Well Topps took a dump on me tonight (Redemption Replacements) - Page 2

Conrad · 07-14-2015, 09:37 PM

wow, congrats man.........

Crazybella8 · 07-14-2015, 09:37 PM

A superfractor as a replacement? Are you kidding me. That to me is a joke. A chase card at the time of release and even if it was a redemption, complete garbage that it would be a replacement. And then if it was a redemption could you imagine someone opening the product now and pulling it for topps to then say oh sorry expired but look we gave it to somebody for their other redemptions that we can't make. Joke joke joke!

dcmorgan96 · 07-14-2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thommy

For those saying this is fair, look at eBay at Ryu prices, he sells WAY better than Freeman. But even if he didn't, and those cards were even:

The pink and camo were valued at $600 together. That's approximately the last sale price of each of the other 5.

This isn't really a reasonable excuse, but I bet the opinion of "fair" is also comparing it to previous topps replacements.

Skipscards · 07-14-2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thommy

For those saying this is fair, look at eBay at Ryu prices, he sells WAY better than Freeman. But even if he didn't, and those cards were even:

The pink and camo were valued at $600 together. That's approximately the last sale price of each of the other 5.

This. ^^^^^^^

Also, if the OP didn't request replacements then Topps should have sent replacements.

dcmorgan96 · 07-14-2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

A superfractor as a replacement? Are you kidding me. That to me is a joke. A chase card at the time of release and even if it was a redemption, complete garbage that it would be a replacement. And then if it was a redemption could you imagine someone opening the product now and pulling it for topps to then say oh sorry expired but look we gave it to somebody for their other redemptions that we can't make. Joke joke joke!

The redemption expired.

HYPTZEMDSTRPLES · 07-14-2015, 09:38 PM

I would think that Freeman would be worth a nice chunk of change.

Conrad · 07-14-2015, 09:40 PM

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EldoEsq · 07-14-2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

A superfractor as a replacement? Are you kidding me. That to me is a joke. A chase card at the time of release and even if it was a redemption, complete garbage that it would be a replacement. And then if it was a redemption could you imagine someone opening the product now and pulling it for topps to then say oh sorry expired but look we gave it to somebody for their other redemptions that we can't make. Joke joke joke!

The redemption expired...

Crazybella8 · 07-14-2015, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dcmorgan96

The redemption expired.

I understand that. That's a whole other issue (redemptions shouldn't expire IMO). I just don't agree with 1/1's or cards that should have been in other releases being used as replacements. Companies really need to figure a better plan. I know it will never happen and most people probably really don't care. I just think they need to try much harder to get the cards live in the product or soon after if it's a redemption.

Conrad · 07-14-2015, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

This. ^^^^^^^

Also, if the OP didn't request replacements then Topps should have sent replacements.

what else was he going to request? money?

I think they just skipped a step in everything and got the man a solid deal.

VWBUS1978 · 07-14-2015, 09:46 PM

Totally understand your issue with this,
I just wish topps would take a dump like this in my mailbox!

Skipscards · 07-14-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Conrad

what else was he going to request? money?

I think they just skipped a step in everything and got the man a solid deal.

Nothing. The actual cards. He didn't request any replacements.

NeedChapmans · 07-14-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

Nothing. The actual cards. He didn't request any replacements.

But if Ryu is not going to sign; then he's not going to sign.

Conrad · 07-14-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

Nothing. The actual cards. He didn't request any replacements.

well they don't have the actual cards soooooooooooooooooo

ForzaMilan92 · 07-14-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HYPTZEMDSTRPLES

I would think that Freeman would be worth a nice chunk of change.

For some it would, but when you are so close to completing the rainbow to you're PC man which you've been working on for two years, I dont think you care about a card you didn't even want AND is worth way less then what you should be receiving.

zac949 · 07-14-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thommy

For those saying this is fair, look at eBay at Ryu prices, he sells WAY better than Freeman. But even if he didn't, and those cards were even:

The pink and camo were valued at $600 together. That's approximately the last sale price of each of the other 5.

Thank you for being the only one that actually sees this for what it is. The value is far from accurate.

The Freeman Blue Auto sells for $30 and Ryu's were going for $60+ last I recall. People aren't busting the product anymore and most that were pulled were redeemed so it's hard to get a value on them now. I know he's out for the season, but I'd take him any day over Freeman.

The last Red Auto Redemption listed on ebay sold for $162.50 (as a freaking redemption card) and Topps valued it at $150. All the cards listed were selling for at least the amount Topps were valuing them at.

All it takes is 2 minutes of research to see this wasn't even close to a fair replacement.

Keyser Soze · 07-14-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

Nothing. The actual cards. He didn't request any replacements.

Topps must have realized that they weren't going to get Ryu to sign these so they proactively replaced them. No point in making him wait.

