The Official NBA Playoff Thread—-20/21 Edition - Page 121

jweeks80 · 06-05-2021, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

Carlisle is a proven elite coach and plays his stud big minutes. Bud on the other hand.....

I think they're both mediocre as hell and shouldn't have jobs as head nba coaches.

ninjacookies · 06-05-2021, 09:00 PM

As good as it seemed the Nets shot from deep, they were only around 37% which is actually under their season average.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct

Let's face it. Bucks are going to have to put up a lot of points to meet Brooklyn's pace. Nets are averaging a shade under 119 a game, and that was with the big 3 only having around 10 games together.

Dnic · 06-05-2021, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

Yeah most definitely not panic time. But if the bucks are going to engage in a jumpshot contest they are not advancing. They were exposing the nets weakness and were in cruise control and then started shooting non stop jumpers, I think they said they missed 11 threes in a row in the second quarter. Nets offense was outstanding and they had a lot of overachievers. Should be an exciting game 2, hope harden is ok.

Yah I'm not even a Bucks fan but I wouldn't over react at all its game one adjustments will hopefully be made and I don't expect both teams to get as hot or as cold as they were today. As far as Harden I'm calling it he will miss atleast 2-3 games with that aggravated hamstring that is a very irritating injury to have.

dunkindutchmen · 06-05-2021, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

I think they're both mediocre as hell and shouldn't have jobs as head nba coaches.

Players have gushed about Carlisle's level of detail and preparation. He won a finals as a big underdog. He's a good coach. If you want someone to blame on Dallas, look at Kristaps, who seldom looks like he cares about anything basketball related.

pingbling23 · 06-05-2021, 09:07 PM

I know contracts are complex but Middleton is making 6 mil. more then giannis this season.

Chris P · 06-05-2021, 09:11 PM

I don't think there has been overreactions..i think there's disappointment that the Bucks couldn't take advantage of a Hardenless Nets team and it wasn't that much a competitive game in the 2nd half

Siberian13 · 06-05-2021, 09:17 PM

Good game for the Nets. No real help for Giannis

YourAvgSutton · 06-05-2021, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

I know contracts are complex but Middleton is making 6 mil. more then giannis this season.

NBA contracts are odd so I don’t discuss them much (if at all). However, this is why I haven’t been much of a fan of Middleton’s since he disappeared in the Raptors series in 2019 and Milwaukee handed him a max deal.

He makes more than AD, Kyrie, Lillard, etc., yet doesn’t hold a torch to their level of talent. He puts up solid numbers in the regular season next to Giannis, but he isn’t a game changing talent. Very rarely have I ever found myself thinking, ‘Middleton is taking over’.

I hope I stand corrected and he makes me eat those words this year.

Donkaylove · 06-05-2021, 09:20 PM

How was this not the game plan? Bucks cant outscore this team...........period

YourAvgSutton · 06-05-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Good game for the Nets. No real help for Giannis

As Ace Hood once eloquently put it, “ Same old sh*t, just a different day”.

Let’s hope that narrative changes once and for all in game 2!

oshmeehan · 06-05-2021, 09:35 PM

Been said multiple times in here, but Bucks have to stick with trying to punish the Nets down low on the offensive end. The Nets really have no one to defend Brook or Giannis in the paint.

Middleton missing so many makeable shots, just wasn't his night. And got nothing from the bench.

Bucks notoriously have been pretty bad in Game 1's. Lost to the Celtics in Semifinals in 2019 and almost lost to Raptors in ECF. Lost to the Magic in the bubble in Game 1 and barely beat the Heat in Game 1 this year.

I am holding onto that, the long layoff, and that they wont shoot THAT bad from 3 again. Of course being a Bucks fan I fully expect to get swept or lose in 5.

ninjacookies · 06-05-2021, 09:49 PM

This Dwade gameshow is a horrible parody of Saw minus the past sins storylines.

cnewby · 06-06-2021, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

Bucks notoriously have been pretty bad in Game 1's. Lost to the Celtics in Semifinals in 2019 and almost lost to Raptors in ECF. Lost to the Magic in the bubble in Game 1 and barely beat the Heat in Game 1 this year.

Notoriously bad = 2-2...

Grizzkid12 · 06-06-2021, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

This Dwade gameshow is a horrible parody of Saw minus the past sins storylines.

From the ads at least it reminds me a little more of "Cube".

If you've never seen Cube before, it's pretty much a lower budget, much tackier, Canadian Saw. Highly recommend for the poops & giggles

ninjacookies · 06-06-2021, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

From the ads at least it reminds me a little more of "Cube".

If you've never seen Cube before, it's pretty much a lower budget, much tackier, Canadian Saw. Highly recommend for the poops & giggles

Added to the bucket list.

