Ok So Kris Bryant 13's seem to be "the one"

[gonygo]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

We shall see. But no matter what happens Cubs fans will want a piece of history. So it will happen. I've said that all along. The Cubs fanatics are unlike any other. And they've waited how many years for that?!? This is one situation where actual play on the field by single players won't completely dictate prices. It's not like any other team. It's simple to see and understand.

THIS EXACTLY

[hermanotarjeta]

Yes, Kris Bryant will hit the game winning home run in game 7 of the World Series and we will all become millionaires overnight!

[gonygo]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yes, Kris Bryant will hit the game winning home run in game 7 of the World Series and we will all become millionaires overnight!

or maybe he will just be part of a young popular team that has success and people that own his card/s or root for the kid and/or the Cubbies will finally have a reason to smile and be happy.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by gonygo

or maybe he will just be part of a young popular team that has success and people that own his card/s or root for the kid and/or the Cubbies will finally have a reason to smile and be happy.

So many shiny happy people!

[Rjk214]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yes, Kris Bryant will hit the game winning home run in game 7 of the World Series and we will all become millionaires overnight!

And that response right there goes to show your true colors and why you can't see what myself and others have said. You are an investor and take this hobby as a "business" which is why you can't understand what could actually happen. It's so much more about the Cubs/city/long time fans than you could ever picture. It's so easy to understand but yet you can't seem to grasp that a team that hasn't won in 100 years is worth something to many many people.

You are more than welcome to go invest and do your self proclaimed "business" work elsewhere and stop trying to argue a point that doesn't make any sense to you since you can't understand the collector side of the market for this team and a chance at history.

[gonygo]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

And that response right there goes to show your true colors and why you can't see what myself and others have said. You are an investor and take this hobby as a "business" which is why you can't understand what could actually happen. It's so much more about the Cubs/city/long time fans than you could ever picture. It's so easy to understand but yet you can't seem to grasp that a team that hasn't won in 100 years is worth something to many many people.

You are more than welcome to go invest and do your self proclaimed "business" work elsewhere and stop trying to argue a point that doesn't make any sense to you since you can't understand the collector side of the market for this team and a chance at history.

Well said. People want to be a part of this. Buy a KB shirt, jersey or perish the thought a rc baseball card w or w/o his autograph on it. Certain people might get n understand it. Or maybe he/she doesn't. Or perhaps he/she just doesn't care. Or maybe he/she dislikes the Cubbies. Whatever. People have their opinions. They're entitled to them. Right or wrong.

[gonygo]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

So many shiny happy people!

That was a great song lol R.E.M

[jova888]

2013 Bowman Chrome Kris Bryant Superfractor Auto 1 1 His Best Card Gem Mint BGS | eBay

Pump, Pump, Pump..

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

And that response right there goes to show your true colors and why you can't see what myself and others have said. You are an investor and take this hobby as a "business" which is why you can't understand what could actually happen. It's so much more about the Cubs/city/long time fans than you could ever picture. It's so easy to understand but yet you can't seem to grasp that a team that hasn't won in 100 years is worth something to many many people.

You are more than welcome to go invest and do your self proclaimed "business" work elsewhere and stop trying to argue a point that doesn't make any sense to you since you can't understand the collector side of the market for this team and a chance at history.

It's that exact group of desperate fans that prospectors/investors prey on. Believe me, if I had a ton vested in Kris Bryant, I'd be a Cubs "fan" as well - cashing in on others emotions and taking advantage of the situation.

I'm doing quite the opposite. I'm warning collectors to keep their heads level. They will be able to buy cards of their heroes at much lower prices in the future.

Of course, if one is born with a silver spoon in one's mouth, you really don't care about how much you spend on a card - you are rich and can buy whatever you want at any price you want. That's not reality for many and most of the collectors on these boards.

[Rjk214]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

It's that exact group of desperate fans that prospectors/investors prey on. Believe me, if I had a ton vested in Kris Bryant, I'd be a Cubs "fan" as well - cashing in on others emotions and taking advantage of the situation.

I'm doing quite the opposite. I'm warning collectors to keep their heads level. They will be able to buy cards of their heroes at much lower prices in the future.

Of course, if one is born with a silver spoon in one's mouth, you really don't care about how much you spend on a card - you are rich and can buy whatever you want at any price you want. That's not reality for many and most of the collectors on these boards.

The fact that you used the word "collectors" on these boards is laughable!!

