Ronald Acuña

[SupermanBrandon]

Missed a Granny by about 10ft to deadcenter. RBI sack fly

[SaltyCracker]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

two thousand..."eighteen" ???

Another one

[razorsharp]

Acuna has been the only thing holding this team together.

Freddie Freeman has been an absolute embarrassment so far this season.

[ThoseBackPages]

i am a fan

[jswest18]

No idea how Acuna didn't hit a grand slam or at least get a hit. The ball came off the bat at 110 MPH with a launch angle of 23 degrees and xBA of .990.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by jswest18

No idea how Acuna didn't hit a grand slam or at least get a hit. The ball came off the bat at 110 MPH with a launch angle of 23 degrees and xBA of .990.

Please tell me this is sarcasm...

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jswest18

No idea how Acuna didn't hit a grand slam or at least get a hit. The ball came off the bat at 110 MPH with a launch angle of 23 degrees and xBA of .990.

And young people wonder why us older folks think ya'll are nerds and are ruining the game.

[Clause37]

Unfortunately, any ball that lands in a player's glove has an xBA of 0.

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Please tell me this is sarcasm...

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

And young people wonder why us older folks think ya'll are nerds and are ruining the game.

I guess I can see how that sounded “nerdy.” But seriously, how many times have you heard a player say “man I don’t how that stayed in the park!? I got all of it!” All the time. Those are just the logistics behind why a player saying that. Sue me for enjoying that sort of thing. I’m fully aware those numbers don’t guarantee a hit or a home run. I’ll keep my young nerdy comments to myself next time as I’d hate to ruin the game for anyone lol.

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by Clause37

Unfortunately, any ball that lands in a player's glove has an xBA of 0.

No it has an actual BA of 0. Which is all that matters

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by Clause37

Unfortunately, any ball that lands in a player's glove has an xBA of 0.

xBA is ex ante right?

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

And young people wonder why us older folks think ya'll are nerds and are ruining the game.

I'm in favor of whatever it takes to keep the next generation interested in the game.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by pspa123

I'm in favor of whatever it takes to keep the next generation interested in the game.

That's fine if it's interesting to them I guess but it's inconsequential to me. I don't give two s**ts about launch angles or expected BA or WAR or whatever other statistic these computer nerds are making up today.

It's either a HR or it isn't. If it isn't a HR I don't need to know how fast it traveled or how hard it was hit and that it SHOULD have been a HR. I can clearly see with my own eyes that it almost went out. That's the end of it. Not some mythological combination of numbers that tell me something that doesn't even matter.

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by pspa123

I'm in favor of whatever it takes to keep the next generation interested in the game.

I grew up in the 80s and 90s so I loved the game way before advanced metrics. I just happen to enjoy some of what they bring to the game.

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

That's fine if it's interesting to them I guess but it's inconsequential to me. I don't give two s**ts about launch angles or expected BA or WAR or whatever other statistic these computer nerds are making up today.

It's either a HR or it isn't. If it isn't a HR I don't need to know how fast it traveled or how hard it was hit and that it SHOULD have been a HR. I can clearly see with my own eyes that it almost went out. That's the end of it. Not some mythological combination of numbers that tell me something that doesn't even matter.

They aren’t mythological, they are quantifiable. If that’s not your sort of thing then that’s fine. It doesn’t mean someone who enjoys xBA, WAR, LA, etc., is a young nerd who doesn’t understand baseball. It’s funny, one crowd hangs on the tradition numbers and rejects anything new while the other crowd wants to do away with traditional numbers and hangs on the new numbers. Call me a crazy but I don’t see why there can’t be some merit to both crowds.

[ThoseBackPages]

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jswest18

They aren’t mythological, they are quantifiable. If that’s not your sort of thing then that’s fine. It doesn’t mean someone who enjoys xBA, WAR, LA, etc., is a young nerd who doesn’t understand baseball. It’s funny, one crowd hangs on the tradition numbers and rejects anything new while the other crowd wants to do away with traditional numbers and hangs on the new numbers. Call me a crazy but I don’t see why there can’t be some merit to both crowds.

WAR is absolutely positively mythological. It's made up numbers that don't quantify anything. Especially since there is no one formula to determine a players WAR. It's all perception and bias that manipulate the numbers.

Now if someone were to come to me and say we've figured out one way and one way only to calculate WAR I'd say "Awesome!... I still don't care".

[Ray27Ray52]

Can someone point me to the section regarding intangibles when calculating WAR. You can't? I'm disappointed.

[Shadowsonic2004]

Another BGS 9 Indy ending tonight at auction. 1 bid. (Not mine ofc)

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

WAR is absolutely positively mythological. It's made up numbers that don't quantify anything. Especially since there is no one formula to determine a players WAR. It's all perception and bias that manipulate the numbers.

Now if someone were to come to me and say we've figured out one way and one way only to calculate WAR I'd say "Awesome!... I still don't care".

I was mainly referring to the numbers I posted earlier. I won’t argue strongly with you about WAR. I dont mind the “stat” but it’s very flawed and relied on way too heavily.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jswest18

I was mainly referring to the numbers I posted earlier. I won’t argue strongly with you about WAR. I dont mind the “stat” but it’s very flawed and relied on way too heavily.

Yeah I don't know why I'm so antagonistic today. Sorry about that. Having a grumpy old man get off my lawn kind of day.

[clocsta2323]

Ryan Zimmerman has the best comment on launch angle ever :

"I’m doing it on purpose," he says with a completely straight face, seated in front of his locker. "All offseason, I worked on hitting the ball one-eighth of an inch lower and it's totally paying off. I used lasers and computers, and every time I didn't hit it one-eighth of an inch lower, my bat blew up so that I had to get a new one. That's how I started to hit it one-eighth of an inch lower."

Believe it or not, the one-eighth of an inch that Zimmerman’s referring to is an actual number. Yep. Somebody somewhere took the time to figure out that over the first month or so of the season, the Nats' cleanup man was striking the baseball, on average, an eighth of an inch lower than he did last year (per ESPN’s Sports Science). That’s the equivalent of two stitches on a seam. As a result of that two-stitch deviation, his average launch angle had increased by almost four degrees, from 9.0 last year, to 12.7 this April.

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

WAR is absolutely positively mythological. It's made up numbers that don't quantify anything. Especially since there is no one formula to determine a players WAR. It's all perception and bias that manipulate the numbers.

Now if someone were to come to me and say we've figured out one way and one way only to calculate WAR I'd say "Awesome!... I still don't care".

It's a better way to show how good a player is, and how valuable they actually are. Like Kevin Kiermaier is actually insanely valuable looking at today's game.

Like it or not, advanced stats are entering the game and going to be reviewed more heavily than traditional stats. I'd also argue because of WAR, we have better award winners now than we used to. Jacob DeGrom has CY because of WAR. If this was the old age, Strasburg probably wins one, and Scherzer another one to his name.

Basically the exit velocity/etc showcase now just how hard the batters are doing, and indicating they are hitting well and if the hits aren't dropping, they will because they are crushing the ball.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

A 2018 Heritage base PSA 10 auction ended at $255. Something I’m missing with this specific card? OBOs available for less. I’m assuming it was shilled.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254956192107

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

A 2018 Heritage base PSA 10 auction ended at $255. Something I’m missing with this specific card? OBOs available for less. I’m assuming it was shilled.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254956192107

Sweet.. I've got 4 ending in a couple days.. and another 50 waiting to be listed.