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Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

I have starred at these pictures way longer than I want to admit. I have come to the conclusion that a mistake was made during packing. No way the flap opens that clean if glue is on the flap. Everyone makes mistakes so I am not blaming anyone but I believe this falls on the seller based on the pictures. THE SELLER IS A AWESOME EBAYER AND A MEMBER. Either its a faulty envelope or just a oversight during packing I would reimburse if it were me. I am basing this off the pictures of it open and me trying to open one of mine after I properly sealed it. Just my 2 cents as a long time ebayer with many thousands of cards shipped.

You do not see how the glue has been lifted? I think it's quite black and white.. maybe its because I am so familiar with this package and others are not.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

You got to realize the person who may have opened the envelope wouldn't have taken a lot of time. It would have been a smash and grab.

unless done 100% on purpose.... hence more "what ifs" lol.. if it were stolen by a USPS agent they simply would throw out the package I think.

xavieronly1 · 09-26-2015, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

ive done so many times... you lift the label (carefully or it ill tear) and lift the glue (again carefully or it will tear). You would absolutely have to be doing this with purpose to not damage the package though.. you are correct.

If anyone is into stealing, the number 1 objective is to avoid getting caught. No one has time to lift the glue carefully. I am talking about USPS workers who want to steal.

Which also leads me to believe that no one in COMC would waste time to lift the glue carefully for any incoming package. They handle 1000+ packages on a daily basis. COMC is not me. I save bubble mailer for reuse. COMC just opens every package within 2 second and gets whatever inside.

xavieronly1 · 09-26-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

unless done 100% on purpose.... hence more "what ifs" lol.. if it were stolen by a USPS agent they simply would throw out the package I think.

Nope. Your package has tracking. It is better to ship empty/damage package than having it missing in the sorting warehouse.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xavieronly1

If anyone is into stealing, the number 1 objective is to avoid getting caught. No one has time to lift the glue carefully. I am talking about USPS workers who want to steal.

Which also leads me to believe that no one in COMC would waste time to lift the glue carefully for any incoming package. They handle 1000+ packages on a daily basis. COMC is not me. I save bubble mailer for reuse. COMC just opens every package within 2 second and gets whatever inside.

Wouldn't this all lead back to the conclusion that the package was opened with purpose? All these what if's are giving me a major headache and it's all irrelevant. The frustrating point here is that we will probably never know.

My liability as a seller is to ensure a safe delivery to the provided address (which I, eBay, and paypal all feel I did). After that point its up to COMC to treat their customer as they see fit. That should be the end of this story. At least from my perspective and involvement.

jlzinck · 09-26-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

You should be suspended but because you are making these statement to me.. you of course will not lol....

did you pay those debts? I may have the values wrong.. but the point remains... so "hey butt blister"... did you pay???

SMALL EDIT: Now that I am being reminded of that wonderfully non trolling thread (sarcasm)... what I actually searched at the time was his id along with mine (IE threads in which he replied to written or posted on by me).. it far exceeded the 50 post count he demanded for the bet. He's now saying because I did not literally post each thread to him.. he is not liable to pay his debt.

Yes I did, even though I didn't have to.

Ethics and integrity are things that are foreign to you.

EVERYTHING I have said I have done I HAVE, EVENRTHING I have posted in regards to you I have posted PROOF. You cannot and have NEVER done the same you sad little boy

But you can NEVER say you were wrong because a narcissist can't.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xavieronly1

Nope. Your package has tracking. It is better to ship empty/damage package than having it missing in the sorting warehouse.

Not at all.. USPS doesn't give a BLEEP about packages going missing. I had an item go missing yet get "found" in a sorting facility. They were supposed to mail me paperwork to get the item back (a Joe Namath auto)... and instead I got a message on eBay a week later claiming they person just bought the item from USPS and they wanted to sell it back to me. That's how USPS treats their customers lol. If this item was stolen by them it would still be in "transit"

Cavaliercards · 09-26-2015, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

So you would completely ignore the fact that a 3rd party has this package and the buyer never saw the package with their own eyes a single time? You would (without question) compensate someone who could very well be scamming you? Logic seems to go out the window when it comes to issues with my name attached.

We had a card damaged on it's way to COMC, we were absolved by Paypal, but still did the honest and right thing.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jlzinck

Yes I did, even though I didn't have to.

Ethics and integrity are things that are foreign to you.