Apparently you think every single person on this board are the only "collectors" in the market. This place is horrendous to try and sell to collectors. The majority of people on this forum have a self proclaimed "business" in sports cards. I haven't sold 1 KB card and I only have the 1 auto I have pulled of his. So I am not heavily invested in him at all.

You clearly have not understood anything. We aren't even talking about selling or value or anything here in this forum because it has literally 0 to do with it. Most people because of the "business" side of things here understand but that is not what we have stated and argued. It is Cubs fans that want that piece of history not the flipper or the self proclaimed "business" guy who treats sports cards as such. You won't find those fans who want that card or memorabilia here that are willing to pay that much! That has never been case!

I am done trying to explain it to you because it is a waste since you can't seem to grasp the reality of the situation

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

The fact that you used the word "collectors" on these boards is laughable!!

Apparently you think every single person on this board are the only "collectors" in the market. This place is horrendous to try and sell to collectors. The majority of people on this forum have a self proclaimed "business" in sports cards. I haven't sold 1 KB card and I only have the 1 auto I have pulled of his. So I am not heavily invested in him at all.

You clearly have not understood anything. We aren't even talking about selling or value or anything here in this forum because it has literally 0 to do with it. Most people because of the "business" side of things here understand but that is not what we have stated and argued. It is Cubs fans that want that piece of history not the flipper or the self proclaimed "business" guy who treats sports cards as such. You won't find those fans who want that card or memorabilia here that are willing to pay that much! That has never been case!

I am done trying to explain it to you because it is a waste since you can't seem to grasp the reality of the situation

Don't forget that this is a baseball CARD forum, not an mlb fan forum. We discuss how on the field performance affects baseball CARD prices.

Anyone who blindly supports their team/player can come off as someone who is trying to feed the hype. There are those with good intentions as well as those who have ulterior motives.

It is great to be surrounded by those who are in support of your cause, but then again, it is also a learning experience to see the views of those from a different perspective.

I will continue to express my views on card prices in this public forum just as I will continue to read about your enthusiasm about your favorite player/teams. Good luck to your Cubs. I understand when people may be bothered by comments that may counter their concepts, but that's how we grow as human beings, for otherwise we all remain blind to reality.

[Rjk214]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Don't forget that this is a baseball CARD forum, not an mlb fan forum. We discuss how on the field performance affects baseball CARD prices.

Anyone who blindly supports their team/player can come off as someone who is trying to feed the hype. There are those with good intentions as well as those who have ulterior motives.

It is great to be surrounded by those who are in support of your cause, but then again, it is also a learning experience to see the views of those from a different perspective.

I will continue to express my views on card prices in this public forum just as I will continue to read about your enthusiasm about your favorite player/teams. Good luck to your Cubs. I understand when people may be bothered by comments that may counter their concepts, but that's how we grow as human beings, for otherwise we all remain blind to reality.

I have understood your comments and I have even agreed at times that his prices and hype were far too high! I think they are more realistic now and like I said there is a lot more than just individual on field play for the Cubs here. That will help drive prices (When a team is a top 2-3 market team and they haven't won in 100 years or whatever it is easy to put 2+2 together).

If they happen to win the World Series people will want to be a part of that from a collectors standpoint. Not an investors standpoint.

[landonspop]

Originally Posted by gonygo

Well said. People want to be a part of this. Buy a KB shirt, jersey or perish the thought a rc baseball card w or w/o his autograph on it. Certain people might get n understand it. Or maybe he/she doesn't. Or perhaps he/she just doesn't care. Or maybe he/she dislikes the Cubbies. Whatever. People have their opinions. They're entitled to them. Right or wrong.

If I was going to spend hundreds, I would buy a KB original jersey, hopefully with the WS patch on the sleeve also.

I still do not have a KB card and would like one. I have been thinking that, for the prices of his cards, I might be better off buying a box with the chance of getting one that way.

What is the best box value today? Bowman Plat 2014 for $160's, Bowman Plat 2013 for $ 230's, or Topps 2015? I realize this is a gamble, but maybe I can get a few that I could trade.

If I have left off something, fill in the blank. I am still a beginner, and don't know all possibilities.

Thanks

[landonspop]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

I have understood your comments and I have even agreed at times that his prices and hype were far too high! I think they are more realistic now and like I said there is a lot more than just individual on field play for the Cubs here. That will help drive prices (When a team is a top 2-3 market team and they haven't won in 100 years or whatever it is easy to put 2+2 together).

If they happen to win the World Series people will want to be a part of that from a collectors standpoint. Not an investors standpoint.

