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Old 03-21-2022, 10:08 PM   #601
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Is it just me or does the serial number location on these cards really disappoint?
Seems like there were better spots for it on the front. I would have also been okay with the serial number on the back too.
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Old 03-21-2022, 10:28 PM   #602
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Seems like there were better spots for it on the front. I would have also been okay with the serial number on the back too.
Whoever decided that serial numbering should be on the front should be drawn and quartered. Their place has always been on the back
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Old 03-21-2022, 11:29 PM   #603
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Unfortunately, for my budget level, I think I'm too late to the game for the BB15 blue refractor (I do have a few base and refractors, at least). But my focus has primarily been on his 2019 cards; until very recently, that Bowman Next could still be a had at a pretty reasonable price, considering its print run and year of issue.
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Old 03-22-2022, 05:45 AM   #604
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Dang, that’s a lot of #/150’s. Do you mind me asking what’s the cheapest you put Jed one up for? BB15 was pretty cheap in general when everyone was still arguing over BB50.
Don't mind at all. The lowest price I paid for one was $97.45 (on February 11).
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Old 03-22-2022, 06:43 AM   #605
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I'm really struggling to understand the obsession with 2021 Bowman's Best for Witt. I would still take a raw 2020 Sapphire over a 2021 Blue Bowman's Best /150. Still upset I traded mine. Seams like an obvious choice to go with the 1st Sapphire to me, but looks like I'm clearly missing something.

I guess I don't get this obsession on 2021 Best for prospects.
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Old 03-22-2022, 07:10 AM   #606
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I would still take a raw 2020 Sapphire over a 2021 Blue Bowman's Best /150.
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Old 03-22-2022, 07:24 AM   #607
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I'm really struggling to understand the obsession with 2021 Bowman's Best for Witt. I would still take a raw 2020 Sapphire over a 2021 Blue Bowman's Best /150. Still upset I traded mine. Seams like an obvious choice to go with the 1st Sapphire to me, but looks like I'm clearly missing something.

I guess I don't get this obsession on 2021 Best for prospects.
The way I look at it, regardless of whether you consider the '21 BB cards true rookies or not, it is a unique situation in sports cards and I'd rather have them than not have them. There isn't a blue left on eBay now, for example, but still plenty of Sapphire to go after. Like hammertime says, why not both? In fact, why not all three once 2022 TC comes out?
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Old 03-22-2022, 07:36 AM   #608
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Don't mind at all. The lowest price I paid for one was $97.45 (on February 11).
Nice. I got mine for $135 and was happy enough with that.
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Old 03-22-2022, 07:41 AM   #609
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The way I look at it, regardless of whether you consider the '21 BB cards true rookies or not, it is a unique situation in sports cards and I'd rather have them than not have them. There isn't a blue left on eBay now, for example, but still plenty of Sapphire to go after. Like hammertime says, why not both? In fact, why not all three once 2022 TC comes out?
Not only are blues drying up, someone (or a few different people) made a run on Aqua lavas last night.

For me it just comes down to having an interesting collection. I have his 2019 Franchise Favorites atomic, his Bowman Stat Tracker auto, his first edition 1st Bowman, his Mega Box 1st Bowman, some BB15’s, and soon I’ll be adding some flagship and Topps Chrome when they release. Tracking down cool stuff is a part of the fun for me.
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Looking forward to getting my oranges and gold back soon from PSA. I also own some sapphires. If you believe in the player, why not own multiple releases? He won’t have a “flagship” release for a while!


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Old 03-22-2022, 08:07 AM   #611
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Not only are blues drying up, someone (or a few different people) made a run on Aqua lavas last night.

For me it just comes down to having an interesting collection. I have his 2019 Franchise Favorites atomic, his Bowman Stat Tracker auto, his first edition 1st Bowman, his Mega Box 1st Bowman, some BB15’s, and soon I’ll be adding some flagship and Topps Chrome when they release. Tracking down cool stuff is a part of the fun for me.
I did grab another aqua lava last night and when I got up this morning two other listings I had on my watch list had ended.
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For me it just comes down to having an interesting collection. I have his 2019 Franchise Favorites atomic, his Bowman Stat Tracker auto, his first edition 1st Bowman, his Mega Box 1st Bowman, some BB15’s, and soon I’ll be adding some flagship and Topps Chrome when they release. Tracking down cool stuff is a part of the fun for me.
Agree 100%. This has been my approach from the beginning - to build an interesting collection that tells the story of Witt’s (hopefully stellar) career, including the fact that he was an intensely hyped, perhaps overhyped, prospect. BB15 and the debate surrounding it just adds an additional fun element to the whole thing. My collection is nothing special - no autos, no rare parallels, nothing with the potential to really become pricy (other than the 2019 Bowman Next, perhaps) - but it’s colorful and will be fun to look at with the kids over the years as Witt (again, hopefully) develops into a Royals legend.

