2022 Marvel Masterpieces on Epack tomorrow 9AM PT!

[Swipe79]

Which version did you redeem?

Originally Posted by baseballbunez

I redeemed mine and can confirm, was told they are out of stock and will have to replace. Still waiting to find out what all that means for replacement

[DynaEtch]

Do the redemptions even differ, in terms of regular, gold foil, variant cover?

I was under the impression they don’t, and when redeem they did a random of the 3, and you don’t know until it arrives. Or are there actually 3 variants of the redemption? (per what I saw on comc, I was only seeing one redemption type for an uncut sheet).

[baseballbunez]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Do the redemptions even differ, in terms of regular, gold foil, variant cover?

I was under the impression they don’t, and when redeem they did a random of the 3, and you don’t know until it arrives. Or are there actually 3 variants of the redemption? (per what I saw on comc, I was only seeing one redemption type for an uncut sheet).

I think this is correct, all the redemptions say "Regular" on the back and you found out what you got when shipped in

[Swipe79]

Mine says regular - which I assume means base.

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Do the redemptions even differ, in terms of regular, gold foil, variant cover?

I was under the impression they don’t, and when redeem they did a random of the 3, and you don’t know until it arrives. Or are there actually 3 variants of the redemption? (per what I saw on comc, I was only seeing one redemption type for an uncut sheet).

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Swipe79

Mine says regular - which I assume means base.

I think they all say regular.

UD just assigns a random of the 3 once it’s redeemed. Kinda weird I know, but I have yet to see or hear about any redemptions that say something besides regular.

[CardCollector19]

Any update on the uncut sheet redemptions?

I just got mine shipped to me from COMC.

I would be fine getting some high end MCU autos in return for it but hopefully UD is actually valuing the uncut sheets correctly.

Anyone got through the process of a replacement yet?

[mcguirem13]

Originally Posted by CardCollector19

Any update on the uncut sheet redemptions?

I just got mine shipped to me from COMC.

I would be fine getting some high end MCU autos in return for it but hopefully UD is actually valuing the uncut sheets correctly.

Anyone got through the process of a replacement yet?

I just redeemed mine yesterday. It says it's in stock and will be shipped soon but I assume it will change to replacement once they update it. I will update here if I get any updates on the redemption.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by CardCollector19

Any update on the uncut sheet redemptions?

I just got mine shipped to me from COMC.

I would be fine getting some high end MCU autos in return for it but hopefully UD is actually valuing the uncut sheets correctly.

Anyone got through the process of a replacement yet?

What would a good value be for these things?

Base, Gold, What if?

[CardCollector19]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

What would a good value be for these things?

Base, Gold, What if?

Not too many sales or ones available.
I would say $1500 minimum

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

What would a good value be for these things?

Base, Gold, What if?

Back when MM22 was fresh on epack and redemptions were being sold, I’d like to say $1000-1500. But considering how few physical sheets actually seem to hit the market, combined with the apparent running out of sheets, it’s possible the price is raised on them. Who knows maybe $1500-2500. It does depend which of the 3.

Edit: probably unlikely UD comps it at 2500 though. It’s more likely gonna be 1500ish I would imagine, if that

[DynaEtch]

Quick question, can someone fill me in on the Juggernaut Preliminary Art #67, what the story behind this is?

I have come across 3 listings for complete PA sets on ebay which are all minus #67. One of them even saying UD didn’t make the card. So I checked epack and sure enough every other PA card has like 85+ copies owned, but not a single #67 Juggernaut on there. Nor is one on COMC.

I have this complete PA set so I went back to my set and checked, and it’s there,





I bought my set back in the days of physical, before epack. Do I have a somewhat value card here? It’s part of my set so not moving it, but just curious. What is the theory here…was it physical and never made it into epack? Did people redeeming the PA achievement only need 89 cards? Or was the card on epack but someone cornered it? (unlikely imo).

[mjohnatgt]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Do I have a somewhat value card here? It’s part of my set so not moving it, but just curious. What is the theory here…was it physical and never made it into epack? Did people redeeming the PA achievement only need 89 cards? Or was the card on epack but someone cornered it? (unlikely imo).

On COMC, there were 7 sales/flips on site for anywhere between $5-50. None have been shipped, and I'm out of history points, but it looks like they might have been pulled from ePack for some reason.

3-Card Preliminary Art Acetate Achievement Set
Redeem a complete Preliminary Art Set (89 Cards)

Correct; AP-67 not required to get the achievement.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

On COMC, there were 7 sales/flips on site for anywhere between $5-50. None have been shipped, and I'm out of history points, but it looks like they might have been pulled from ePack for some reason.



Correct; AP-67 not required to get the achievement.

Gotcha, that’s interesting. Appears it didn’t make it into epack and if there was one sold on COMC it would have been originating from a physically submitted card. I imagine if one sold for a low amount like $5 it was by people unknowing about the situation of this card, probably even before epack hit. I don’t think I see any single Juggernaut PA’s actively for sale on any of the major markets currently.

