Cybertruck Foundation Series!

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by BOOMER7

Ditto ^^^ works great on my MS plaid.

Most people just hear the FUD about Tesla and incorporate it into their own belief system. They think autopilot is full self driving and then try to educate people without knowing what they are talking about. Most people that talk negative about Tesla have as much knowledge about Tesla than Geoff Wilson has in grading sports cards.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Boo

Adam Driver is correct.

Boo is correct about Adam Driver being correct.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

You have no idea what you are talking about. The Tesla's that maneuver dangerously in front of buses and other cars are crappy drivers. I can say the same about Prius or F150 drivers. All of your opinions are based upon the nonsense that you probably read online or watch on YouTube. They are not based on reality. The vast majority of Tesla cars only have autopilot, not self driving. Autopilot will not change lanes, but you probably think it does.

BTW, Tesla don't rely on touchscreens for all of the controls. They either have buttons or stalks for the critical functions. Windshield wipers are automatic like most cars these days and so are high beams. Everyone is allowed to have opinions, but your opinion is not based on reality.

Obviously I can’t jump out of my car and do a survey asking drivers did they have their hands on the wheel when they darted in front of a heavier vehicle? I can say however that whenever I spot someone pulling a move like that, it seems at least half the time it’s a Tesla. I chalk it up to the combination of high powered tech, a superficial luxury brand, and congested traffic.

There’s also nothing wrong with reading stuff online when it’s articles backed by first-hand research by writers who’ve clocked time in these cars. I’m not talking about TikTok here.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Obviously I can’t jump out of my car and do a survey asking drivers did they have their hands on the wheel when they darted in front of a heavier vehicle? I can say however that whenever I spot someone pulling a move like that, it seems at least half the time it’s a Tesla. I chalk it up to the combination of high powered tech, a superficial luxury brand, and congested traffic.

There’s also nothing wrong with reading stuff online when it’s articles backed by first-hand research by writers who’ve clocked time in these cars. I’m not talking about TikTok here.

You live in LA, half the time it seems like a Tesla because they are the most common car in your area. "Superficial luxury brand?" Tesla Model 3's are cheaper than a Prius right now in California with tax rebates and California rebates. With the price of gas in California, the Model 3, it is an amazing deal. Your bias against a car you never drove is shing through your posts. Why are you so upset at a car company?


Many of those articles are written by people biased against the company and also some are supported by companies with financial interests against Tesla. Big oil, shortsellers, big auto, and dealerships of ICE cars.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

You live in LA, half the time it seems like a Tesla because they are the most common car in your area. "Superficial luxury brand?" Tesla Model 3's are cheaper than a Prius right now in California with tax rebates and California rebates. With the price of gas in California, the Model 3, it is an amazing deal. Your bias against a car you never drove is shing through your posts. Why are you so upset at a car company?


Many of those articles are written by people biased against the company and also some are supported by companies with financial interests against Tesla. Big oil, shortsellers, big auto, and dealerships of ICE cars.

Have you driven around here? Tesla is hands down absolutely not the most common car in SoCal. Top selling in 2022 doesn’t mean the most common Maybe in a year or two.

And I don’t just dislike Teslas. I won’t drive a car that offers no more visibility than a sedan. If Tesla ever makes a real SUV meaning something that won’t be eclipsed by minivan I’ll give it a spin.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Another one of your UFOs? Was it a prototype cyber truck chasing you?

It's going to be interesting to see the first one of these catch fire. I'm wondering how much more water it will take to out on of these out compared to the tons of water required to put out a normal EV fire.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

It's going to be interesting to see the first one of these catch fire. I'm wondering how much more water it will take to out on of these out compared to the tons of water required to put out a normal EV fire.

The EV fire argument again. With the number of Cybertrucks made, it is statistically likely that none of them will catch on fire, but I know you are hoping one does. From an insurance website.

The result? Hybrid-powered cars were involved in about 3,475 fires per every 100,000 sold. Gasoline-powered cars, about 1,530. Electric vehicles (EVs) saw just 25 fires per 100,000 sold.

Want to make a bet that a Cybertruck doesn't catch on fire in 2024 and 2025. My guess is 0 catch on fire. What is your guess?

[Jed Clampett]

Media loves to spin nonsense on Tesla as they are the MAJOR threat to the legacy automakers/ Wall Street shorts/ Elon hate etc. Lots of misinformation on the internet ( agenda)
We own two Teslas ( Model S & Model X) perfect for daily driving. They provide easy access supercharging network/safety/ tech/ less overall maintenance than ice. The catching fire narrative is so overblown. Fact is % wise ice catches fire more often than a EV.

