Lebron James Exquisite rc 3cl BGS 9.5 worth ??? - Page 2

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 07-21-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownbears22

They have been more flat than anything, and that was after raising due to his second finals win. Him going back to Cleveland has boost this card. 50K is what I believe a 9.5 would go to a private buyer.

Trust me if I had a BGS 9.5 LeBron I would sell it for $45k right now to you at a discount.

iceman122781 · 07-21-2014, 04:10 PM

How many Lebron James Exquisites contain a 3cl patch. As a high end Crosby collector there are approximately 22-25 3cl cup rc's .

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

I completely understand this, thats why I put a premium on the BGS 9.5. I guess just not enough of a premium. But $50k, I have to see to believe. After reading CardGems post its clear I was off. I was basing my opinion off of last years data and the fact that high end 2003-04 Exquisite card prices have been flat or down since then.

This is my second BGS 9. I was dumb and sold the first one after he lost in the finals to Dallas for a whoping 10K. Then he cranked off 2 titles and the card blew up. I spent a lot of hard work following the Lebron RPA's to find another quality one. I watched the evolution of the value of this card the last 4 years and it went from about 8k in 2010 to 13K in 2011 to 17k late 2012 then it just seemed noone was selling this card then this last year it was back selling for 20k+. I actually had excepted that I overpaid to just get my hands on one but turns out so was a lot of other people. These last few months I've seen a lot of these change hands and everytime its between 22k to 25K. The one that sold the highest was a ungraded one just last week but that may have been luck on the part of the seller and the hype right now. The reason I waited so long is it has taken me this long to save up for it lol.

Dwade Collector · 07-21-2014, 04:21 PM

When dealing with a card of this caliber, a BGS 9.5/10 could easily double the raw value. These exquisite cards are extremely sensitive which always makes them even more valuable.

Also, no owner out there would let their lebron exquisite rookie go for less than $20k+ is what it seems like. Good luck getting them for $11k lol

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman122781

How many Lebron James Exquisites contain a 3cl patch. As a high end Crosby collector there are approximately 22-25 3cl cup rc's .

I have a digital libary of about 60 of them and almost all of them have 3clr patches.

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 07-21-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CardGems

This is my second BGS 9. I was dumb and sold the first one after he lost in the finals to Dallas for a whoping 10K. Then he cranked off 2 titles and the card blew up. I spent a lot of hard work following the Lebron RPA's to find another quality one. I watched the evolution of the value of this card the last 4 years and it went from about 8k in 2010 to 13K in 2011 to 17k late 2012 then it just seemed noone was selling this card then this last year it was back selling for 20k+. I actually had excepted that I overpaid to just get my hands on one but turns out so was a lot of other people. These last few months I've seen a lot of these change hands and everytime its between 22k to 25K. The one that sold the highest was a ungraded one just last week but that may have been luck on the part of the seller and the hype right now. The reason I waited so long is it has taken me this long to save up for it lol.

Yeah, I followed much of his rookie Exquiste prices from 2011-now, but one thing I didn't take into account was private sales data and the fact that him going back to Cleveland may cause his rookie card prices rise in the intermediate. Now if he wins a title in Cleveland in the next few years, $50k for this card will certainly be reached sooner than later.

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 07-21-2014, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwade Collector

When dealing with a card of this caliber, a BGS 9.5/10 could easily double the raw value. These exquisite cards are extremely sensitive which always makes them even more valuable.

Also, no owner out there would let their lebron exquisite rookie go for less than $20k+ is what it seems like. Good luck getting them for $11k lol

Who said 11k?

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

Yeah, I followed much of his rookie Exquiste prices from 2011-now, but one thing I didn't take into account was private sales data and the fact that him going back to Cleveland may cause his rookie card prices rise in the intermediate. Now if he wins a title in Cleveland in the next few years, $50k for this card will certainly be reached sooner than later.

Yeah Lebron has to be the first guy in history to lose that bad in the Finals and his RC actually gets hyped up the following off season.

iceman122781 · 07-21-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CardGems

I have a digital libary of about 60 of them and almost all of them have 3clr patches.

Thank you for your valuable input

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 07-21-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CardGems

Yeah Lebron has to be the first guy in history to lose that bad in the Finals and his RC actually gets hyped up the following off season.

