Panini America Announces Plan to Address Kobe Bryant Autograph Redemptions

[Dame]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

No panini card made will compare to the upper deck chronology cards

I agree with this being that I own a 07-08 Kobe Chronology auto but the prices on these last Impeccable Kobe Auto’s suggest otherwise.

[shakobe]

Originally Posted by Dame

I agree with this being that I own a 07-08 Kobe Chronology auto but the prices on these last Impeccable Kobe Auto’s suggest otherwise.

As in fact i will trade my chronology auto for a Kobe victory signatures or illustrious ink /5 or /3

[Dame]

Originally Posted by shakobe

As in fact i will trade my chronology auto for a Kobe victory signatures or illustrious ink /5 or /3

Yes.

Especially the Victory Signatures. I still have vivid memories when Kobe sank that Game Winner.

[yimfinity]

Originally Posted by shakobe

As in fact i will trade my chronology auto for a Kobe victory signatures or illustrious ink /5 or /3

not the /15 variant?

[shakobe]

Originally Posted by yimfinity

not the /15 variant?

Haven’t seen any of those yet. But yes will trade any of my Kobe chronology /99 for the /15 but maybe not the chronolgy /10 (which i will trade for /5 or /3 only)


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[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by Petealonso1

So whos at fault then Mr Know it All, so your saying Panini is legally validating the auto on the back of the card but is having anyone that the athelete wants to witness him signing, and Panini is taking the word for it and your claiming the forgeries that they have gotten over the years they arent responsable for, well your off your panini ass kissing rocker. Panini is making the money, the product, and the STATING the authenticity on the back of the card, they are liable period. And I didnt say Vanesa made a secratary signature type deal, I said its possible.

Again this is what every company does, you just seem to overlook this. Panini corrected the Dak issue, they took responsibility as did Dak’s team. Look at the Orville set just came out Seth McFarlane was an autopen.

Again his estate and his widow is not going to commit multiple federal felonies, stop with the crazy.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by Dame

One thing I wonder is how these last autographs will be viewed by collectors. Some of these are selling near Exqusite Patch Auto prices.

I wonder if there's going to be market adjustment on these, ,likely not.


1/1 and /5 are all selling for insane, INSANE $$$ and the /10 on card auto trumps some of Kobe's most popular autos with Upper Deck (Chronology, Ultimate Signature etc).

Short term will be high but I think the Exquisite will remain the king.

[kobemagee29]

Originally Posted by Dame

I agree with this being that I own a 07-08 Kobe Chronology auto but the prices on these last Impeccable Kobe Auto’s suggest otherwise.

price means nothing, i have a huge Kobe PC and i have no interest the impeccable auto's. Why anyone is paying that much is beyond me.

[Dame]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Short term will be high but I think the Exquisite will remain the king.

As far as patch auto's, Exquisites will forever be at the very top, I agree very much.


But as far as autographs only, the last year Impeccable Kobe's vs UD Chronology, Ultimate Signatures, etc, I'm not too sure.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by Dame

As far as patch auto's, Exquisites will forever be at the very top, I agree very much.


But as far as autographs only, the last year Impeccable Kobe's vs UD Chronology, Ultimate Signatures, etc, I'm not too sure.

Chronology still going to be above these to me.

[thekiddfan]

Wow..

Someone got an impeccable /15 replacement for a cornerstones auto..

I had 2 shipping notifications last nite.. a Cont. Optic red and vanguard purple. Hope they r autos rather than packs

Still have an Optic gold /10 17/18 not fulfilled though

[kobemagee29]

Originally Posted by Dame

As far as patch auto's, Exquisites will forever be at the very top, I agree very much.


But as far as autographs only, the last year Impeccable Kobe's vs UD Chronology, Ultimate Signatures, etc, I'm not too sure.

this card will sell way better then any panini card made of Kobe
2007-08 NBA CHRONOLOGY TIMELESS MEMORIES- GOLD #ED TO 10 CD #-132
i had the amzing card and had it graded a bgs 9.5, but like a idiot, i sold it years ago.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

this card will sell way better then any panini card made of Kobe
2007-08 NBA CHRONOLOGY TIMELESS MEMORIES- GOLD #ED TO 10 CD #-132
i had the amzing card and had it graded a bgs 9.5, but like a idiot, i sold it years ago.

Pulled one years ago and sold it as well. That a auto patch /15 and a /99 chronology.

