2015 Prospect Rush Draft Hit Parade

[uberfatty]

Originally Posted by wmelchior628

I looked at the value of one of the worst boxes I have seen opened so far, and I thought it was relevant

The 10 unopened packs had a retail cost of about $90 thanks to the inflated cost of 09, 11, and 12 packs
The case is worth $60
Going extremely conservative, the 10 non slabbed cards would fetch about $100 on eBay total
That's $250
Say the original 1/1 sketch card is worth $100
Now we got $350
The KB scratch was a loser = $0
4 of the 10 slabbed cards had a resale of $10-15 each
2 might get $20 each
2 might get $30 each
2 might be $250 each

Total value estimate was $1100, so ROI about 39%

I have about 150 2014 Bowman Chrome Autos and more than a 5k box of unsorted cards. Since I never pulled a Urias, KB, Betts, or any big color in all the boxes I opened so I am thinking if I spent 20 hours sorting, listing, and trying to sell lots, I might get the same ROI before resale labor is included further lowering my ROI. I was extremely unlucky on that product, just as he was unlucky with this product.

Considering each box of prospect rush starts at a minimum of $250 before a single card is contained, I bet you can't find a box worth less than $900 resale value which would be a 33% ROI. Much better than a lotto ticket and much better than most cases of cards.

Only responding to this to comment that most lotteries I've seen (powerball, sctratchoff, etc) actually have ~60% of the total ticket value paid out, overall. No idea where you are getting that 33% is "much better than a lotto ticket."

[Metsfan1121]

I think ROI on this is about:
20% of the time = ~$1,000 (35%)
40% of the time = ~$1,500 (55%)
30% of the time = ~$1,800 (65%)
5% of the time = ~$2,100 (75%)
5% of the time = $2,500+ (90%+)

[preakness]

Originally Posted by RobDerhak

Intelligent post

Yet you mentioned selling unscratched Bryant cards for $50 when boxes going for several grand in
Hopes of getting chance for kB

Wonder if s single buyer of box would sell unscratched for $50
Y guess is 0 out of 300

[Metsfan1121]

Originally Posted by uberfatty

Only responding to this to comment that most lotteries I've seen (powerball, sctratchoff, etc) actually have ~60% of the total ticket value paid out, overall. No idea where you are getting that 33% is "much better than a lotto ticket."

He's not saying 33% is better, he's saying the minimum of 33% is better than that of the lotto (0%). Overall on this I'd say is 55%

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by Metsfan1121

I think ROI on this is about:
20% of the time = ~$1,000 (35%)
40% of the time = ~$1,500 (55%)
30% of the time = ~$1,800 (65%)
5% of the time = ~$2,100 (75%)
5% of the time = $2,500+ (90%+)

Do you really believe that 30% of the boxes will have an $1800 ROI? Have you seen 2 boxes so far with even close to that?

[RobDerhak]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Do you really believe that 30% of the boxes will have an $1800 ROI? Have you seen 2 boxes so far with even close to that?

See, its comments like this that make you lose all credibility

Schrawber red
Ajax super

Discussed in this thread.

Not to mention the dozens of other cards that will hit that # on their own, not to mention the 5 that will go to Chicago

[xbignick]

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[chadc13]

This might be the biggest scam/rip off product ever. Cancel your order!!!!

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by RobDerhak

See, its comments like this that make you lose all credibility

Schrawber red
Ajax super

Discussed in this thread.

Not to mention the dozens of other cards that will hit that # on their own, not to mention the 5 that will go to Chicago

Well you named 2 cards that allegedly are worth nearly $2k by themselves. (I should check to see if any completed items have sold near these numbers on like superfractors and such.)

I really don't think you should be judging others' opinions based on how far your nose is up someone's anal region with your viewpoints.

I wonder if 10 out of 300 boxes have a 100% ROI. I doubt it.

[xbignick]

Originally Posted by xbignick

Break List

(1 Box) Blowout Member: darealstunna- Thread Link
(1 Box) Blowout Member: Afton9444 - Thread Link
(3 Boxes) Houdini Group Break #1 - Video Link
(3 Boxes) Houdini Group Break #2 - Video Link
(3 Boxes) Houdini Group Break #3 - Video Link
(3 Boxes) Houdini Group Break #4 - Video Link
(3 Boxes) Houdini Group Break #5 - Video Link
(3 Boxes) RynemCaseBreaks Break #1 - Video Link
(3 Boxes) RynemCaseBreaks Break #2 - Video Link
(1 Box) RKCollectibles Break #1 - Video Link
(1 Box) RKCollectibles Break #2 - Video Link
(1 Box) Jewcer2k5 Break #1 - Thread Link
(1 Box) Redsmitty03 Break #1 - Recap Link
(1 Box) Redsmitty03 Break #2 - Thread Link
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28 Boxes Total Linked (9.33% of production)



(Mostly linking this so I can watch on my phone later but sure others would like it as well.)

