that give the bulls the most trouble would be Durant and the players at the bottom of the roster/rotation who overall are probably more talented and athletic than the bottom of the bulls roster which was loaded with guys who barely saw the floor in the playoffs (buechler, Brown, Edwards, salley)

The 3pt line was shorter then, which would certainly be advantageous to the Warriors, but people don’t realize bulls also shot above 40% as a team from three (actually higher than this years GSW team), but they took significantly less of them. There always seems to be some stigma that players from that time COULDN’T adjust to today’s game. Guys like Kukoc haven’t even been mentioned, but he was a player with a strong inside out game.

That said, Warriors win in 7. Jordan wins MVP on a losing team. Then the next year, the Bulls use today’s Super Friends NBA rules to sign Reggie Miller, Dikembe Mutumbo to patrol the paint (both tired of being waxed by Jordan), and Steph’s dad for his shooting and ability to mentally manipulate his son, and win the seven game series in 3 games (4th game is cancelled for mercy purposes). In the offseason, Kevin Durant quickly Opts out to join the Bulls...


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[mfw13]

Originally Posted by duron

Incongruent.

Can't even vote.

This.

Game is completely different now that it was 20+ years ago....it's like comparing apples and oranges.

[hawkeyecards]

What about the Kerr Paradox tho? Would it cause a tear in the space time continuum?

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by JMys55

Also, no one says ever complains all these changes would make a difference when comparing teams in the last 30 years.

You never hear... "Well if they didn't add that handchecking rule, Bulls would dominate". That sounds ridiculous. The core of the game is still the same. The way it is played has changed.

I'm just now reading this thread and I'm not going to pick a team.

With that being said, I feel like the27guy made a valid point only to have it casually dismissed. I'm going to post two videos that talk about a couple of these rules - at times, they seem to contradict one another, but all of the info is something to think about nonetheless.

If we're going to compare eras, this is my favorite video out there now - Hubie does a pretty good job breaking things down in about 3 minutes. And I'm not posting this to make an argument for Jordan, despite the title of the video. Watch it for the entirety of the content.



This second vid basically counters this argument at one point and says that handchecking isn't as big of a deal as the zone closes up a lot of the space players would use.

[monkeymcgee]

It would be fun to watch for sure and I think the Bulls would force the Warriors to go to another level, but I'd never bet against Phil Jackson and Tex Winter being able to break down whatever the Warriors threw at them.

[JMarchand1981]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Either way Kerr wins.

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Was just thinking this.

[DubsAstrosBama]

Please tell me these poll results are a joke. The 96 Bulls are an Oldsmobile and the 18 Warriors are a lambo. Seriously. Like think about it this way- Westgate said that GSW last year would have been an 8.5 or fav on a neutral court. So basically just as favored in their home games as they were against the Cavs in this series.

The 96 Bulls cannot run with GS. If they try to play physical and jam Curry, KD, Klay, etc you'll see Harper and Pippen getting blown by and taken to the rim or getting their ankles broken and lit up by smooth 15 ft jumpers, and if they say off obviously the Dubs are gonna jack up mad threes. Seriously, the Bulls would have to pick their poison, and then on offense they would be relying on MJ too much because you know that Rodman and Longley aren't doing jack against the athletic Warriors frontcourt.

A much better matchup would be the 2001 Lakers who might give the Warriors problem with Shaq and the inside out game with the athletic Kobe, not the 2010s Kobe, and sharpshooter like Horry and Fox on the perimeter.

2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 96 Bulls either 4-0 or 4-1
2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 01 Lakers probably 4-2, not sure

These last two Warrior teams are the greatest in the history of non-Olympic basketball.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by DubsAstrosBama

Please tell me these poll results are a joke. The 96 Bulls are an Oldsmobile and the 18 Warriors are a lambo. Seriously. Like think about it this way- Westgate said that GSW last year would have been an 8.5 or fav on a neutral court. So basically just as favored in their home games as they were against the Cavs in this series.

The 96 Bulls cannot run with GS. If they try to play physical and jam Curry, KD, Klay, etc you'll see Harper and Pippen getting blown by and taken to the rim or getting their ankles broken and lit up by smooth 15 ft jumpers, and if they say off obviously the Dubs are gonna jack up mad threes. Seriously, the Bulls would have to pick their poison, and then on offense they would be relying on MJ too much because you know that Rodman and Longley aren't doing jack against the athletic Warriors frontcourt.

A much better matchup would be the 2001 Lakers who might give the Warriors problem with Shaq and the inside out game with the athletic Kobe, not the 2010s Kobe, and sharpshooter like Horry and Fox on the perimeter.

2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 96 Bulls either 4-0 or 4-1
2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 01 Lakers probably 4-2, not sure

These last two Warrior teams are the greatest in the history of non-Olympic basketball.

Hey Durant.

So which pbm or Dub alt account are you?

[IronMonkey415]

Good to see everyone is afraid of the 1996 Sonics.

[buckunteer]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Rose tinted glasses in full effect. It would have been a much better series than what we just got, but the Bulls fall in 6 or 7. It also depends on if Chicago is allowed to play defense. If they are, the series turns in a hurry.

This. With 2018 rules, even if they played 10 best-of-7 series the Bulls win probably 3 at the most, more likely 1-2. But flip the script and the Warriors might not win more than 1 out of 10 against the '96 Bulls with '96 rules in effect.

[DubsAstrosBama]

Originally Posted by buckunteer

This. With 2018 rules, even if they played 10 best-of-7 series the Bulls win probably 3 at the most, more likely 1-2. But flip the script and the Warriors might not win more than 1 out of 10 against the '96 Bulls with '96 rules in effect.

Anybody who claims this just doesn't want their hero MJ to be 6-1 in finals. They can play with the old Naismith peach basket and the Warriors are winning every time!