So it looks like an SP due to only being in physical. To get the true nature of the SP, would have to estimate the percentage of this product’s run that was physical.

Edit: or wait are you thinking 7 sales/flips could have come from ePack somehow? Wouldn’t it be more likely 1 or 3 were sent in from physical during the whole year prior to the ePack drop, then a few of those flipped, leading to the 7 sales total?

[mjohnatgt]

No, I expect that all cards that were on COMC were from physical submissions.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

No, I expect that all cards that were on COMC were from physical submissions.

Ah got it. I agree. The SP ratio comes down to what the physical print run ratio was then I guess.

[exotechktx]

There's roughly about 300 Preliminary Art cards per character. Juggernaut didn't make it to ePack at all, neither did Thanos Kaleidoscope. Speculation is all we have, and the two most plausible explanations are that:

1 - they accidentally put them all in physical, which I don't think is the reality of it since we would have saw more hit the market
2 - they ran into some kind of warehousing dilemma and thought pulling them altogether made more sense

My money would be on #2, but then what really happened to them? No clue.

Tangential to this, there was a post recently in the FB groups. Someone had bought an uncut sheet redemption for MM2020, but failed to secure it physically by the redemption end (Dec 2022). They redeemed it in Spring of 2023, UD stated that they no longer had any redemption sheets for 2020, and in the Fall/Winter of 2020, they sent the person a Gold Foil Signature uncut sheet of MM2022.

It is totally absurd, yet also on brand, that UD would do this. But that gives us a glimpse into one of the reasons why the MM2022 uncut sheets ran out of stock before people were able to fully redeem them this past month.

Crazy stuff!

[Xazark]

They must have been in the same box as the Gallery Parallels that mysteriously didn't make it to epack either

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Xazark

They must have been in the same box as the Gallery Parallels that mysteriously didn't make it to epack either

Great point. I would love to know what happened to those galleries. I think it’s highly unlikely they would have put them all in physical. It doesn’t stand up to the numbers, with how few are on the market (same with Juggernaut PA).

There should be about the same total number of Red Gallery’s as Battle Spectra Teals out there- about 1500 each.

Looking at active and sold listings together on eBay at a glance, I see 17 Red Gallery’s and about 90 BSG teal. That is a massive difference for what should be the same number. Granted, there are some biases: ePack drop is much more recent than physical a year+ ago, cards accelerate to market from epack quicker than physical generally, and with epack all the cards are opened where as some can still be in the dwindling number of sealed physical boxes left. But even with all that, I don’t think it would be the case an insert set with the same number could be that hugely different on the market.

Another datapoint- in the 1/1 tracker- only 4 of 10 1/1 gold galleries have been observed (to my knowledge), whereas 11 of 15 gold BSGs have been. There is some variability with just 10 involved there so this is not conclusive, although it is suggestive.

I frankly expect Red galleries to be out of about /75, Blue /25, Pink /13, and Greens to be out of /5, for all intents and purposes. (with some variability, some greens maybe /4 or /6, etc). Look how sparse the greens show up. Ask yourself, how many times have you even seen a Green gallery Spiderman? I might have seen 1 total, but hard to remember.

And this begs the question where those extra galleries are. UD holding them back for replacements? Trashed? In a box? Will we ever see the 1/1 Gold gallery Spiderman or Wolverine?

[DynaEtch]

Here’s a philosophical question: *if* half the galleries are languishing in some box at UD, not to see the light of day. What is a Red gallery out of then? Is it /149 still (since all 149 cards do exist in the world), or half that?

If the box was destroyed I understand the /75. If in the far future the contents got leaked to the market (sort of like 90s fleer bankruptcy backdoors), then /149 makes sense, since that’s always a possibility. If the contents never get dispersed and stay in the box…what then is a Red gallery out of.

[exotechktx]

I asked UD QA on 2 separate occasions, while I was doing the Thor -> Spider-Man mixup request, about what happened to the canvas color parallels, and they chose to ignore it both times. I lean heavily on the side of halving the print run.

[ReignManLives]

Hey guys - has anyone else tried to redeem the uncut sheet redemption lately..any luck?

[Swipe79]

Did you end up getting the sheet or is it a replacement?

Originally Posted by mcguirem13

I just redeemed mine yesterday. It says it's in stock and will be shipped soon but I assume it will change to replacement once they update it. I will update here if I get any updates on the redemption.

[mcguirem13]

I just checked my redemption status for my uncut sheet which I redeemed on Nov.26 and it says "Item being pulled, packaged and prepared for shipping process." I guess I'll find out soon if they are actually shipping me an uncut sheet or a replacement.

[Sushiyoshi]

Redeemed mine on 11/12 and status is same. It’s just their generics status.

[mcguirem13]

My redemption status has changed to shipped 12/16/24.