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Old 02-13-2023, 05:24 PM   #3176
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Hahaha, that's the only sad part about the post-pandemic "collecting" world.

People being overly concerned about a card's grade than the actual card itself (shoot, same individuals would probably take a dinged up card if you just placed it in a Gem-Mint 10 slab).
they absolutely would!

and then complain "fake 10!" if it isnt theirs LOL
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Old 02-13-2023, 05:37 PM   #3177
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they absolutely would!

and then complain "fake 10!" if it isnt theirs LOL
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Old 02-13-2023, 06:17 PM   #3178
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you know it isnt. lol

people need to stop being anal with their cards.

Mint State is perfectly fine for cards, especially something that was made post-pandemic.
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Old 02-13-2023, 09:09 PM   #3179
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you know it isnt. lol

people need to stop being anal with their cards.

Mint State is perfectly fine for cards, especially something that was made post-pandemic.
Why post-pandemic compared with a 2018 or 2019 card?
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Old 02-13-2023, 09:18 PM   #3180
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Why post-pandemic compared with a 2018 or 2019 card?
QC may be at an all time low since 2020

key raw cards from before that .... have to wonder why they are raw in th first place.

but the last three years? cards come out of the pack crappy. look at 2022 TC and its offshoots
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:19 PM   #3181
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You’ll often see raw cards at or even slightly above the price of a PSA 9. I never got that- “Mint” is just fine with me and is less risky than buying a raw card (especially newer chrome cards which tend to have a lot of surface scratches). I’ll take a good deal on a PSA 9 any time
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Old 02-14-2023, 12:46 AM   #3184
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you know it isnt. lol

people need to stop being anal with their cards.

Mint State is perfectly fine for cards, especially something that was made post-pandemic.
Nothing wrong with a PSA 9, just don’t ask me to pay anything close to a PSA 10 for it. I usually will just buy a raw copy instead of a PSA 9 or lower, if we’re talking ultra modern, unless it’s something particularly rare. I’ve made exceptions in the past if it’s a card that just doesn’t pop up too often.
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Old 02-14-2023, 11:47 AM   #3187
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You’ll often see raw cards at or even slightly above the price of a PSA 9. I never got that- “Mint” is just fine with me and is less risky than buying a raw card (especially newer chrome cards which tend to have a lot of surface scratches). I’ll take a good deal on a PSA 9 any time
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Nothing wrong with a PSA 9, just don’t ask me to pay anything close to a PSA 10 for it. I usually will just buy a raw copy instead of a PSA 9 or lower, if we’re talking ultra modern, unless it’s something particularly rare. I’ve made exceptions in the past if it’s a card that just doesn’t pop up too often.
exactly. the "10 tax" is stupid. use the money you save buying 9's on more cards
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Old 02-14-2023, 12:59 PM   #3189
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That looks great!
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you know it isnt. lol

people need to stop being anal with their cards.

Mint State is perfectly fine for cards, especially something that was made post-pandemic.
Some might argue that raw mint state is fine and needing psa to verify and entomb in plastic is being anal too. If liking the slab for easier re-sale by you or your loved ones in the future I can understand that but needing all your cards slabbed is pretty OCD to a lot of people.
Not slamming your way of collecting just saying the whole grading thing(especially for modern) seems over the top to a fair amount of people.
Then theres the additional space and weight of storage too.
On the plus side they'd be protected from water damage in case of floods and hurricanes though.
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Some might argue that raw mint state is fine and needing psa to verify and entomb in plastic is being anal too. If liking the slab for easier re-sale by you or your loved ones in the future I can understand that but needing all your cards slabbed is pretty OCD to a lot of people.
Not slamming your way of collecting just saying the whole grading thing(especially for modern) seems over the top to a fair amount of people.
Then theres the additional space and weight of storage too.
On the plus side they'd be protected from water damage in case of floods and hurricanes though.
But what if you are OCD?! I rarely ever sell anything, but I love grading my comics and cards. I love having this stuff in as good of condition as possible. Poorly centered cards are turds in my punch bowl! It’s just how I am. Too late to change now. Haha
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That's nice.

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Some might argue that raw mint state is fine and needing psa to verify and entomb in plastic is being anal too. If liking the slab for easier re-sale by you or your loved ones in the future I can understand that but needing all your cards slabbed is pretty OCD to a lot of people.
Not slamming your way of collecting just saying the whole grading thing(especially for modern) seems over the top to a fair amount of people.
Then theres the additional space and weight of storage too.
On the plus side they'd be protected from water damage in case of floods and hurricanes though.
thats fair Dan. i prefer slabs because i am buying 99.7% of my cards on the internet. seeing them in person, how we did when we were kids, is a whole different thing. on the internet, i prefer a third party to give me their opinion on the shape of the card rather than the person that is selling it.

i also appreciate the look and feel of a card more in a slab than in a magnetic.
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Old 02-14-2023, 02:08 PM   #3195
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thats fair Dan. i prefer slabs because i am buying 99.7% of my cards on the internet. seeing them in person, how we did when we were kids, is a whole different thing. on the internet, i prefer a third party to give me their opinion on the shape of the card rather than the person that is selling it.

i also appreciate the look and feel of a card more in a slab than in a magnetic.
I get that. Yeah, I throw away any mag case I get on arrival except for the dumb uncirc cases from TC Black, Archives sig etc...because people expect them to be in those on resale.
In the world of graded cards I got absolutely NO problem with a fine 9
And on issues with as many problems as 2022 TCU 9 is the new 10. Love that TCU ref tower!
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Old 02-14-2023, 03:46 PM   #3196
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Oof. Maybe I should dig out my stash and submit some of the refractors, at least...
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:14 PM   #3197
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Some might argue that raw mint state is fine and needing psa to verify and entomb in plastic is being anal too. If liking the slab for easier re-sale by you or your loved ones in the future I can understand that but needing all your cards slabbed is pretty OCD to a lot of people.
Not slamming your way of collecting just saying the whole grading thing(especially for modern) seems over the top to a fair amount of people.
Then theres the additional space and weight of storage too.
On the plus side they'd be protected from water damage in case of floods and hurricanes though.

I’ve softened on my anti-slab bias, but I still dislike that they take up more room and somehow feel harder to really enjoy the card. But when forced to, a fine 9 definitely seems like the best “deal”, particularly because the 10 premium feels out of hand these days. I hate the idea of buying something that I feel has additional built in downside risk on value if I ever needed to sell just due to the grade


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Old 02-14-2023, 04:29 PM   #3199
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...a fine 9 definitely seems like the best “deal”...
With the proliferation of grading by the every-man, and the drop in QC by card producers, raw cards are on average less likely to be 'mint' these days. At least my speculation. Take the free grading fee on the PSA-9 selling for the same price as raw.

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With the proliferation of grading by the every-man, and the drop in QC by card producers, raw cards are on average less likely to be 'mint' these days. At least my speculation. Take the free grading fee on the PSA-9 selling for the same price as raw.

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I enjoy the hunt for the nice raw, honestly part of the fun and what keeps my spend lower

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