Since Trout, has any Player had so much hype as Franco? - Page 2

oplum29 · 02-23-2022, 09:21 PM

i remember the buzz on Acuna just a few years ago

edit*

my bad, i read the OP wrong.

i'd go with Harper and Strasburg, no contest.

MOONBASE1 · 02-23-2022, 09:27 PM

Ben Macdonald, Oriole pitcher had some hype early 90's. 1st overall pick in 89 draft.

LCM1223 · 02-23-2022, 09:28 PM

In 2015, every fifth thread created in the baseball section was about Kris Bryant. You weren’t cool if you didn’t start at least 1 KB thread that year.

thewild3 · 02-23-2022, 09:30 PM

You can't compare Trout to Wandermania. Trout wasn't on everyones radar even when 2011 update came out. It took a few pro seasons before Trout was really sought after by everyone. I couldn't sell 2009 Trouts BC Autos at $80 for the longest. I remember doing shows with trouts in my display and only a few people would come ask. Wandermania is more comparable to 2001 when Pujols and Ichrio hit the bigs.

Topps77 · 02-23-2022, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

My collecting experience:

1985 - 2005 Sportscards
2006-2017 Comics
2018- Present Sportscards

So….. I missed Trouts debut, but am here since day 1 on Wander’s debut. My question is….. who was the biggest “can’t miss” in their Prospect/Rookie year? Of any player from 2006-2017, …( the 11 years I was not in our Market ) ….. aside from Trout, and maybe Harper?

Wander is the biggest hype since Bryce Harper

anusinha · 02-23-2022, 09:43 PM

Yeah, Wander is on Harper/Strausburg level hype

Foo3112 · 02-23-2022, 09:54 PM

Strasburg & Harper both came way more hype than Trout. Wander is pretty good from what we've seen but not enough to be all in. He is a complete gamble at the moment imo.

MoreToppsPlease · 02-23-2022, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

My collecting experience:

1985 - 2005 Sportscards
2006-2017 Comics
2018- Present Sportscards

So….. I missed Trouts debut, but am here since day 1 on Wander’s debut. My question is….. who was the biggest “can’t miss” in their Prospect/Rookie year? Of any player from 2006-2017, …( the 11 years I was not in our Market ) ….. aside from Trout, and maybe Harper?

Every 6-12 months there’s at least one new can’t-miss guy. Every 12 months flippers proclaim that year’s young talent is the best of a generation.

Granted all of this is driven by people who live off the hobby and/or are looking for a big score.

Robles Fan · 02-23-2022, 10:47 PM

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rwperu34 · 02-23-2022, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Every 6-12 months there’s at least one new can’t-miss guy. Every 12 months flippers proclaim that year’s young talent is the best of a generation.

Granted all of this is driven by people who live off the hobby and/or are looking for a big score.

Well, since 2011-2012 when Trout and Harper entered the league it has been a non stop barrage of elite young talent coming in. Trout, Harper, Machado, Lindor, Correa, Acuna, Soto, Vlad, Tatis, Wander. This has been an "up" era for that type of thing.

If you don't believe me look at the crap from about 2000 to through 2012. It was guys like Bruce, the Uptons, Heyward, Blalock, Burroughs. Some good players in there for sure, but not many 22 year old all star and MVP caliber players. I mean Upton and Heyward were almost to that level as prospects, and Upton the Young at least looked like he was going to get there for a little while, but those guys all pale in comparison to the young MLB production we've seen over the last decade or so.

Also look in to the future. There will be zero 20 year old superstar debuts this year. The next best bet is really The Martian and for that to happen he'd really have to break out. Obviously somebody can come out of nowhere and all of a sudden be a 20 year old star in The Show, but it's not that likely. We normally see it coming because the guys who are stars at 20 are typically the elite prospects.

There will always be hype, but for the last decade or so the talent has matched...or exceeded...the hype.

JWBlue · 02-23-2022, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

When I think of ‘hype’, I think of guys who hadn’t made the bigs yet (or maybe had just a handful of ABs and haven’t exhausted their rookie status yet)?

Some good names have been mentioned already… what about Gregg Jefferies, Yasiel Puig, and Dice-K?

The hype for Jefferies was amazing. He was as can't miss as they come. Of course he was a relative bust.

rngrdanny22 · 02-23-2022, 11:03 PM

Back in 2014 with the Kris Bryant hype raging, there was a good few months of Jose Abreu.

Ike123 · 02-23-2022, 11:17 PM

2013 Puig

rwperu34 · 02-23-2022, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

The hype for Jefferies was amazing. He was as can't miss as they come. Of course he was a relative bust.

Jeffries and Vlad are basically the best minor league players in my lifetime for 19 in AA, both better than Trout who himself was a stud in AA at 19. I'd rank it

1) Vlad
2) Jeffries
3) Trout

Keep in mind that Griffey, Harper, and Soto were already starting in The Show by 19.

BeastMode27 · 02-23-2022, 11:24 PM

I would argue as a Rays prospect Longoria had as much hype as Wander. He also exceeded expectations his first season, winning ROY, being an all star, finishing with MVP votes. 4.8 war in 120 games. Also had 6 homers and an OPS near 1.100 through two playoff series before hitting a brick wall in the World Series.
He was the most asked for name at all shows etc. How them Longoria cards doing now?