[SK40]

Sorry, didn't this Cleveland team, that everyone has panned and said is completely useless outside of LeBron, just post 100 points on Golden State in 3 out of 4 Finals games? While shooting under 44% from the field. And playing essentially zero defence to boot. No one on that Warriors roster can stop Jordan, no one.

[drobfan8]

What a great series it would be.

Subtle line up changes would be awesome. Bulls probably start Rodman, Kukoc, Pippen, Jordan and Harper.

7 game series for sure. Would be great to watch.

Let's face it, this current era hasn't had to play anyone near Jordan's level.

Crazy to think that GS will be favorite to win again next season, can they do 4 in 5?

[21Pittsburgh58]

Originally Posted by DubsAstrosBama

Please tell me these poll results are a joke. The 96 Bulls are an Oldsmobile and the 18 Warriors are a lambo. Seriously. Like think about it this way- Westgate said that GSW last year would have been an 8.5 or fav on a neutral court. So basically just as favored in their home games as they were against the Cavs in this series.

The 96 Bulls cannot run with GS. If they try to play physical and jam Curry, KD, Klay, etc you'll see Harper and Pippen getting blown by and taken to the rim or getting their ankles broken and lit up by smooth 15 ft jumpers, and if they say off obviously the Dubs are gonna jack up mad threes. Seriously, the Bulls would have to pick their poison, and then on offense they would be relying on MJ too much because you know that Rodman and Longley aren't doing jack against the athletic Warriors frontcourt.

A much better matchup would be the 2001 Lakers who might give the Warriors problem with Shaq and the inside out game with the athletic Kobe, not the 2010s Kobe, and sharpshooter like Horry and Fox on the perimeter.

2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 96 Bulls either 4-0 or 4-1
2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 01 Lakers probably 4-2, not sure

These last two Warrior teams are the greatest in the history of non-Olympic basketball.

Regardless of what you wrote (I didn’t bother), your username consists of all reigning champs in different states? Holy bandwagon Batman. Only if you’re a military brat is this legal. Lol.

Damnit! Another person using that pu$$y ‘Dubs’ nickname. Keep it Warriors! Calling them ‘Dubs’ is dumb and weak and the exact opposite of how they play ball.

[Siberian13]

Didn’t the Dubs, Astros and Bama all just win titles. I like it!

[Jedi1823]

Originally Posted by jr24ai3

But there's no doubt that Rodman would get in Draymond's head and he'd probably get ejected every game.

Then once Draymond is ejected, Rodman can also help on KD.

Yeah, Rodman would have been able to get Draymond ejected a few minutes into every game. And then he would have had a field day with Durant. Rodman was forged by the Bad Boys Pistons, what they called a light practice, is what the Warriors would call an intense chippy game.

Jordan and Pippen would have been in the heads of Curry, and Klay.

Talent wise, the Warriors are probably better, but they would be no match for the mind games the Bulls would play.

I'd go with the 96 Bulls, although I still say the 91-92 Bulls were better. That's the best team I've seen.

[Deadshot]

The whole "Rodman would've been able to get Draymond ejected" argument is just silly. If this is played in 96, Draymond wouldn't have as short of a leash. If played in 2018, Rodman adapts.

[DubsAstrosBama]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Didn’t the Dubs, Astros and Bama all just win titles. I like it!

They're my childhood teams. I always liked their logos and swagger.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Didn’t the Dubs, Astros and Bama all just win titles. I like it!

What are the odds of all 3 teams winning at the same.time?

Incredible

[gatorboymike]

Yes, although the W's would have been a tougher opponent than any of the teams they actually did face in the Finals.

[Kobe101]

The games are so different now it’s hard to say and realistically we will never know.

But in my opinion those saying how the bulls would completely dominate them are way off...

Durant is so big and quick the Bulls could not cover him. He would be to big for Jordan/Pippen and blow by Rodman.

MJ and Scottie would be running like crazy chasing Klay and Steph through screens.

Additionally, I am not saying Lebron is better then MJ but he is just such a physical specimen. And Iggy Green and Klay could some what contain him..... so they could do the same to MJ.

I don’t know who would win but the Bulls would not sweep them.

[Starman101]

Originally Posted by DubsAstrosBama

Please tell me these poll results are a joke. The 96 Bulls are an Oldsmobile and the 18 Warriors are a lambo. Seriously. Like think about it this way- Westgate said that GSW last year would have been an 8.5 or fav on a neutral court. So basically just as favored in their home games as they were against the Cavs in this series.

The 96 Bulls cannot run with GS. If they try to play physical and jam Curry, KD, Klay, etc you'll see Harper and Pippen getting blown by and taken to the rim or getting their ankles broken and lit up by smooth 15 ft jumpers, and if they say off obviously the Dubs are gonna jack up mad threes. Seriously, the Bulls would have to pick their poison, and then on offense they would be relying on MJ too much because you know that Rodman and Longley aren't doing jack against the athletic Warriors frontcourt.

A much better matchup would be the 2001 Lakers who might give the Warriors problem with Shaq and the inside out game with the athletic Kobe, not the 2010s Kobe, and sharpshooter like Horry and Fox on the perimeter.

2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 96 Bulls either 4-0 or 4-1
2017 or 18 Dubs vs. 01 Lakers probably 4-2, not sure

These last two Warrior teams are the greatest in the history of non-Olympic basketball.

Ok so Golden State needed 7 games to knock off the 2017-18 Rockets without their best playoff performer in CP3 for Games 6 & 7, yet would defeat the Bulls either 4-0 or 4-1

Hahahaha!

Yeah I'll have whatever your'e smoking dude

[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by duron

Incongruent.

Can't even vote.

Yes - what rules would you use.