2022 Marvel Masterpieces on Epack tomorrow 9AM PT!

[Chrominator]

IME, the real thing will usually look a lot better than a printed-out scanned-image.

[DynaEtch]

They really did mute the deep blue background of that Thor.

I agree painting is usually better and more vibrant. There’s a few cases where I prefer the printed card but not many, and it’s almost always because the zoom/crop I think improves it. One example the 92MM Thing whose card is just Thing’s face and nothing else (painting has some background at top), and another, the zoom up on the 93MM Domino I think was a good decision. Generally though…paintings usually the best.

[baseballbunez]

Any truth to the rumor they ran out of uncut sheets? What does that do to the redemptions if so?

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by baseballbunez

Any truth to the rumor they ran out of uncut sheets? What does that do to the redemptions if so?

Wow, crazy if that’s the case. I haven’t heard anything but I’m not really in the loop. Id guess UD would have to make it right with something of comparable value. Strange they couldnt just print out a few more though

[exotechktx]

When I was waiting for the redemption to come in, I essentially said "If it is Thor, I am going to sell it, and keep Spider-Man" - I very much loved the Spidey canvas and thought the Thor was OK. When I received the Thor, I completely changed my mind about selling it because the colors of the painting are SO SO SO much better than what is present on the canvas cards.

You will always get the "the painting is so much more vibrant than the card, the card doesn't do it justice at all", which is very true. But in this case, the colors weren't translated correctly AT ALL. It isn't the canvas stock that is the issue either, because the color canvas parallels also exhibit the same issues.

Just incredible how different it is.


As for the uncut sheets, yes, they ran out. A friend was in the process of redeeming one and they responded that they no longer have any more in inventory. Originally I anticipated about 30 uncut sheets based off of previous years' pack odds. But when ePack came out, the pack odds translated to about 80 uncut sheets, which I thought was quite a bit! I imagine the answer lies somewhere in between, which begs the question - how did they bungle this up so badly? Did that one employee who went rogue also redeemed the uncut sheets?

But either way, the QA department will assess a market value to the uncut sheet, then replace it with a bundle of cards that come to that approximate value from their stockpile of cards that were internally ripped as part of their QC process.

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by exotechktx

But either way, the QA department will assess a market value to the uncut sheet, then replace it with a bundle of cards that come to that approximate value from their stockpile of cards that were internally ripped as part of their QC process.

Oh boy, I can't wait to see the complaints coming from those...

[DynaEtch]

Sheesh. Well I feel fortunate to have redeemed mine early, but I feel for those who thought they were getting a sheet and not. Hopefully UD is generous with the replacement.

Edit: I was wondering about the legal aspects of this, since after all the redemption says good for one uncut sheet and then not getting it, but UD does have a disclaimer on the redemption card that says in the unlikely event the selection is not available UD will arrange something of comparable value yada yada. Guess they foresaw something like this. I hope they make it right.

[Sushiyoshi]

I was deciding if I wanted to redeem mine. Now that they ran out, I dont want to be a jerk and sell the redemption knowing that there are none left. So I just redeemed and site says it is in stock and will ship soon. Probably a generic update for every redemption entered.

I guess we will see in the next few days.

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Edit: I was wondering about the legal aspects of this, since after all the redemption says good for one uncut sheet and then not getting it, but UD does have a disclaimer on the redemption card that says in the unlikely event the selection is not available UD will arrange something of comparable value yada yada. Guess they foresaw something like this. I hope they make it right.

They have to have that disclaimer. It would be pretty much a blanket concept--if an actor or athlete does not return autos, or they get lost, or whatever, they need a way out of the verbiage. Now this scenario seems a little underhanded--they should have known how many sheets they had. But who knows, maybe some got damaged, lost, etc.

[DynaEtch]

It was tedious, but scouring for some interesting numbers yielded the following. I mainly went for alphas, omegas, 0666 (yea odd…but the number stands out lol), 1111, and 1234….found several of the latter two but won’t bore everyone with those.