Added Redsmitty's.

[gmarutiak]

I just spent the last hour or so reading through this thread, starting at page 1, and I felt like I was having a Haiku flashback, due to the similarities:
1. OP posts something that several people go nuts over, telling the OP how awesome he is.
2. Anyone who posts dissenting words of warning gets crushed by the masses.
3. The truth comes out.
4. The dissenters are proven correct.
5. A few people lose a lot of money.
6. Even fewer people still try to defend the OP.
7. I'm thankful I didn't get involved.

[wmelchior628]

Originally Posted by uberfatty

Only responding to this to comment that most lotteries I've seen (powerball, sctratchoff, etc) actually have ~60% of the total ticket value paid out, overall. No idea where you are getting that 33% is "much better than a lotto ticket."

33% on a single box. Most lotto tickets are payout or lose 100%

You forget that with the KB winner and the handful of other BIG cards the overall ROI might not be that far off.

Some will be losers. Some will be big losers, thanks to a top heavy product.

And to the people complaining about me giving a $60 resale value to the case itself... I'll gladly pay $60 for one if anyone has one for sale at $60. The cardboard can be recycled comment that someone made was moronic

[preakness]

Originally Posted by RobDerhak

See, its comments like this that make you lose all credibility

Schrawber red
Ajax super

Discussed in this thread.

Not to mention the dozens of other cards that will hit that # on their own, not to mention the 5 that will go to Chicago

2 out of 300 so far

7 out of 300 including the 5KB

[Metsfan1121]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Do you really believe that 30% of the boxes will have an $1800 ROI? Have you seen 2 boxes so far with even close to that?

Out of the 15 or so boxes so far I've seen, I'd say 3-4 of them were (and the one with the schwarber was $2500+). And I think the small sample we've seen has been slightly weaker than average will be.

[RobDerhak]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Well you named 2 cards that allegedly are worth nearly $2k by themselves. (I should check to see if any completed items have sold near these numbers on like superfractors and such.)

I really don't think you should be judging others' opinions based on how far your nose is up someone's anal region with your viewpoints.

I wonder if 10 out of 300 boxes have a 100% ROI. I doubt it.

You are really pathetic. Enjoy trolling, I'm done feeding the trolls.

[preakness]

Adding the value of the pelican case to help with ROI argument is moronic

If I'm buying cards I want cards

I don't want to have to sell the container to get funds back

Quit including resale value of pelican case

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by RobDerhak

You are really pathetic. Enjoy trolling, I'm done feeding the trolls.

Yep, anyone that disagrees is a troll. Story of this thread!

[Metsfan1121]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Well you named 2 cards that allegedly are worth nearly $2k by themselves. (I should check to see if any completed items have sold near these numbers on like superfractors and such.)

I really don't think you should be judging others' opinions based on how far your nose is up someone's anal region with your viewpoints.

I wonder if 10 out of 300 boxes have a 100% ROI. I doubt it.

Schwarber red
AJax super
Syndergaard super
gallo purple
Trout refractor auto
5 KB's
Bryant blue

That's 11 off the top of my head. I'd say there's probably at least 15 with at most 25

[preakness]

Originally Posted by Metsfan1121

Schwarber red
AJax super
Syndergaard super
gallo purple
Trout refractor auto
5 KB's
Bryant blue

That's 11 off the top of my head. I'd say there's probably at least 15 with at most 25

25/300 = 8%

I just realized I have spent way too much of past hour in this thread when I really don't care

[HadWayTooMuch]

Watching another beating on breaker.tv right now...

[Metsfan1121]

Originally Posted by preakness

25/300 = 8%

I just realized I have spent way too much of past hour in this thread when I really don't care

I estimated 5%, he asked if I think there's 10 boxes (~4%)

[JMPKCP]

Wasn't the Ajax super just the non-auto? That certainly isn't worth anywhere close to $2500.

Blackjack has a 200% ROI a little less than 50% of the time.
This product has a 200% ROI less than 1% of the time.

[Metsfan1121]

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Wasn't the Ajax super just the non-auto? That certainly isn't worth anywhere close to $2500.

Blackjack has a 200% ROI a little less than 50% of the time.
This product has a 200% ROI less than 1% of the time.

It's the super auto. Also, blackjack has better odds than pretty much any form of gambling (except baccarat I've heard)

[preakness]

This product needs more Ryan Ripken purples
Those are worth at least $200 each

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by preakness

This product needs more Ryan Ripken purples
Those are worth at least $200 each

Then 8 in each box would then make it a 75% ROI total on average!