Rage · 02-23-2022, 11:30 PM

JASSON

coltsnsox07 · 02-23-2022, 11:35 PM

I used to think a guy playing in Tampa was hobby poison but not anymore.

2005nfldraft · 02-23-2022, 11:39 PM

Oh, wow. Someone said Delmon Young. That’s a deep cut. You could get his BCDP auto for like $5 now. I remember that card being the toast of Beckett, Tuff Stuff and every collectible magazine for many months. A cautionary tale…

Longoria hype was way up there, too. And like someone else said, Longoria nearly lived up to the hype and if you invested in him, you’re likely taking a big hit.

I think Harper and Heyward outrank Franco’s hype but I would put Franco ahead of most others. His hype really is nuts right now.

StlBen · 02-23-2022, 11:49 PM

Judge.

Chaotic30 · 02-24-2022, 12:10 AM

I know Puig was mentioned but his hype was crazy. I sold one of his regular insert cards for 32 dollars. It's now a 10 cent card or whatever. Also traded one of his chrome autos for a Michael Jordan rookie.. one of the better trades I've ever done.

daeve · 02-24-2022, 12:21 AM

I think post-draft, Mark Prior was probably the most hyped I've ever seen. The first $10 million guy out of the draft, highest until Strasburg came along - but with the frenzy of the Cubs die-hards behind him. Only 9 starts in the minors, came up to Wrigley in May and K'd 10 in his debut with the W. It was Prior-insanity during those months.

cardsin47 · 02-24-2022, 12:27 AM

clocsta2323 · 02-24-2022, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

It just doesn’t / didn’t seem right that I could have been gone so long (2006-2017 ), and since I came back just in time for Acuna / Soto / Vlad / Tatis, and went retro-actively to collect Trout, that there was really no-one else in between / nothing really missed.
Seems like a long drought of historically significant Talent during those years, but ‘it is what it is’

Franco isn't historically significant.. neither is Acuna/Soto/Vlad/Tatis. Not yet. Come on man.

Mooch1 · 02-24-2022, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Franco isn't historically significant.. neither is Acuna/Soto/Vlad/Tatis. Not yet. Come on man.

Oh myyyyyyyy there gonna blast you for that bra!!!!
Rotfl

cardsin47 · 02-24-2022, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Franco isn't historically significant.. neither is Acuna/Soto/Vlad/Tatis. Not yet. Come on man.

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thewild3 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,061	You can't compare Trout to Wandermania. Trout wasn't on everyones radar even when 2011 update came out. It took a few pro seasons before Trout was really sought after by everyone. I couldn't sell 2009 Trouts BC Autos at $80 for the longest. I remember doing shows with trouts in my display and only a few people would come ask. Wandermania is more comparable to 2001 when Pujols and Ichrio hit the bigs. __________________ If you got time to sell cards, then make time to ship them out in a timely manner!!!!!!

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MOONBASE1 Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,125	Ben Macdonald, Oriole pitcher had some hype early 90's. 1st overall pick in 89 draft.

02-23-2022, 09:43 PM	#31
anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,852	Yeah, Wander is on Harper/Strausburg level hype

02-23-2022, 09:54 PM	#32
Foo3112 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 837	Strasburg & Harper both came way more hype than Trout. Wander is pretty good from what we've seen but not enough to be all in. He is a complete gamble at the moment imo.

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02-23-2022, 11:03 PM	#37
rngrdanny22 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 12,372	Back in 2014 with the Kris Bryant hype raging, there was a good few months of Jose Abreu.

02-23-2022, 11:17 PM	#38
Ike123 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 87	2013 Puig

02-23-2022, 11:24 PM	#40
BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	I would argue as a Rays prospect Longoria had as much hype as Wander. He also exceeded expectations his first season, winning ROY, being an all star, finishing with MVP votes. 4.8 war in 120 games. Also had 6 homers and an OPS near 1.100 through two playoff series before hitting a brick wall in the World Series. He was the most asked for name at all shows etc. How them Longoria cards doing now?

02-23-2022, 11:35 PM	#42
coltsnsox07 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 22,362	I used to think a guy playing in Tampa was hobby poison but not anymore.

02-23-2022, 11:39 PM	#43
2005nfldraft Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 75	Oh, wow. Someone said Delmon Young. That’s a deep cut. You could get his BCDP auto for like $5 now. I remember that card being the toast of Beckett, Tuff Stuff and every collectible magazine for many months. A cautionary tale… Longoria hype was way up there, too. And like someone else said, Longoria nearly lived up to the hype and if you invested in him, you’re likely taking a big hit. I think Harper and Heyward outrank Franco’s hype but I would put Franco ahead of most others. His hype really is nuts right now.

02-23-2022, 11:49 PM	#44
StlBen Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: St Louis Posts: 1,140 Stl_tophits	Judge.

02-24-2022, 12:10 AM	#45
Chaotic30 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 696	I know Puig was mentioned but his hype was crazy. I sold one of his regular insert cards for 32 dollars. It's now a 10 cent card or whatever. Also traded one of his chrome autos for a Michael Jordan rookie.. one of the better trades I've ever done.

02-24-2022, 12:21 AM	#46
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,190 accrules	I think post-draft, Mark Prior was probably the most hyped I've ever seen. The first $10 million guy out of the draft, highest until Strasburg came along - but with the frenzy of the Cubs die-hards behind him. Only 9 starts in the minors, came up to Wrigley in May and K'd 10 in his debut with the W. It was Prior-insanity during those months.