✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by GMRide27

So you're still trolling threads this year right?

Block and move on. Not worth it.


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[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I'll hold your hand Arthur, if you will hold mine...lot 18 is me.

It's hand-holding time, buddy.



Arthur

[fabiani12333]

Seems like Ohtani has only been able to be great at either hitting or pitching at one time. In the first half he was great at hitting and only good at pitching. In the second half it was the reverse -- great at pitching and merely good at hitting:

First half:
Hitting: 1.062 OPS
Pitching: 3.49 ERA

Second half (so far):
Hitting: .840 OPS
Pitching: 2.13 ERA

I can't imagine how hard it is to do both at a high level in the modern-day big leagues.

[comicbooksgo]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

I promise you, I NEVER know something someone else doesn't.

Arthur

The statement of a wise man.

[NYBBFAN]

I think the HR derby put a kink in his performance. Next year, I’d bet he opts out. He is still having an all-time great, unprecedented season. I’m just happy to have some of his cards

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

I think the HR derby put a kink in his performance. Next year, I’d bet he opts out. He is still having an all-time great, unprecedented season. I’m just happy to have some of his cards

I think it ushered in pull-mode.


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[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

It's hand-holding time, buddy.



Arthur

Truth.

Trying my best to not look. It is what it is.




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[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by k13

Do people want Hideo Nomo/Daisuke/Hideki cards as much as they used to?

In 5-6 years or less people will be begging that someone takes their Ohtani cards.

You could be right....you could be wrong....we will find out in 5-6 years! But the comparison seems like apples to oranges. Wouldn't a better comparison be Ichiro?

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

I promise you, I NEVER know something someone else doesn't.

Arthur

Ha! That may be true, but I guarantee you know more than me about sports cards!!!

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Ohtani just waiting his time in purgatory until he can go to a real team.

He could have been a Yankee, but.......

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by GMRide27

So you're still trolling threads this year right?

When you hate yourself and life, what else is there to do? I blocked the troll and only see it's posts when quoted... so stop it!!

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[marl1220]

Originally Posted by moosetequila

When you hate yourself and life, what else is there to do? I blocked the troll and only see it's posts when quoted... so stop it!!

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This part made me laugh for some reason. Going all "Silence of the Lambs" on their ass.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by marl1220

He could have been a Yankee, but.......

if the NL goes to a DH, I think the Dodgers and Padres will go hard after him. He wants to stay on the west coast, it makes it easier for people in Japan to watch or something.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by anusinha

if the NL goes to a DH, I think the Dodgers and Padres will go hard after him. He wants to stay on the west coast, it makes it easier for people in Japan to watch or something.

There's also a much larger Asian presence on the West Coast and a much shorter flight home for him. You can close your eyes and throw a rock and hit a good sushi joint on the West Coast. I'm back on the East Coast now and I can't find halfway decent sushi to save my life (and I'm literally living on Cape Cod).

I can totally understand why Asian players want to be on the West Coast. Hell, I'm not even Asian and I wish I were back there again.

Arthur

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Seems like Ohtani has only been able to be great at either hitting or pitching at one time. In the first half he was great at hitting and only good at pitching. In the second half it was the reverse -- great at pitching and merely good at hitting:

First half:
Hitting: 1.062 OPS
Pitching: 3.49 ERA

Second half (so far):
Hitting: .840 OPS
Pitching: 2.13 ERA

I can't imagine how hard it is to do both at a high level in the modern-day big leagues.

When he was hitting better in the first half of the season, did he have better hitters around him at that time than he does now?

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by anusinha

if the NL goes to a DH, I think the Dodgers and Padres will go hard after him. He wants to stay on the west coast, it makes it easier for people in Japan to watch or something.

He's not leaving the Angels. He's already proven he cares less about money than any other player. When Ohtani transferred, he got a financial structure as if he was coming out the minor leagues because he wasn't 25 and had less than 6 years of pro ball. That's Year 1, 2 and 3, at the league minimum of 500k plus an initial signing bonus of 2 million. He then signed an 8 mil, 2 year deal to buy out arbitration years 4 and 5. And in year 6 he'll go to arb and probably set a record for $25 million. So in total he'll make out with about $35-$40 for his first 6 years.

If Ohtani waited 2 more years to transfer from Japan(entering MLB in 2020), he would've entered the main free agency pool in which he would've had a $200+ million offer.