What could be better than low budget death games from accidentally running over moose 5 summers ago?

hairyangryfella · 06-06-2021, 02:20 AM

Lakers fans are hilarious. On social media it's now all the coach's fault or the roster was made up of only scrubs, plus they're now going to trade Kuzma and Gasol (and maybe Drummond too) for Dame...

I wanted the Suns to win game 6 but bet on the Lakers so I got something out of it either way. Might do the same for tomorrow - bet on the Clips...

tjforce · 06-06-2021, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Lakers fans are hilarious. On social media it's now all the coach's fault or the roster was made up of only scrubs, plus they're now going to trade Kuzma and Gasol (and maybe Drummond too) for Dame...

I wanted the Suns to win game 6 but bet on the Lakers so I got something out of it either way. Might do the same for tomorrow - bet on the Clips...

Yes... one of the first things I realized when I moved to LA is that local Lakers fans have a skewed view of the NBA.

A few that I talked to thought that Kobe was a consensus better player than LeBron. These people were all just casual fans thought. I can say pretty much every city I've lived in had fans that didn't know much about the league other than their hometown team. I just happens that LA county has 10 Million people in it so you get a lot more of these types of fans.

Archangel1775 · 06-06-2021, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Yes... one of the first things I realized when I moved to LA is that local Lakers fans have a skewed view of the NBA.

A few that I talked to thought that Kobe was a consensus better player than LeBron. These people were all just casual fans thought. I can say pretty much every city I've lived in had fans that didn't know much about the league other than their hometown team. I just happens that LA county has 10 Million people in it so you get a lot more of these types of fans.

The biggest factor is that Lakers fans watched Kobe and Company win 5 NBA Titles. LeBron prior to the Lakers had only won 3. Kobe is also a career Laker. With the early passing of Kobe Bryant and the Lakers winning it all last year, the emotional connection to him became stronger because, in their eyes, it was a "For Kobe" run. LeBron winning it likely helped close that gap for Laker's fans between the two but his behavior this year surely widened it.

ballhawkdawk · 06-06-2021, 06:52 AM

One game is certainly not a series, but it’s concerning that the Nets were without Harden, both KD and Kyrie were forced into taking tough shots throughout most of the night, and the Nets still ran away with it in the 4th.

Factor in Mike James and Blake Griffin making major contributions, and this is looking like an uphill battle for the Bucks. When Blake Griffin is outhustling you, you need to self evaluate. No disrespect to Blake as he brought it last night, but that effort and intensity needs to be matched, at a minimum, if the Bucks want to make this a series. Last night felt like a missed opportunity for them.

Kobefan · 06-06-2021, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Yes... one of the first things I realized when I moved to LA is that local Lakers fans have a skewed view of the NBA.

A few that I talked to thought that Kobe was a consensus better player than LeBron. These people were all just casual fans thought. I can say pretty much every city I've lived in had fans that didn't know much about the league other than their hometown team. I just happens that LA county has 10 Million people in it so you get a lot more of these types of fans.

I don't see that as an impossibility since almost everybody has a different top ten players list, based on the achievements they deemed more important, and plenty of nba players have placed kobe above lebron. If you want a skewed view of the nba, it's more like those fans picking lebron as goat over MJ, now that has me ROFL.

Erikthredd · 06-06-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Lakers fans are hilarious. On social media it's now all the coach's fault or the roster was made up of only scrubs, plus they're now going to trade Kuzma and Gasol (and maybe Drummond too) for Dame.

You could add Magic Johnson ripping into Dennis Schroder as well.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/m...-and-attitude/

gomiamigo · 06-06-2021, 10:25 AM

Bucks have been soft last two postseasons and were soft again last night. Middleton just isn't good enough and Jrue has never been a scorer, they really miss Donte to not even be close in the 4th with no Harden....I'm surprised, I thought MIL would make it a series.

76ers line has moved from -133 to -160. Embiid upgraded to questionable, but I doubt he plays. I don't think that's why the line has moved but who knows.

If PHL can advance and have Embiid for the Nets, they can't play Blake at center. He has no shot vs Joel. But if Harden comes back it may not matter BRK might just outscore everyone all playoffs.

tjforce · 06-06-2021, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

The biggest factor is that Lakers fans watched Kobe and Company win 5 NBA Titles. LeBron prior to the Lakers had only won 3. Kobe is also a career Laker. With the early passing of Kobe Bryant and the Lakers winning it all last year, the emotional connection to him became stronger because, in their eyes, it was a "For Kobe" run. LeBron winning it likely helped close that gap for Laker's fans between the two but his behavior this year surely widened it.

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Originally Posted by Kobefan

I don't see that as an impossibility since almost everybody has a different top ten players list, based on the achievements they deemed more important, and plenty of nba players have placed kobe above lebron. If you want a skewed view of the nba, it's more like those fans picking lebron as goat over MJ, now that has me ROFL.

