WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1900

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:29 PM

Heel Travis Scott? this is fn insane

packman80 · 03-01-2025, 10:29 PM

It has to be what about 20 years since Cena was a heel as the Dr of Thuganomics?

cdub6238 · 03-01-2025, 10:31 PM

I'm confused..

On the 1 hand...it doesn't hurt Cena 1 bit, since this is his last "run"..

On the other hand..it makes no sense for Cena...as his whole schtick has been "last time is now" with his merch and fan service..why switch now?

packman80 · 03-01-2025, 10:32 PM

So Cena wins at WM and then Punk wins MITB and uses it to get a match at SummerSlam and pins Cena to win the title?

Dacubs2 · 03-01-2025, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

I'm confused..

On the 1 hand...it doesn't hurt Cena 1 bit, since this is his last "run"..

On the other hand..it makes no sense for Cena...as his whole schtick has been "last time is now" with his merch and fan service..why switch now?

guess just going for shock value since face cena vs cody seemed pretty boring

Cracktoast · 03-01-2025, 10:33 PM

if this doesn't end in Rock/Cena and Austin/Rhodes it's a total fail. Have the cards stacked against Cody at WM then the glass shatters and the roof comes off.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

It has to be what about 20 years since Cena was a heel as the Dr of Thuganomics?

yep which is why I was surprised people doubted a heel turn, people act like hes been eternally face now they can forget a heel run it doesnt ruin him with kids, thats prob why Bianca agreed as well. Look at Seth he goes from tweener to heel to face and still is super popular whenever he is strong face.

Jaypers · 03-01-2025, 10:33 PM

Many people forget Cena entered the WWE as a heel.

Things have come full circle.

packman80 · 03-01-2025, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

I'm confused..

On the 1 hand...it doesn't hurt Cena 1 bit, since this is his last "run"..

On the other hand..it makes no sense for Cena...as his whole schtick has been "last time is now" with his merch and fan service..why switch now?

Only thing is I think is blowoff is last match ever in December is Cena vs Rock. Rock acts like he owns Cena and Cena finally turns back face and those two end Cena's in ring career together.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:35 PM

It's also almost like a passing of the torch eventually as the next big babyface from Cena to Cody, it makes no sense for cody to turn when he is about to be the new Cena.

Master Shake · 03-01-2025, 10:36 PM

I am actually beyond shocked Cena turned heel on his retirement run. I mean I like it but now his 17th world title win won't be a huge deal because he'll be boo'd.

The angle makes sense now. He'll come out and say he knows he could never beat Cody at his age and needed to join The Rock to ensure he wins his 17th world title because "it's best for business"

Jaypers · 03-01-2025, 10:38 PM

Punk still has a favor to cash in from Heyman. Seeing as how Rollins stomped him after being eliminated, and as Punk never tapped out, he could have Heyman convince HHH (or Aldis) to add him to the Cena/Cody match.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

I'm confused..

On the 1 hand...it doesn't hurt Cena 1 bit, since this is his last "run"..

On the other hand..it makes no sense for Cena...as his whole schtick has been "last time is now" with his merch and fan service..why switch now?

I doubt that changes, the last time is still now hence the desperation. It also prob doesnt hurt merch much, we forget as most of us aren't kids or teens kids have moved on to Cody etc, the people buying the specific city last time is now merch is prob the same other than maybe an uneducated parent who doesnt know and see's him cut a rude heel promo at an event.

packman80 · 03-01-2025, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Punk still has a favor to cash in from Heyman. Seeing as how Rollins stomped him after being eliminated, and as Punk never tapped out, he could have Heyman convince HHH to add him to the Cena/Cody match.

Nope Punk needs to stay out of that match. It's going to be triple threat of Punk/Rollins/Roman

scfa1975 · 03-01-2025, 10:40 PM

At least The Rock didn't use the term "Momma Rhodes" again.

For someone who cannot watch weekly anymore I thought that was a pretty good close to the show. Travis Scott over in the corner doing his own thing with his spray. The Rock in his pj's and Cena doing all the dirty work.

packman80 · 03-01-2025, 10:41 PM

They need to have someone in the press ask Cena about his legacy and letting down the people the young kids and then Cena pulls a Jordan and says **** them kids.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:42 PM

I knew it wasn't gonna happen but for more madness the pop Roman's music would of got during the beatdown would of been insane. What does he do at Mania? Triple threat wit Punk/Rollins? Speaking of pipe dream but I'd love if AJ has secretly been training and they did Punk/AJ vs Becky/Seth, I actually think that would make it one of the more popular matches on the card.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

They need to have someone in the press ask Cena about his legacy and letting down the people the young kids and then Cena pulls a Jordan and says **** them kids.

LOL

I told em never give up not never cheat, I showed hustle, loyalty and respect to the company that made me.

whitmm · 03-01-2025, 10:44 PM

Cena will end his career back as a Babyface. You can't have heel Cena out there doing all those Make-A-Wish appearances.

Do we think he was going back after the show to see the MAW kid he met with earlier in the day?

Master Shake · 03-01-2025, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Nope Punk needs to stay out of that match. It's going to be triple threat of Punk/Rollins/Roman

I kind of feel like they're setting up Punk vs. Rollins vs. Paul

Thinking we'll see McIntyre vs. Priest now.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:47 PM

While again fan memory spans are short the one thing I'm surprised about if Bianca is turning heel as well is her and Cena are both huge with kids different demographics obviously but turning them both at the same time is abit surprising.

whitmm · 03-01-2025, 10:51 PM

I don't understand why everyone thinks that Punk's favor cash in is going to be like a MITB cash in. It's not going to be used to be used to turn an existing match into a triple threat match.