[jlzinck]

Did you lose a bet?

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Have you driven around here? Tesla is hands down absolutely not the most common car in SoCal. Top selling in 2022 doesn’t mean the most common Maybe in a year or two.

And I don’t just dislike Teslas. I won’t drive a car that offers no more visibility than a sedan. If Tesla ever makes a real SUV meaning something that won’t be eclipsed by minivan I’ll give it a spin.

I was just down in Huntington Beach and I saw more Teslas than any other car because they stand out. Toyota is the most common car, but they blend in. The unusual appearance of a Tesla and the idiots that zoom around on them with the acceleration, make them appear to be the most numerous car on the road.

The Model Y is much bigger than people think, except the third row seating option is useless for anyone over 5 foot. The Model X can compete in the SUV market, but it is insanely priced

My biggest issue with Tesla is they are too fast for the crappy drivers out there. You can get a Model 3 or Y performance for about $50,000 before incentives. After incentives you are looking at $40,000 or under with local rebates in California. For $40,000 you get a car that has a 0 to 60 time in 3.1 seconds, which is faster than a Hellcat and costs over half as much to drive than a Prius. I have driven my Model Y P 25,000 miles since I got it in March and have done no maintenance. Not even one visit to any dealership. My tires are staggered, so I can't really rotate them and they are not wearing unevenly. I save time not doing oil changes and pumping gas. Plug the car in at night, unplug, and complete my 150 mile commute for free because of my solar panels and net metering.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

The EV fire argument again. With the number of Cybertrucks made, it is statistically likely that none of them will catch on fire, but I know you are hoping one does. From an insurance website.

The result? Hybrid-powered cars were involved in about 3,475 fires per every 100,000 sold. Gasoline-powered cars, about 1,530. Electric vehicles (EVs) saw just 25 fires per 100,000 sold.

Want to make a bet that a Cybertruck doesn't catch on fire in 2024 and 2025. My guess is 0 catch on fire. What is your guess?

I'm trying to see where I said they catch on fire more. That's right, I didn't. I simply stated the fact that when EV's go up in flames, they take a crap ton more water to put out than a regular gasoline powered vehicle. They also have a greater risk of flareup later.

How can I make an educated bet on something when there will probably be next to no Cybertrucks on the road next year compared to the massive amount of gasoline vehicles, hybrid, and EV cars? How many have been sold and how many will be delivered and used daily by people who bought them. Gove me those numbers and someone could make a better wager.

And by the way, I hope no car ever catches fire. I'd rather not see my friends who are firefighters put at risk or possibly the owners of the vehicle.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Jed Clampett

Media loves to spin nonsense on Tesla as they are the MAJOR threat to the legacy automakers/ Wall Street shorts/ Elon hate etc. Lots of misinformation on the internet ( agenda)
We own two Teslas ( Model 3 & Model X) perfect for daily driving. They provide easy access supercharging network/safety/ tech/ less overall maintenance than ice. The catching fire narrative is so overblown. Fact is % wise ice catches fire more often than a EV.

And most importantly non-Union.

[oldgoldy97]

So from what this thread is telling me, these trucks are basically death on wheels.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

So from what this thread is telling me, these trucks are basically death on wheels.

There are plenty of videos out there you can draw your own conclusion from. I know I will never own one for more reasons than just safety.

[hxcmilkshake]

(Un) related note, dude in Arizona getting soaked for 18k to replace a battery on his 2014 Infiniti hybrid with 76k

I think the dealership said they could maybe do it for $9k after his story was picked up by a local Fox affiliate.

Batteries last 100/150k but after that you may have a paperweight.

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[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

So from what this thread is telling me, these trucks are basically death on wheels.

Any truck or large SUV is death on wheels for the person being hit by it with their normal car. It is much safer for you to be in the large vehicle. The Cybertruck will be safer with its cameras and autopilot on highways. I have almost been sideswiped about 5 times this year on the 99 with truckers or work trucks like F250's texting while driving. Much safer to have lane assist on if you are going to text with a 7000 lb vehicle or higher going 75 mph down the highway.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

(Un) related note, dude in Arizona getting soaked for 18k to replace a battery on his 2014 Infiniti hybrid with 76k

I think the dealership said they could maybe do it for $9k after his story was picked up by a local Fox affiliate.

Batteries last 100/150k but after that you may have a paperweight.