The year was 2015... so he wasn't canonized yet.

But I get it. I'm from Cleveland, where people literally think Bernie Kosar is an all time great.

What I'm trying to say is some of the more fanatical stuff coming out of some Lakers fans right now isn't from your hard core fan that watches every team, it's the guy or gal that literally only pay attention to the Lakers.

tjforce · 06-06-2021, 11:38 AM

Embiid playing Game 1.

So much for shutting him down the rest of the Playoffs.

We'll see if it works out for him better than it did Harden.

Mac302 · 06-06-2021, 11:44 AM

I would have to imagine Embiids tear just must not be that bad...I mean why take a chance and not at least see how Game 1 goes without him if it's a serious or moderate injury.

06-05-2021, 09:00 PM	#3002
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,098	As good as it seemed the Nets shot from deep, they were only around 37% which is actually under their season average. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct Let's face it. Bucks are going to have to put up a lot of points to meet Brooklyn's pace. Nets are averaging a shade under 119 a game, and that was with the big 3 only having around 10 games together. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

06-05-2021, 09:35 PM	#3011
oshmeehan Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 7,162	Been said multiple times in here, but Bucks have to stick with trying to punish the Nets down low on the offensive end. The Nets really have no one to defend Brook or Giannis in the paint. Middleton missing so many makeable shots, just wasn't his night. And got nothing from the bench. Bucks notoriously have been pretty bad in Game 1's. Lost to the Celtics in Semifinals in 2019 and almost lost to Raptors in ECF. Lost to the Magic in the bubble in Game 1 and barely beat the Heat in Game 1 this year. I am holding onto that, the long layoff, and that they wont shoot THAT bad from 3 again. Of course being a Bucks fan I fully expect to get swept or lose in 5. __________________ FEAR THE DEER

06-05-2021, 09:49 PM	#3012
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,098	This Dwade gameshow is a horrible parody of Saw minus the past sins storylines. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

06-06-2021, 10:25 AM	#3022
gomiamigo Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: in your head Posts: 10,968 esmoney gomiamigo	Bucks have been soft last two postseasons and were soft again last night. Middleton just isn't good enough and Jrue has never been a scorer, they really miss Donte to not even be close in the 4th with no Harden....I'm surprised, I thought MIL would make it a series. 76ers line has moved from -133 to -160. Embiid upgraded to questionable, but I doubt he plays. I don't think that's why the line has moved but who knows. If PHL can advance and have Embiid for the Nets, they can't play Blake at center. He has no shot vs Joel. But if Harden comes back it may not matter BRK might just outscore everyone all playoffs. __________________ IG: KevinDurant35Cards

06-06-2021, 11:38 AM	#3024
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,507	Embiid playing Game 1. So much for shutting him down the rest of the Playoffs. We'll see if it works out for him better than it did Harden. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

06-05-2021, 09:07 PM	#3005
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,970 pingbling23	I know contracts are complex but Middleton is making 6 mil. more then giannis this season.

06-05-2021, 09:11 PM	#3006
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 15,043	I don't think there has been overreactions..i think there's disappointment that the Bucks couldn't take advantage of a Hardenless Nets team and it wasn't that much a competitive game in the 2nd half

06-05-2021, 09:17 PM	#3007
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 79,045 shiller13	Good game for the Nets. No real help for Giannis

06-05-2021, 09:20 PM	#3009
Donkaylove Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: PNW Posts: 3,206	How was this not the game plan? Bucks cant outscore this team...........period

06-06-2021, 02:20 AM	#3016
hairyangryfella Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 13,219	Lakers fans are hilarious. On social media it's now all the coach's fault or the roster was made up of only scrubs, plus they're now going to trade Kuzma and Gasol (and maybe Drummond too) for Dame... I wanted the Suns to win game 6 but bet on the Lakers so I got something out of it either way. Might do the same for tomorrow - bet on the Clips...

06-06-2021, 06:52 AM	#3019
ballhawkdawk Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 7,485	One game is certainly not a series, but it’s concerning that the Nets were without Harden, both KD and Kyrie were forced into taking tough shots throughout most of the night, and the Nets still ran away with it in the 4th. Factor in Mike James and Blake Griffin making major contributions, and this is looking like an uphill battle for the Bucks. When Blake Griffin is outhustling you, you need to self evaluate. No disrespect to Blake as he brought it last night, but that effort and intensity needs to be matched, at a minimum, if the Bucks want to make this a series. Last night felt like a missed opportunity for them.

06-06-2021, 11:44 AM	#3025
Mac302 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Mid Atlantic Posts: 655 us2014.nacch	I would have to imagine Embiids tear just must not be that bad...I mean why take a chance and not at least see how Game 1 goes without him if it's a serious or moderate injury.