Master Shake · 03-01-2025, 10:51 PM

I think it would have made more sense to have Jade attack Bianca and have Cargill vs. Bel-Air at Mania. Naomi being the one who attacked just doesn't do it for me.

packman80 · 03-01-2025, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

I knew it wasn't gonna happen but for more madness the pop Roman's music would of got during the beatdown would of been insane. What does he do at Mania? Triple threat wit Punk/Rollins? Speaking of pipe dream but I'd love if AJ has secretly been training and they did Punk/AJ vs Becky/Seth, I actually think that would make it one of the more popular matches on the card.

AJ has been out what over a decade now? Don't see any appeal in her coming back.

ThatGuyPal · 03-01-2025, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

Cena will end his career back as a Babyface. You can't have heel Cena out there doing all those Make-A-Wish appearances.

Do we think he was going back after the show to see the MAW kid he met with earlier in the day?

I think he'll end as somewhat babyface at least as well, even if a simple handshake after last match respect thing but i'm not expert on his acting career but is this any different than if he plays a bad/evil character in a movie? Not sure if he has or will for those reasons but getting into full-time acting if he plays a villain in some pg-13 movie i dont think it ruins the MAW career.

03-01-2025, 10:33 PM	#47483
Jaypers Bowman Scout Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 50,689 cardboardconglomerate	Many people forget Cena entered the WWE as a heel. Things have come full circle. __________________ Impervious to baiting.

03-01-2025, 10:38 PM	#47487
Jaypers Bowman Scout Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 50,689 cardboardconglomerate	Punk still has a favor to cash in from Heyman. Seeing as how Rollins stomped him after being eliminated, and as Punk never tapped out, he could have Heyman convince HHH (or Aldis) to add him to the Cena/Cody match. __________________ Impervious to baiting.

03-01-2025, 10:29 PM	#47476
ThatGuyPal Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 3,689	Heel Travis Scott? this is fn insane

03-01-2025, 10:29 PM	#47477
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,720	It has to be what about 20 years since Cena was a heel as the Dr of Thuganomics?

03-01-2025, 10:31 PM	#47478
cdub6238 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15,772	I'm confused.. On the 1 hand...it doesn't hurt Cena 1 bit, since this is his last "run".. On the other hand..it makes no sense for Cena...as his whole schtick has been "last time is now" with his merch and fan service..why switch now?

03-01-2025, 10:32 PM	#47479
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,720	So Cena wins at WM and then Punk wins MITB and uses it to get a match at SummerSlam and pins Cena to win the title?

03-01-2025, 10:33 PM	#47481
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,552	if this doesn't end in Rock/Cena and Austin/Rhodes it's a total fail. Have the cards stacked against Cody at WM then the glass shatters and the roof comes off.

03-01-2025, 10:35 PM	#47485
ThatGuyPal Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 3,689	It's also almost like a passing of the torch eventually as the next big babyface from Cena to Cody, it makes no sense for cody to turn when he is about to be the new Cena.

03-01-2025, 10:36 PM	#47486
Master Shake Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,101 mastershaketoyou	I am actually beyond shocked Cena turned heel on his retirement run. I mean I like it but now his 17th world title win won't be a huge deal because he'll be boo'd. The angle makes sense now. He'll come out and say he knows he could never beat Cody at his age and needed to join The Rock to ensure he wins his 17th world title because "it's best for business"

03-01-2025, 10:40 PM	#47490
scfa1975 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 329	At least The Rock didn't use the term "Momma Rhodes" again. For someone who cannot watch weekly anymore I thought that was a pretty good close to the show. Travis Scott over in the corner doing his own thing with his spray. The Rock in his pj's and Cena doing all the dirty work.

03-01-2025, 10:41 PM	#47491
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,720	They need to have someone in the press ask Cena about his legacy and letting down the people the young kids and then Cena pulls a Jordan and says **** them kids.

03-01-2025, 10:42 PM	#47492
ThatGuyPal Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 3,689	I knew it wasn't gonna happen but for more madness the pop Roman's music would of got during the beatdown would of been insane. What does he do at Mania? Triple threat wit Punk/Rollins? Speaking of pipe dream but I'd love if AJ has secretly been training and they did Punk/AJ vs Becky/Seth, I actually think that would make it one of the more popular matches on the card.

03-01-2025, 10:44 PM	#47494
whitmm Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Wisc Posts: 11,373	Cena will end his career back as a Babyface. You can't have heel Cena out there doing all those Make-A-Wish appearances. Do we think he was going back after the show to see the MAW kid he met with earlier in the day?

03-01-2025, 10:47 PM	#47496
ThatGuyPal Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 3,689	While again fan memory spans are short the one thing I'm surprised about if Bianca is turning heel as well is her and Cena are both huge with kids different demographics obviously but turning them both at the same time is abit surprising.

03-01-2025, 10:51 PM	#47497
whitmm Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Wisc Posts: 11,373	I don't understand why everyone thinks that Punk's favor cash in is going to be like a MITB cash in. It's not going to be used to be used to turn an existing match into a triple threat match.

03-01-2025, 10:51 PM	#47498
Master Shake Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,101 mastershaketoyou	I think it would have made more sense to have Jade attack Bianca and have Cargill vs. Bel-Air at Mania. Naomi being the one who attacked just doesn't do it for me.