EVERYTHING I have said I have done I HAVE, EVENRTHING I have posted in regards to you I have posted PROOF. You cannot and have NEVER done the same you sad little boy

But you can NEVER say you were wrong because a narcissist can't.

Ever think your time would be better spent on something productive than obsession with me? I would still like to see the proof of those donations if you don't mind.

Cavaliercards · 09-26-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

I have starred at these pictures way longer than I want to admit. I have come to the conclusion that a mistake was made during packing. No way the flap opens that clean if glue is on the flap. Everyone makes mistakes so I am not blaming anyone but I believe this falls on the seller based on the pictures. THE SELLER IS A AWESOME EBAYER AND A MEMBER. Either its a faulty envelope or just a oversight during packing I would reimburse if it were me. I am basing this off the pictures of it open and me trying to open one of mine after I properly sealed it. Just my 2 cents as a long time ebayer with many thousands of cards shipped.

I thought it was a reused envelope until seeing some others opinions on it.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

We had a card damaged on it's way to COMC, we were absolved by Paypal, but still did the honest and right thing.

Why would you fight a case if you wanted to refund the customer anyway? That seems to be an oxy moron.

jlzinck · 09-26-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

How about you send that money to the charities you claimed to donate to in my name over the years? Nothing hypocritical here at all.

This guy is so obsessed with me he had me sign a baseball for him at the 2013 national, then was suppose to donate $50 to charity.. yet has never shown proof for doing so. Previous to that he was supposed to donate $500 to the charity of a sick child mentioned on this site many times if I could prove him wrong on a subject.. I did.. no donation ever made.
I have asked this many times and will do so again... LEAVE ME ALONE

Just quoting Mr Mr Lack of Eithics and Integrity who lies about other members.

xavieronly1 · 09-26-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

Wouldn't this all lead back to the conclusion that the package was opened with purpose? All these what if's are giving me a major headache and it's all irrelevant. The frustrating point here is that we will probably never know.

My liability as a seller is to ensure a safe delivery to the provided address (which I, eBay, and paypal all feel I did). After that point its up to COMC to treat their customer as they see fit. That should be the end of this story. At least from my perspective and involvement.

No. It does not lead to a single conclusion. It can be opened on purpose due to perfect circumstance OR you just forgot to seal the package.

I just wonder if COMC videotaped each package opening or what? It is not that hard to do if you have a desk setup with camera.

But anyway, you won the case due to ebay policy. I don't blame you because that is a valid defense to avoid the buyer's protection.

In the end of the day, would you think this $80 worth all these 8 pages fight? I am sure many people who use COMC would STOP buying from you knowing you will use the same loophole as the defense if craps happen.

jlzinck · 09-26-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

Ever think your time would be better spent on something productive than obsession with me? I would still like to see the proof of those donations if you don't mind.

I had posted these MONTHS AGO. But like usual when you are caught in a lie or are WRONG you vanish or "misremember" like in the post above.

FISHLEGBOOTS · 09-26-2015, 10:47 PM

smalltown · 09-26-2015, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

My liability as a seller is to ensure a safe delivery to the provided address (which I, eBay, and paypal all feel I did). After that point its up to COMC to treat their customer as they see fit. That should be the end of this story. At least from my perspective and involvement.

COMC told the customer, who they're acting on behalf of, that there was no "safe delivery" - the package was empty. Are you saying COMC is lying? Are you explicitly saying COMC is at fault?

I hope since you're so certain that COMC is at fault that'll you'll refuse to ship to COMC in the future and clearly state this on all your listings.

bethanyb1201 · 09-26-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

We had a card damaged on it's way to COMC, we were absolved by Paypal, but still did the honest and right thing.

I agree with this! I think you should do the right thing and refund. Lets say you are getting scammed. The buyer has nothing to do with the scam. Take this as a lesson ed learned and never ship to comc again! The buyer is just as innocent as you are. By not refunding you could lose a life long customer that could cost you a lot more than 80. Think of it like that.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

COMC told the customer, who they're acting on behalf of, that there was no "safe delivery" - the package was empty. Are you saying COMC is lying? Are you explicitly saying COMC is at fault?

I hope since you're so certain that COMC is at fault that'll you'll refuse to ship to COMC in the future and clearly state this on all your listings.