Probably the best of the lot












Also these which aren’t MM22 but older MM

This one actually kinda makes sense, from MM16. Satana is apparently the Devil’s daughter-




0001/1999!


I find the alphas and omegas of /1999’s the most interesting since the higher the number out of, the harder it is to be that. Is this all pretty trivial? Probably. Something to hunt for I guess.

[DynaEtch]

Thanks to comc/epack, alas….



Now I know you’re wondering, why is this dude framing legendary orange taskmasters.
Maybe he lost the plot finally?

Of course, there is a reason!

#01, 02, 03, 04 out of 99

[Xazark]

that is pretty cool, having 1,2,3,4 of a card is pretty unique

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Xazark

that is pretty cool, having 1,2,3,4 of a card is pretty unique

Definitely something I wasn’t aiming for, just happened into. When I was browsing comc for unique serial numbers, the taskmaster legendary orange bucket had like 5 cards, and the 02, 03, 04 happened to be in it (what are the chances of that?). Couldn’t pass that up so bought those 3.

Turns out the 01 was on epack luckily so I worked out a deal for it. The 05 actually also was, and but user was unresponsive even as I over offered for it (typical epack I guess). No matter…I’m capping it at 04. Have to stop at some number anyhow. It’s a silly thing, just due to that randomness on comc and decided to have a little fun with it. I have no connection to the character.

Some people collect things like Spiderman PMGs that can at least retain some value…and I’m here attempting runs of consecutive SN taskmaster cards not an investment of course.

[Bunny Hop]

I think the artistic motion and background mirroring also makes for an attractive row of cards, Dyna.

[Chrominator]

I love Omegas, then next it would be the card#, and then alphas...
followed up by complete repeat#'s (222/1499)... whole #'s 100s, 50s (250/1499)....
repeat #'s (0808/1499)... and last but not least #'s like 311, 357, 420, 666, 711, 789, 911, 999

[Chrominator]

HUGE fan of #1999/1999

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by exotechktx

When I was waiting for the redemption to come in, I essentially said "If it is Thor, I am going to sell it, and keep Spider-Man" - I very much loved the Spidey canvas and thought the Thor was OK. When I received the Thor, I completely changed my mind about selling it because the colors of the painting are SO SO SO much better than what is present on the canvas cards.

You will always get the "the painting is so much more vibrant than the card, the card doesn't do it justice at all", which is very true. But in this case, the colors weren't translated correctly AT ALL. It isn't the canvas stock that is the issue either, because the color canvas parallels also exhibit the same issues.

Just incredible how different it is.


As for the uncut sheets, yes, they ran out. A friend was in the process of redeeming one and they responded that they no longer have any more in inventory. Originally I anticipated about 30 uncut sheets based off of previous years' pack odds. But when ePack came out, the pack odds translated to about 80 uncut sheets, which I thought was quite a bit! I imagine the answer lies somewhere in between, which begs the question - how did they bungle this up so badly? Did that one employee who went rogue also redeemed the uncut sheets?

But either way, the QA department will assess a market value to the uncut sheet, then replace it with a bundle of cards that come to that approximate value from their stockpile of cards that were internally ripped as part of their QC process.

I still can't believe you have both...

imo, you should travel and let people pay to see and take pics w/ them

or loan them out to museums.

Both are so incredible it hurts to look at them;

and I can't even imagine what it's like having breakfast w/ them every frikin' morning either!

[exotechktx]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

I still can't believe you have both...

imo, you should travel and let people pay to see and take pics w/ them

or loan them out to museums.

Both are so incredible it hurts to look at them;

and I can't even imagine what it's like having breakfast w/ them every frikin' morning either!

I don't have both - I returned the Thor in order to have them send the Spider-Man; the Thor was then redeemed by LoyaltyStar!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Bunny Hop

I think the artistic motion and background mirroring also makes for an attractive row of cards, Dyna.

I wasn’t sure how the same exact card 4x times in a row would look, but kind of works I suppose- I think you’re right the art helps!