[Dnic]

Guess I will see what I'm getting tomorrow it's being mailed overnight and was for a 2019-20 Prizm mojo #/25 Kobe auto even if it's a sticker auto I will be happy. Also the email notification I recieved didn't specify anything about a replacement so I'm assuming it's the actual card I was supposed to get?

[Dame]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

this card will sell way better then any panini card made of Kobe
2007-08 NBA CHRONOLOGY TIMELESS MEMORIES- GOLD #ED TO 10 CD #-132
i had the amzing card and had it graded a bgs 9.5, but like a idiot, i sold it years ago.

I feel your pain my friend. I had plenty of UD Kobe's in the mid 2000's. No one of course foresaw that he'll be taken away this early.

[M4YH3M1]

Originally Posted by Petealonso1

I am saying this Kobe auto is fake, and doesnt look right to me IMO

You are a fool. Please leave.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

No panini card made will compare to the upper deck chronology cards

In YOUR opinion.

I personally hate cards that have a drawing of the player rather than a photo.
And I don't like the patch ones that were so heavily tampered with.
I would take my 2012 Flawless Greats patch auto over ANY Chronology card 100% of the time.

[jjohnson114]

Originally Posted by Dnic

Guess I will see what I'm getting tomorrow it's being mailed overnight and was for a 2019-20 Prizm mojo #/25 Kobe auto even if it's a sticker auto I will be happy. Also the email notification I recieved didn't specify anything about a replacement so I'm assuming it's the actual card I was supposed to get?

This is interesting. I have a 2019-20 gold /10 and blue shimmer (likely to /35 or less) outstanding and have yet to hear anything. Please keep us posted.

If this is an actual auto it likely throws the theory that Panini is redeeming the active redemptions in a methodical manner (1/1, /3, /5, and by year etc.) out the window. We shall see.

[Dame]

I’ve noticed Kobe /10 impeccables from 2019-2020 redemptions have a silver foil.


From my understanding, /10 autographs from Impeccable are considered to be gold, just a little observation.

[Yanks23]

Originally Posted by jjohnson114

This is interesting. I have a 2019-20 gold /10 and blue shimmer (likely to /35 or less) outstanding and have yet to hear anything. Please keep us posted.

If this is an actual auto it likely throws the theory that Panini is redeeming the active redemptions in a methodical manner (1/1, /3, /5, and by year etc.) out the window. We shall see.

Yep this is crazy. As i said before I have 2017-18 mosaic prizm auto /49 that has been outstanding for 3 years and I dont think they ever made this card. I'm not sure how people can defend Panini when there are cards that were never made and when you asked for just a different kobe auto in the past as replacement they said no. Now you hear people are getting replacements for newer cards that were not made but they didnt go back to stuff that is the oldest and fix those issues 1st.

[jjohnson114]

Originally Posted by Yanks23

Yep this is crazy. As i said before I have 2017-18 mosaic prizm auto /49 that has been outstanding for 3 years and I dont think they ever made this card. I'm not sure how people can defend Panini when there are cards that were never made and when you asked for just a different kobe auto in the past as replacement they said no. Now you hear people are getting replacements for newer cards that were not made but they didnt go back to stuff that is the oldest and fix those issues 1st.

It's amazing how much a little transparency would do for Panini. Instead, it's a continual guessing game, non-existent customer service, greed, and in my opinion a complete lack of respect for their customers. Very few business models could be as successful as they have been given how they treat their customers.

[Ginger Ale]

Originally Posted by thekiddfan

Still have an Optic gold /10 17/18 not fulfilled though

me too, no news.

[snomelcrob]

Originally Posted by Ginger Ale

me too, no news.

Same. I’m a bit worried that at this point no news is bad news.


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[thecardscout]

Originally Posted by jjohnson114

It's amazing how much a little transparency would do for Panini. Instead, it's a continual guessing game, non-existent customer service, greed, and in my opinion a complete lack of respect for their customers. Very few business models could be as successful as they have been given how they treat their customers.

Most accurate description of Panini I have heard.

[shakobe]

Originally Posted by thekiddfan

Wow..

Someone got an impeccable /15 replacement for a cornerstones auto..

I had 2 shipping notifications last nite.. a Cont. Optic red and vanguard purple. Hope they r autos rather than packs

Still have an Optic gold /10 17/18 not fulfilled though

Wow congratulations to your friend! What impeccable auto set did he receive as replacement? I posted before that someone got an immortal ink /15 as replacement for his Vanguard purple auto so you appear to be in luck there with your pending one