I cannot say definitively (hence the issue here) but my personal belief is... yes

I would recommend no one use them for eBay item delivery in the future and if I see it before the buyer pays I will absolutely inform them of this issue. As a seller I cannot refuse an address as I would be voiding my seller protection.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

I agree with this! I think you should do the right thing and refund. Lets say you are getting scammed. The buyer has nothing to do with the scam. Take this as a lesson ed learned and never ship to comc again! The buyer is just as innocent as you are. By not refunding you could lose a life long customer that could cost you a lot more than 80. Think of it like that.

I blocked the OP from bidding on future items when they decided to open a paypal case almost immediately after losing their eBay case. They were trying to double dip. Another point glossed over by the masses here.

Completely agree they are a victim in this situation.. not sure how its my responsibility to hold the liability of COMC though.. still waiting for that explanation. Just because some "feel or "think" its the right thing to do... does not make it so. Once you leave yourself open to scam and fraud.. the flood gates will always come in. 15 years of selling has taught me that way too many times.

Cavaliercards · 09-26-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

I blocked the OP from bidding on future items when they decided to open a paypal case almost immediately after losing their eBay case. They were trying to double dip. Another point glossed over by the masses here.

Completely agree they are a victim in this situation.. not sure how its my responsibility to hold the liability of COMC though.. still waiting for that explanation. Just because some "feel or "think" its the right thing to do... does not make it so. Once you leave yourself open to scam and fraud.. the flood gates will always come in. 15 years of selling has taught me that way too many times.

Shame they had to open two cases and they were not just refunded in the beginning.

fullmetal · 09-26-2015, 10:58 PM

The third party receiving company must have a written SOP that includes guidance for his very situation. Might the company chime in with their internal protocol and their liability statement as provided and agreed to by their customers who use this service.

A former member and I discussed starting a business that provided safe and reliable international (outbound US) shipping about ten years ago before DC became more commonplace. I'm glad we didn't go that route. Offering a low and competitive price to customers was our sticking point. There were too many cost scenarios. To account for.

smalltown · 09-26-2015, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

I cannot say definitively (hence the issue here) but my personal belief is... yes

If this is truley how you feel I hope you're contacting them to let them know that you're disappointed that they would allow this to happen to your valued customer and that they should look into internal theft that you believe is going on.

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

I would recommend no one use them for eBay item delivery in the future and if I see it before the buyer pays I will absolutely inform them of this issue. As a seller I cannot refuse an address as I would be voiding my seller protection.

I think you're going to be hard pressed to get many people to side with you on this. Myself and others receive packages via COMC daily and without the issues you're claiming.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Shame they had to open two cases and they were not just refunded in the beginning.

shame is I think you are not telling the truth in your replies. Again you said you refunded someone AFTER you won a paypal case. Why did you not simply let the case end in the buyers favor? takes 2 clicks. The tone of your posts have me putting some shade on you.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmetal

The third party receiving company must have a written SOP that includes guidance for his very situation. Might try company chime in with their internal protocol and their liability statement as provided and agreed to by their customers who use this service.

A former member and I discussed starting a business that provided safe and reliable international (outbound US) shipping about ten years ago before DC became more commonplace. I'm glad we didn't go that route. Offering a low and competitive price to customers was our sticking point. There were too many cost scenarios. To account for.

absolutely agree with this statement. People should absolutely be aware they are risking things when using this form of shipment. As I told the buyer before the case closed.. I offer direct Canadian shipping. There was no reason to have this happen at all.

Imac7065 · 09-26-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

If this is truley how you feel I hope you're contacting them to let them know that you're disappointed that they would allow this to happen to your valued customer and that they should look into internal theft that you believe is going on.

I think you're going to be hard pressed to get many people to side with you on this. Myself and others receive packages via COMC daily and without the issues you're claiming.

I am not a member of COMC and have no connection to them what so ever. I do not see it as my place to inject myself into the issues others have with them.

That being said.. if someone from that company would like to read this thread and contact me for more information... I will happily talk to them.

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fullmetal Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13,249	The third party receiving company must have a written SOP that includes guidance for his very situation. Might the company chime in with their internal protocol and their liability statement as provided and agreed to by their customers who use this service. A former member and I discussed starting a business that provided safe and reliable international (outbound US) shipping about ten years ago before DC became more commonplace. I'm glad we didn't go that route. Offering a low and competitive price to customers was our sticking point. There were too many cost scenarios. To account for. Last edited by fullmetal; 09-26-2015 at 11:01 PM.