Originally Posted by Chrominator

I love Omegas, then next it would be the card#, and then alphas...

followed up by complete repeat#'s (222/1499)... whole #'s 100s, 50s (250/1499)....

repeat #'s (0808/1499)... and last but not least #'s like 311, 357, 420, 666, 711, 789, 911, 999

Originally Posted by Chrominator

HUGE fan of #1999/1999

This is an interesting take. I think for most people it’s probably the alpha as the #1. So it’s neat to see a differing perspective.

Not MM22, but my sole 1999/1999 I think. 2016MM:



Someone above posted they picked up an omega in MM22 off comc.

I was kinda looking for the same types of numbers as you when I was scoring comc: complete repeats, whole number (just the 1000/ usually), 0666, consecutive #s (I feel like a paper money collector scouring for bills with serial numbers lol).

I even debated picking up all the 777’s I see (jackpot!), but decided I’m branching out too far here, I don’t think almost anyone would even notice a 0777 or care about it at the end of the day. Was also considering going for my birth year (only applicable with /1999’s obviously), but then again, that applies to basically just me.

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by exotechktx

I don't have both - I returned the Thor in order to have them send the Spider-Man; the Thor was then redeemed by LoyaltyStar!

Ah, gotcha! Now I'm following

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

This is an interesting take. I think for most people it’s probably the alpha as the #1. So it’s neat to see a differing perspective.

Not MM22, but my sole 1999/1999 I think. 2016MM:



Someone above posted they picked up an omega in MM22 off comc.

I was kinda looking for the same types of numbers as you when I was scoring comc: complete repeats, whole number (just the 1000/ usually), 0666, consecutive #s (I feel like a paper money collector scouring for bills with serial numbers lol).

I even debated picking up all the 777’s I see (jackpot!), but decided I’m branching out too far here, I don’t think almost anyone would even notice a 0777 or care about it at the end of the day. Was also considering going for my birth year (only applicable with /1999’s obviously), but then again, that applies to basically just me.

With Omegas, the numerator/denominator is always 1/1

[Swipe79]

I have mine up on eBay - someone contacted me saying this and their source was the FB Marvel page.

I contacted Upper Deck directly and their response was:

"We do not have that information until the code is entered into the system.

If the redemption is depleted or item not being produced, replacement will be made by the fulfillment center.

The card / item you will receive will be of equal sale value to the one we would be replacing. Our fulfillment center in North Carolina are the ones who do research on value so currently I do not know what the value is.

Thank you and we apologize for any inconvenience."

So...not really much help but I'd guess they have them available and/or maybe ended up being short on just one type. Either way, the person who redeems should get their value out of it.

Originally Posted by baseballbunez

Any truth to the rumor they ran out of uncut sheets? What does that do to the redemptions if so?

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by Swipe79

So...not really much help but I'd guess they have them available and/or maybe ended up being short on just one type. Either way, the person who redeems should get their value out of it.

That's the kicker with replacements. There is a 99.9% chance you won't get a single card worth whatever the redemption's going rate is. You'll get probably 4-8 cards that combined might equal the value.

EDIT: I also wonder if it is now a dog chasing its tail--now that potential buyers may know they are out of stock, which means prices should theoretically lower, which means they don't have to send out as much replacement value. Of course, with the whose licensing thing, maybe they'll over-compensate.

[baseballbunez]

Originally Posted by Swipe79

I have mine up on eBay - someone contacted me saying this and their source was the FB Marvel page.

I contacted Upper Deck directly and their response was:

"We do not have that information until the code is entered into the system.

If the redemption is depleted or item not being produced, replacement will be made by the fulfillment center.

The card / item you will receive will be of equal sale value to the one we would be replacing. Our fulfillment center in North Carolina are the ones who do research on value so currently I do not know what the value is.

Thank you and we apologize for any inconvenience."

So...not really much help but I'd guess they have them available and/or maybe ended up being short on just one type. Either way, the person who redeems should get their value out of it.

I redeemed mine and can confirm, was told they are out of stock and will have to replace. Still waiting to find out what all that means for replacement

[Chrominator]

That's def a kick to the nuts for those holding redemptions.