WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Master Shake

I think it would have made more sense to have Jade attack Bianca and have Cargill vs. Bel-Air at Mania. Naomi being the one who attacked just doesn't do it for me.

I don't think it will be. I think Jade will just assume Naomi did it without proof.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by packman80

AJ has been out what over a decade now? Don't see any appeal in her coming back.

I mean im not an AJ mark but Punk is still asked about it in almost every interview and her and Paige are basically the Lita/Trish of that era so she'd at least get those level pops especially her first match in a decade. I dont want her to win the title or anything though

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Master Shake

I kind of feel like they're setting up Punk vs. Rollins vs. Paul

Thinking we'll see McIntyre vs. Priest now.

yeah 100% we get Priest vs Drew at WM which is a throw away match for Drew and is just a match to have him on the card nothing more.

[packman80]

See they never showed Drake who had front row seats right behind the announcers.

[ThatGuyPal]

So we got likely for sure at Mania

-Randy vs KO
-Cody Vs Cena
-Jey Vs Gunther
-Charlotte Vs Tiffany
-Rhea Vs Bianca
-Priest Vs Drew

?

[packman80]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

So we got likely for sure at Mania

-Randy vs KO
-Cody Vs Cena
-Jey Vs Gunther
-Charlotte Vs Tiffany
-Rhea Vs Bianca
-Priest Vs Drew

?

Ladder match for tag titles again? DIY vs Street Profits vs MCMG vs Pretty Deadly vs Los Garza

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

I think he'll end as somewhat babyface at least as well, even if a simple handshake after last match respect thing but i'm not expert on his acting career but is this any different than if he plays a bad/evil character in a movie? Not sure if he has or will for those reasons but getting into full-time acting if he plays a villain in some pg-13 movie i dont think it ruins the MAW career.

Because he does so much of the make a wish stuff as John Cena, the wrestling character. Yes, it's kayfabe, but you generally don't have the bad guys going and doing feel good stuff.

[packman80]

See the WWE has put Cody saying Go F yourself on X without it being beeped.

[packman80]

Cena PC picks up mic drops it and walks out.

[whitmm]

Cena walked into the press conference, sat down, mic dropped, and left

[Cracktoast]

lmao @ John Cena doing his best CM Punk imitation

[JustinVerlander07]

Cena heel turn is something nobody expected, and him joining heel Rock HAS to have you intrigued. I'm excited for it.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Because he does so much of the make a wish stuff as John Cena, the wrestling character. Yes, it's kayfabe, but you generally don't have the bad guys going and doing feel good stuff.

Yeah your right, at the same time it's never been highly publicized when he does that and I'm sure even Hogan during his two year heel run still met with some kids etc who saw him as a hero still.

[cardtrader22]

So could just be a complete accident but when rock came out in Atlanta PLE after Cody/Roman won their tag match he did the 1-2-3 thing but when he held up three he switched fingers to hold up three fingers the same way Cena does.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by cardtrader22

So could just be a complete accident but when rock came out in Atlanta PLE after Cody/Roman won their tag match he did the 1-2-3 thing but when he held up three he switched fingers to hold up three fingers the same way Cena does.

Rock is saying in the press conference it was longterm storytelling and mentioned how he got a lot of criticism initially for it.

Also, again. Dirt sheets were wrong saying he wouldn't be around for Mania and his appearance at Bad Blood was going to lead to nothing.

[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Cena heel turn is something nobody expected, and him joining heel Rock HAS to have you intrigued. I'm excited for it.

unexpected yes intrigued or excited absolutely not. Could give 2 craps about where this goes outside of I hope we get Austin at some point. Otherwise I have never cared for Cena and always found him boring and arrogant outside of the make a wish stuff.

[whitmm]

Rock gets called out his face/heel confusion and his response is basically I'll do whatever I want to do.

Part time Rock needs to be no time Rock.

[BlowoutBuzz]

[no10pin]

Loved the show tonight, very unpredictable which is always good.

My least favorite part was the barbed wire chair in the Owens/Zayn match. There is literally no chance that all of that happens without Owens so much as getting a scratch on him. There was no reason to even introduce that if they can't make it somewhat believable.

I would have assumed that it was the no blood thing, but that went out the window later on.

[bjho852]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Many people forget Cena entered the WWE as a heel.

Things have come full circle.

I thought that Cena's first WWE match is against Kurt Angle? Cena was a face at that time.

[Anarchy99]

Originally Posted by packman80

So guess Cena comes out says that Rock convinced him that what's best for business is him as WWE champ and it's nothing against Cody it's just business.

Only they are doing record business in the last year while Cody's been champion so that doesn't make any sense

[jmarascojr]

- Cena beats Cody at Wrestlemania
- Roman Reigns wins the MITB.
- Punk cashes in his "favor" and makes Roman give him the briefcase.
- Punk can't beat Cena
- Roman beats Cena in Boston at the last PLE of the year, Cena says goodbye and the "torch" is passed again to Roman...

Also, if you listen to Bianca's theme music, the lyrics are pretty condescending, they are perfect for a heel turn "I never needed you at all"

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Rock gets called out his face/heel confusion and his response is basically I'll do whatever I want to do.

Part time Rock needs to be no time Rock.

i thought he actually made it come around nicely. I had forgotten about his ppv walk out, slash throat like taker, leave gimmick and thought it was pointless Rock posturing at the time. Lie or not him bringing it back around to tn was smart and makes possibly not long-term storytelling look long. To me the confusion came off Vince-like all "HEY PAL" for Netflix but deep down still Final Boss plus they think they are the good guys so it makes sense until something else was "best for business" he doesn't even need to say Netflix debut era was fake just things changed.

My logic breach is what happened if Cody said yes? Does Cena stillll attack? was it already decided his dream is over?? I mean it can be explained Rock knew he wouldn't sell his soul but I always wonder about these "choices" where someone is beat down due to their answer lol like what if they agreed

[packman80]

So was Sami Zayn legit beat up going into the match and needed some time off heal up or is he just getting some R&R time with the family? Figure with the beating he took they keep him off TV thru WM and bring him back after that? He does not need to be part of the KO and Orton feud.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by packman80

I can't see John Cena turn heel not in his last run

Helen Keller saw this coming.....Cena has always done what was asked of him.