I traded in my 2013 Tesla Model S this year and it had 180,000 plus miles on the original battery and still charged to 88%. I loved that car, but I got use to autopilot with my wife's Model 3 and the 2013 didn't have that ability. Batteries now are much better. More scare tactics here. Only buy a Tesla if you are going EV, they know how to build and monitor batteries.

It is also a hybrid, which means it is a smaller battery. Smaller batteries discharge fully more cycles, which degrades them quicker. Larger batteries don't cycle as much, which means a longer life.

[discodanman45]

Unrelated note. A F150 has a 5 year 60,000 mile drive train warranty. Cost to replace transmission and engine would run around $15,000 to $20,000. Cybertruck has a 8 year 150,000 drivetrain warranty. I can play these games as well. Want me to find a horror story of a F150 that had a engine issue after the warranty was up?

Edit - Two second search from the internet. Ford forums. "ford dealer is asking me to pay $15,000 for engine replacement and workmanship after warranty finished after 1 month."

[Brobocop]

I think the car is cool with a lot of bells and whistles based on the in-depth videos I've seen. The two things holding me back are the price is crazy high (the $60K base model not being AWD is an automatic no from me) and Elon Musk himself. $100k for the top of the line model means no tax credit and with rates where they are, that's going to be akin to having a mortgage payment for a car.

In terms of Musk, I find him annoying but more alarming, I think he tends to over promise and under deliver on a lot of things. Being a first or second gen buyer of the Cybertruck would make me nervous about things we don't know about it that could create headaches down the line. Tesla cars are cool and forward thinking though, glad it's an American company that is pushing the technology even if the CEO is controversial and outspoken.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

In terms of Musk, I find him annoying but more alarming, I think he tends to over promise and under deliver on a lot of things. Being a first or second gen buyer of the Cybertruck would make me nervous about things we don't know about it that could create headaches down the line. Tesla cars are cool and forward thinking though, glad it's an American company that is pushing the technology even if the CEO is controversial and outspoken.

The first generation Model 3 and Model Y had very few problems. They are now an established car company and don't have the issues that the early Model S and X cars went through. My 2013 Model S went through three drive units, it was a huge issue. Drive units are no longer an issue and batteries from Tesla have hardly been an issue for the past decade. The other issue early Tesla's had were the recessing door handles and the window drive units. Had almost every window motor and door handle replaced under warranty. The beauty of an EV is in the simplicity of the drive train. If you have a stable drive unit and battery, there is not much else that can go wrong. The CyberTruck may look completely different, but it is not as different as their other vehicles as you may think.

There will of course be a few annoying things, but Tesla has great service in my area and also will come to my house or workplace to fix most issues. I guarantee the roll cover will cause issues on these early models, just like the early falcon doors on the X. The only other new technology in the CyberTruck is the steer by wire that scares a lot of people. However, Nissan and Toyota have already been selling cards with steer by wire. It is only a big deal when Tesla does it and gives more fuel to the haters.

[TheHeel]

Disco - how does it ride? Pick up is probably insane.

[Jed Clampett]

^^^^
All the newer Teslas are pretty quick most of them three/ four second 0 to 60 and high tens to mid 11 1/4 mile run which will beat the vast of cars on the road if that’s your gig.
They do start to lose power on the top end except for the Plaid versions.

The Tesla plaid is on a whole different level will crush 99.9% of supercars in any racing metric
0-60 1.99
1/4 mile 9.5
and from 60-120 is crazy

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mode...ecs-video/amp/

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Disco - how does it ride? Pick up is probably insane.

The CyberTruck will be available for pick-up between December to March. They are making 10 a day according to reports. It may be a few months until I get mine. Depends on the pecking order. I am only going for the dual motor, which is 0 to 60 in 4.1 seconds. My Model Y P does 0 to 60 in 3.5, which I only do once in awhile. The Cyberbeast is 2.6 seconds, which is stupid and we will hear reports of something horrific happening because of that.

The Model Y P is an amazing car. I love everything about it. The ride is a bit harsh compared to the regular Y, but that is to be expected with the 21 inch wheels. If I had to do it again, I would have gone with the regular Model Y Long Range with the third row seating. It would be useful for when my parents or in-laws would visit, could shove the kids in the back and only take one car. The 19 inch tires last longer, are cheaper, and can be rotated. Those 21" wheels look gorgeous, but the tires will cost me $1500 to replace.

[oldgoldy97]

I’ve thought of putting a different chassis on a Plaid platform, if that’s even possible.

Then smoking some hot rod and making them crap themselves.

[oldgoldy97]

Not a car guy so I probably said all of that wrong but you get the gist.