[seanrs1]

I just went through the 3 big Ohtani threads including this one. Not a lot of print run info was posted. Was hoping more people would reply to my last post with print run info, so I decided to go another route and show off my Ohtani collection of inserts, variation and sp cards. If you have any print run info any of my cards please let me know!


From left to right
Topps gallery wood Sp, Topps fire flame thrower insert, Topps big league green sp, Bowman chrome mega mojo ROY favorites
Topps US1 rainbow foil, Topps RD rainbow foil, Topps heritage color swap, Topps #700 Sp, Topps series 2 1983 blue
Stadium club beam team red, Stadium club SF red, Stadium club NC red, Bowman chrome refractor national convention, Topps gypsy queen white face plate


Topps big league blue, Topps High Tek (pattern ?), Bowmen's best refractor, Topps update chrome mojo
Topps black label 1,2,3 black, Topps heritage purple chrome refractor
Bowman platinum ice, Bowman platinum image variation ssp, Topps chrome xfractor, Topps archives image variation batting


Topps High Tek pattern (?), Topps heritage deckle edge insert, Bowman chrome base (I know not a sp or insert)
Topps series 2 chrome mojo, Topps US1 sp, Topps #700 chrome complete sets
Bowman sterling (I know not an insert or sp)


Topps chrome #150 pink, prism, sepia, image variation, Topps chrome update pink
Topps series 2 all-star complete set


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[Tank67]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

I just went through the 3 big Ohtani threads including this one. Not a lot of print run info was posted. Was hoping more people would reply to my last post with print run info, so I decided to go another route and show off my Ohtani collection of inserts, variation and sp cards. If you have any print run info any of my cards please let me know!



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Awesome stuff, I love those '18 pinks. I was just able to snag the update pink

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

When he was hitting better in the first half of the season, did he have better hitters around him at that time than he does now?

some guy named Trout, dont know if youve heard of him. Rendon too, but he sucks now. Jared Walsh in all star form as well, the whole Angels team is on the IL right now.

[GMRide27]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

I just went through the 3 big Ohtani threads including this one. Not a lot of print run info was posted. Was hoping more people would reply to my last post with print run info, so I decided to go another route and show off my Ohtani collection of inserts, variation and sp cards. If you have any print run info any of my cards please let me know!


From left to right
Topps gallery wood Sp, Topps fire flame thrower insert, Topps big league green sp, Bowman chrome mega mojo ROY favorites
Topps US1 rainbow foil, Topps RD rainbow foil, Topps heritage color swap, Topps #700 Sp, Topps series 2 1983 blue
Stadium club beam team red, Stadium club SF red, Stadium club NC red, Bowman chrome refractor national convention, Topps gypsy queen white face plate


Topps big league blue, Topps High Tek (pattern ?), Bowmen's best refractor, Topps update chrome mojo
Topps black label 1,2,3 black, Topps heritage purple chrome refractor
Bowman platinum ice, Bowman platinum image variation ssp, Topps chrome xfractor, Topps archives image variation batting


Topps High Tek pattern (?), Topps heritage deckle edge insert, Bowman chrome base (I know not a sp or insert)
Topps series 2 chrome mojo, Topps US1 sp, Topps #700 chrome complete sets
Bowman sterling (I know not an insert or sp)


Topps chrome #150 pink, prism, sepia, image variation, Topps chrome update pink
Topps series 2 all-star complete set


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Let me know if the Batting Practice flagship is for sale! Can take that off your hands.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by GMRide27

Let me know if the Batting Practice flagship is for sale! Can take that off your hands.

Nothing is for sale or trade! Just wanting learn more about my cards and print runs!

[shamcat]

Sup

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[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Nothing is for sale or trade! Just wanting learn more about my cards and print runs!

BBCPedia is probably the most underrated site in the hobby. They have the pack odds in a nice little organized spreadsheet format that makes doing math easier than doing it usually. If you're clever, you can often times determine print runs or ballpark them by using those and multiplying with a 1/1 insert or something.

Arthur

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

BBCPedia is probably the most underrated site in the hobby. They have the pack odds in a nice little organized spreadsheet format that makes doing math easier than doing it usually. If you're clever, you can often times determine print runs or ballpark them by using those and multiplying with a 1/1 insert or something.

Arthur

Thanks for the tip, I will take a look at the site (is it bbcpedia.com). Did you ever do the print run calculation on the topps black label black cards?

[anusinha]

type it out, baseballcardpedia.com, bbcpedia might take you somewhere you totally dont (or do) want to go.