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Old 12-18-2020, 08:16 AM   #426
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My buddy had 3 show up today that were all for 17-18 Optic fast break. He was very happy as these were better then the sticker autos he was supposed to get. Mine still shows out for delivery today.

the top left auto to me sure looks odd, you have the 2 other auto's right next to it that look way different then it
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:06 AM   #427
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I’ve noticed Kobe /10 impeccables from 2019-2020 redemptions have a silver foil.


From my understanding, /10 autographs from Impeccable are considered to be gold, just a little observation.
/10 shot signature is base, I don’t think that’s silver holo, just regular silver I think. /5 is silver holo and /3 is gold holo.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:37 AM   #428
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It's amazing how much a little transparency would do for Panini. Instead, it's a continual guessing game, non-existent customer service, greed, and in my opinion a complete lack of respect for their customers. Very few business models could be as successful as they have been given how they treat their customers.
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Sounds like Topps is the same in baseball and upper deck in hockey, although I have no experience in those arenas

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Old 12-18-2020, 10:48 AM   #429
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/10 shot signature is base, I don’t think that’s silver holo, just regular silver I think. /5 is silver holo and /3 is gold holo.
Impeccable really has a weird way of numbering and distinguish their sets as I found out.

Some /10 can be a gold holo, while at the same time other /10 are silvers.

The latest Kobe redemptions are the same. /10 are silvers /15 are regulars and /3 are gold. Only consistent is 1/1 which is platinum.


https://www.beckett.com/news/2019-20...ketball-cards/

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Old 12-18-2020, 10:58 AM   #430
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Impeccable really has a weird way of numbering and distinguish their sets as I found out.

Some /10 can be a gold holo, while at the same time other /10 are silvers.

The latest Kobe redemptions are the same. /10 are silvers /15 are regulars and /3 are gold. Only consistent is 1/1 which is platinum.


https://www.beckett.com/news/2019-20...ketball-cards/
Base can be /15 (illustrious ink, Canvas Creations) or /10 (Ultimate Victory, Indelible Ink, Imoeccable shots) from what I have seen. Silver holos are /5 and gold holos are /3 and of course platinum 1/1.
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Base can be /15 (illustrious ink, Canvas Creations) or /10 (Ultimate Victory, Indelible Ink, Imoeccable shots) from what I have seen. Silver holos are /5 and gold holos are /3 and of course platinum 1/1.
Thanks for clarifying that. I’m still confused, some indelible are /99. If /10 are base, what are those?

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Old 12-18-2020, 11:09 AM   #432
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Anyway, 2 new Impeccable sold last night.

The Indelible 2/10 is a good deal considering how much limited Kobe redemptions are going for. I was going to haggle a bit with the seller to see if there’s room for negotiation but it sold too damn fast, I never had a chance.


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Old 12-18-2020, 11:35 AM   #433
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Anyone’s delivered today yet? Mine is on the truck for delivery by noon supposedly.. but requires a signature.. and I’m at work
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:40 AM   #434
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Anyone’s delivered today yet? Mine is on the truck for delivery by noon supposedly.. but requires a signature.. and I’m at work
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:43 AM   #435
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Touché.
If it saves just one life....
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:47 AM   #436
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:55 AM   #438
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F&^* I'm getting a pack too I have a feeling. I could puke.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:58 AM   #439
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The fact that they are tossing ONE pack is what is ridiculous. Every basic redemption should at least be 2-3 packs. 5 cards to replace a Kobe auto is absolutely ridiculous, especially when the odds are astronomical that you hit a top tier rookie. If I end up getting a pack as my replacement, I will be 1000% selling it as they should go for a couple hundred at a minimum.
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Dang he was pissed. Swiped them bad boys straight off the table.
Yikes.
I also am not going to be a jolly fella if it’s a pack
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Old 12-18-2020, 12:08 PM   #441
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That's some ultra bullspit. 1. Why ship that pack overnight? 2. They need to notify the people who are getting a pack so that they don't have their hopes crushed.

I feel really bad for him...
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Old 12-18-2020, 12:10 PM   #442
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That's some ultra bullspit. 1. Why ship that pack overnight? 2. They need to notify the people who are getting a pack so that they don't have their hopes crushed.

I feel really bad for him...
Wow! Absolutely terrible. No excuse for sending people this crap.
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Old 12-18-2020, 12:15 PM   #443
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On the Kobe pack description it says one gets 5 cards plus one Kobe highlights card. Where is the Kobe card?
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Old 12-18-2020, 12:17 PM   #444
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That last picture doesn't show the Kobe card that is supposed to be included in the pack. Did you leave that one out on purpose? Yes, that's a rough pack, but one of the big draws of this set is supposed to be the Kobe parallels, and the chance at pulling one of the big rookies.

leaving out one card isn't giving people the full picture. Interested to see what Kobe you got (and what resale is on those).
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That last picture doesn't show the Kobe card that is supposed to be included in the pack. Did you leave that one out on purpose? Yes, that's a rough pack, but one of the big draws of this set is supposed to be the Kobe parallels, and the chance at pulling one of the big rookies.

leaving out one card isn't giving people the full picture. Interested to see what Kobe you got (and what resale is on those).
I disagree. The Kobe can be a /10 and it doesn't excuse the fact that they created yet 3 or 4 more parallels of a mid tier set with the full checklist of scrub rc and vets. Hell there can be 10 cards in there. It's embarrassing and nauseating. But what can we do? Call them?
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That last picture doesn't show the Kobe card that is supposed to be included in the pack. Did you leave that one out on purpose? Yes, that's a rough pack, but one of the big draws of this set is supposed to be the Kobe parallels, and the chance at pulling one of the big rookies.

leaving out one card isn't giving people the full picture. Interested to see what Kobe you got (and what resale is on those).
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I disagree. The Kobe can be a /10 and it doesn't excuse the fact that they created yet 3 or 4 more parallels of a mid tier set with the full checklist of scrub rc and vets. Hell there can be 10 cards in there. It's embarrassing and nauseating. But what can we do? Call them?
Yeah, those inserts aren’t really going for much anyway unless its a Gold, Black Gold, Peacock, Nebula or Galactic parallel.
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Yeah, those inserts aren’t really going for much anyway unless its a Gold, Black Gold, Peacock, Nebula or Galactic parallel.
I BELIEVE the most any card is numbered to is /24 w /8 and 1/1 parallelsBUT I could be wrong...it IS Panini after all, and still shouldn't replace a low #'d autograph of one of the greatest to ever play the game
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Old 12-18-2020, 12:57 PM   #450
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Lawsuit Against Panini If got this pack..
This is failure for redemption card. They make theses cards. Self-inflicted consequences
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