Conrad · 07-14-2015, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Topps must have realized that they weren't going to get Ryu to sign these so they proactively replaced them. No point in making him wait.

my thoughts exactly...

xbignick · 07-14-2015, 09:54 PM

I don't think that's fair just based on their own valuations. $2,230 there?

Green Harvey=~$60
Machados=~$90
Jose Fernandez=~$100
Blue Jose Fernandez=~$350

Does Freddie get $1,570? I don't think so. And despite them not being as strong Ryu still sells great.

enyouartist · 07-14-2015, 09:55 PM

I understand the OP's frustration. He obviously is a Ryu collector, so a Freddie Freeman superfractor does not come close to his original redemption of a RYU superfractor, pink, camo, etc.

zac949 · 07-14-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

This. ^^^^^^^

Also, if the OP didn't request replacements then Topps should have sent replacements.

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

Nothing. The actual cards. He didn't request any replacements.

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Originally Posted by ForzaMilan92

For some it would, but when you are so close to completing the rainbow to you're PC man which you've been working on for two years, I dont think you care about a card you didn't even want AND is worth way less then what you should be receiving.

At least there are a few others that actually see this for what it is. Thanks for the kind words. I have absolutely ZERO interest in Freeman and would take Ryu any day of the week (even while he's out for the season).

EDMTunesCollect · 07-14-2015, 09:56 PM

Idk about the others but I would definitely take that freeman super over the ryu. Ryu has absolutely dropped quite a bit

zac949 · 07-14-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xbignick

I don't think that's fair just based on their own valuations. $2,230 there?

Green Harvey=~$60
Machados=~$90
Jose Fernandez=~$100
Blue Jose Fernandez=~$350

Does Freddie get $1,570? I don't think so. And despite them not being as strong Ryu still sells great.

Thank your for a simple breakdown so people actually see it for what it is...a total ripoff.

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Originally Posted by enyouartist

I understand the OP's frustration. He obviously is a Ryu collector, so a Freddie Freeman superfractor does not come close to his original redemption of a RYU superfractor, pink, camo, etc.

I actually pulled the Super which is what inspired me to complete the rainbow the best I could.

VWBUS1978 · 07-14-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Topps must have realized that they weren't going to get Ryu to sign these so they proactively replaced them. No point in making him wait.

So, in a roundabout way, it's Ryu's fault.
As he isn't signing the cards for Topps.

Or is it Topps' fault for inserting redemptions
of a "highly sought after" import they knew
wouldn't sign to sell product.
I'd probably guess the latter.

no10pin · 07-14-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

I understand that. That's a whole other issue (redemptions shouldn't expire IMO). I just don't agree with 1/1's or cards that should have been in other releases being used as replacements. Companies really need to figure a better plan. I know it will never happen and most people probably really don't care. I just think they need to try much harder to get the cards live in the product or soon after if it's a redemption.

I get your point, but he was waiting on a superfractor too. I don't have a problem with them replacing one with the other in the case of an expired redemption.

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VWBUS1978 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SOUTH JERSEY Posts: 5,820 Vwbus1978 Vwbus1978	Totally understand your issue with this, I just wish topps would take a dump like this in my mailbox! __________________ the fact that we exist, in a universe of sheer randomness, is scientific proof that there are aliens. we are the aliens. i can say that with 100% accuracy.

07-14-2015, 09:54 PM	#44
xbignick Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 29,307 xxbignick	I don't think that's fair just based on their own valuations. $2,230 there? Green Harvey=~$60 Machados=~$90 Jose Fernandez=~$100 Blue Jose Fernandez=~$350 Does Freddie get $1,570? I don't think so. And despite them not being as strong Ryu still sells great. __________________ @xxbignick on twitter

07-14-2015, 09:37 PM	#26
Conrad Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,314 conrads_cards	wow, congrats man.........

07-14-2015, 09:37 PM	#27
Crazybella8 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,174	A superfractor as a replacement? Are you kidding me. That to me is a joke. A chase card at the time of release and even if it was a redemption, complete garbage that it would be a replacement. And then if it was a redemption could you imagine someone opening the product now and pulling it for topps to then say oh sorry expired but look we gave it to somebody for their other redemptions that we can't make. Joke joke joke!

07-14-2015, 09:38 PM	#31
HYPTZEMDSTRPLES Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,850	I would think that Freeman would be worth a nice chunk of change.

07-14-2015, 09:55 PM	#45
enyouartist Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,735	I understand the OP's frustration. He obviously is a Ryu collector, so a Freddie Freeman superfractor does not come close to his original redemption of a RYU superfractor, pink, camo, etc.

07-14-2015, 09:56 PM	#47
EDMTunesCollect Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 5,692 goldenspikessportscards	Idk about the others but I would definitely take that freeman super over the ryu. Ryu has absolutely dropped quite a bit