Still wish I’d been paying enough attention to pick up a blue BB15 early on, though!

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Old 03-22-2022, 08:46 AM   #613
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Looking forward to getting my oranges and gold back soon from PSA. I also own some sapphires. If you believe in the player, why not own multiple releases? He won’t have a “flagship” release for a while!


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Gotcha. I also collect all years and releases of Marco, so understand that point. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some connection to 21 BB to prospects. Understand the rookie connection with Wander, but he was called up.

Looks to be also a clear hobby preference for Bowmans Best over Sterling. I'm for sure not on the same side of that with my collection. But appreciate everyone always collecting what they like.
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Gotcha. I also collect all years and releases of Marco, so understand that point. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some connection to 21 BB to prospects. Understand the rookie connection with Wander, but he was called up.

Looks to be also a clear hobby preference for Bowmans Best over Sterling. I'm for sure not on the same side of that with my collection. But appreciate everyone always collecting what they like.
The big argument with 2021 Bowman’s Best was that all 30 prospect card were RCs not just Wander’s. Getting called up in a certain year has no impact on what defines a rookie card, at least by the old school definition. In the modern RC Logo Era, Topps will usually wait until they’re called up before putting them in a flagship release. There’s plenty of examples and exceptions on each side. Either way, BB15 is really cool card, and the blue refractor looks particularly amazing. So it was an easy buy for me.
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Thanks for the clarification Miami.

I don't want to listen to TBP telling me he's got the true rookie card of Marco of 21 BB when he is called up in 2 years. Or Witt when he is called up soon. No offense to you TBP, just using you as an example for a player I collect. Thought it was just a Wander / BB21 debate.
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Old 03-22-2022, 09:37 AM   #617
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Grabbed this one on comc when it popped up a few weeks ago!

01/75 it's an Ebay 1/1 lol


2021 Bowman's Best - [Base] - Gold Lava Refractor #15 - Bobby Witt Jr. /75
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Thanks for the clarification Miami.

I don't want to listen to TBP telling me he's got the true rookie card of Marco of 21 BB when he is called up in 2 years. Or Witt when he is called up soon. No offense to you TBP, just using you as an example for a player I collect. Thought it was just a Wander / BB21 debate.
you wont hear me say the word "true", but there are 30 Rookie Cards in 2021 Bowman's Best that are not in anything else (unless 2021 Bowman Heritage is ever released as it was advertised, then there would be 150 new RCs)
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Old 03-22-2022, 10:06 AM   #619
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Thanks for the clarification Miami.

I don't want to listen to TBP telling me he's got the true rookie card of Marco of 21 BB when he is called up in 2 years. Or Witt when he is called up soon. No offense to you TBP, just using you as an example for a player I collect. Thought it was just a Wander / BB21 debate.
I hear ya. Collect what you like. I’ll say this, BB20 refractors are pretty cheap right now, so no harm is picking one up just for fun if you’re a fan of his. I picked up a base refractor of his for $3.
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Grabbed this one on comc when it popped up a few weeks ago!

01/75 it's an Ebay 1/1 lol


2021 Bowman's Best - [Base] - Gold Lava Refractor #15 - Bobby Witt Jr. /75
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That’s a beauty.
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Old 03-22-2022, 11:02 AM   #621
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That’s a beauty.
Thanks! I was surprised to see something good show up on COMC so I jumped on it
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I know it's only spring training but BWJ is batting second in the lineup today
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I found the dreaded “dimple” on the backside of my blue refractor. Do we know if SGC is dinging the grade because of it?
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Old 03-22-2022, 12:26 PM   #624
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Johnnie has Witt #1 overall.

https://primetimesportstalk.com/2022...rospects-1-20/

BUY TOPPS CHROME.

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I found the dreaded “dimple” on the backside of my blue refractor. Do we know if SGC is dinging the grade because of it?
I can chime in on this. I noted that one of my blues had the dimple, but both graded 10s
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