So do Bryant cards start to drop now, like they would if it was a stock?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by landonspop

So do Bryant cards start to drop now, like they would if it was a stock?

No, according to the majority of the people in this thread his chrome autos are and have always been a steal given his potential. They will only start to drop when people finally realize he will not be the next Bryce Harper. And that may not be for another 5-6 years? Maybe even up to a decade for some who will finally give up the hope of his first chrome auto tripling in value to $1800.

Oh, and don't lose hope yet. He can still hit the World Series clinching home run this season - the Cubs are not out of it yet!

[lamiwe21]

Usually when you have prospects clusters like the Cubs have one out of every three pan out. ( Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks, Tony Gwyn Jr, Elijah Dukes, Delmon Young, Bj Upton, Brian McCann, Jeff Francouer, Kelly Johnson. I am curious who survives this Cubs cluster.

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by lamiwe21

Usually when you have prospects clusters like the Cubs have one out of every three pan out. ( Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks, Tony Gwyn Jr, Elijah Dukes, Delmon Young, Bj Upton, Brian McCann, Jeff Francouer, Kelly Johnson. I am curious who survives this Cubs cluster.

You're spot on but imagine if this case is the exception. Can you fathom what they are capable of if even 3 or 4 live up to expectations?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

You're spot on but imagine if this case is the exception. Can you fathom what they are capable of if even 3 or 4 live up to expectations?

This is precisely what prospectors feed on - hope.

And it is a very powerful thing, as you can tell.

Just please, don't be a victim to hype. Don't be the last one stuck with the hot potato.

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

This is precisely what prospectors feed on - hope.

And it is a very powerful thing, as you can tell.

Just please, don't be a victim to hype. Don't be the last one stuck with the hot potato.

Not a Cubs fan and I'm more of a realist than an optimist. Having said that, I'm currently holding a '13 Bryant BC auto and truly believe it has plenty of room for growth. I am by no means prospecting him but am willing to take my chances with this potato hoping it will be able to upgrade me to a steak.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

Not a Cubs fan and I'm more of a realist than an optimist. Having said that, I'm currently holding a '13 Bryant BC auto and truly believe it has plenty of room for growth. I am by no means prospecting him but am willing to take my chances with this potato hoping it will be able to upgrade me to a steak.

This offseason may be a decent time to pick another one up on the cheap - they may drop down to as low as $200, which is probably the price they should have reached prior to his call up had people bought with level headedness.

[bulljh]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

This offseason may be a decent time to pick another one up on the cheap - they may drop down to as low as $200, which is probably the price they should have reached prior to his call up had people bought with level headedness.

Just sayin

[Rjk214]

Apparently no prospect should ever go higher than $200 before a major league call up according to hermanotarjeta. Also people shouldn't self proclaim sports cards as a "business". People will do what they want. It's the consistent same response from him over and over and over again now. His prices are too high for me to invest and try to make money. So instead I'll just complain about. I invest in cards and I can't in this case. No prospect should ever sell high. Ok then hobby boxes shouldn't ever be over $40 either then.

This hobby has become a "business" which equals bigger dollars. And in turn as said a gizzilion times Cubs actual collectors wanted a piece. Move on already. Damn.

You do understand 1 thing. If Bryant was to become Trout like in the next 2-4 years his card prices will bring 2-3x what Trouts bring right?! Why? Umm Cubs Market. Plain and simple.

[hermanotarjeta]

I've already proven my point.

I'm going to pick up a nice Bryant during the offseason at a discounted price and hope for the best next year. The Cubs will flirt with greatness again next season and it will be another optimal time to sell to a "true fan" who gets caught in the excitement, for that is a prospector's life......

[Ferg1945]

This was a fun thread to go back and read. I was curious to see what Bryants ST peak was.

It has only taken about 17 months for him to get back to his ST peak.

[ksemmel]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I've already proven my point.

I'm going to pick up a nice Bryant during the offseason at a discounted price and hope for the best next year. The Cubs will flirt with greatness again next season and it will be another optimal time to sell to a "true fan" who gets caught in the excitement, for that is a prospector's life......

1. No one cares what you do or do not buy and when you do it
2. Your second sentance is an opinion not fact
3. I do not think you have a true understanding of business sense and how to make money. And if you do, I don't think you understand that some people use their business to feed their families, is that acceptable or no?
4. With your rating and posts, I can't help but think you are only on the forums to troll posts with your opinions

Every one of you posts on this thread is your same opinion and negativity over and over again.