So if his BGS 9.5 Exquisite RC #/99 is around $30k with him back in Cleveland, where could you see the price at had he stayed in Miami?

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

So if his BGS 9.5 Exquisite RC #/99 is around $30k with him back in Cleveland, where could you see the price at had he stayed in Miami?

That deal I worked with the guy for 30K was during the finals and I'm pretty sure we all knew he was gonna lose. He told me if Lebron won that it would be slightly more. This move has hyped it in the same way. Im sure he's watching this auction closely. This card sales close to 40K then it will raise the bar for a 9.5 which is possible. Trust me he will know ether the guy selling it personaly or the one buying it. He's really connected with Exquisite collectors.

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 05:00 PM

You know if he would have stayed in Miami I think it would have diped slightly like 27K at least until he made another run at a title. But in the long run I think most will agree this is gonna be a good investment. For someone keeping it till he retires I see no risk unless he does something awful off the court.

I know another guy with a BGS 9.5 and spoke with him and he said he is absolutly not interested in selling it no matter what price is offered. Maybe I missed my chance but I'm satisfied with what I have.

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 07-21-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CardGems

You know if he would have stayed in Miami I think it would have diped slightly like 27K at least until he made another run at a title. But in the long run I think most will agree this is gonna be a good investment. For someone keeping it till he retires I see no risk unless he does something awful off the court.

I know another guy with a BGS 9.5 and spoke with him and he said he is absolutly not interested in selling it no matter what price is offered. Maybe I missed my chance but I'm satisfied with what I have.

I don't blame him. I wouldn't sell a LeBron BGS 9.5 either, at least not until decades down the line, if at all.

Same goes for your card, unless somehow you could sell it for a good enough price then put the proceeds into buying the BGS 9.5 without having to come out of pocket to much more.

Nyfancam01 · 07-21-2014, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

Should be around $15k-$18k IMO.

no chance.

this will go wayyyy higher than that. probably 40+

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 07-21-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

no chance.

this will go wayyyy higher than that. probably 40+

Previous estimate has been revised upward.

Why $40k+?

ninjacookies · 07-21-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CardGems

I watched the evolution of the value of this card the last 4 years and it went from about 8k in 2010 to 13K in 2011 to 17k late 2012 then it just seemed noone was selling this card then this last year it was back selling for 20k+.

Gee. This seems like the crux of every high end Jordan insert 'shill' conspiracy theory thread on here, amirite?

But you'll never see those same people posting in a Lebron James thread...(hence the term, 'hate')

I'd probably say around 20k raw, and probably 30k+ for a nice 9.5 copy. Who really knows, they don't pop up often and the people that have them are holding them hostage.

I'd love to see what the 23/23 gold would sell for at open auction.

elee712 · 07-21-2014, 06:26 PM

I would think any LeBron rpa's that changes hands are done privately...
In the past few months there have been several on ebay but they were listed at an outrageously high price and suddenly taken down after a few days, replaced by a random picture and no trace that it was a LeBron exq rpa unless you had it on your watch list and remembered what it was. I would imagine if they ever sell, it is off of ebay.

I did see a raw one a year or so back listed by an Asian seller, mini-sea - sold as BIN for 13,500. The condition was not great and it was a one or two color plain patch but it was snagged fairly quickly. It was listed late night and picked up in the morning before I woke up. Even with the condition not being that good, it seemed like a steal.

GemMT · 07-21-2014, 06:46 PM

Thanks for this thread and the tips on the current going rate. I unfortunately sold a couple of RAW copies years ago when they were around 8K, but have recently been looking for a nice 3 Color BGS 9.5 to add to my PC. Being from Ohio and a longtime Cleveland fan, I sure hope my bid gets accepted, or at least reasonably countered. Crossing my fingers =)

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elee712

I would think any LeBron rpa's that changes hands are done privately...

In the past few months there have been several on ebay but they were listed at an outrageously high price and suddenly taken down after a few days, replaced by a random picture and no trace that it was a LeBron exq rpa unless you had it on your watch list and remembered what it was. I would imagine if they ever sell, it is off of ebay.

I did see a raw one a year or so back listed by an Asian seller, mini-sea - sold as BIN for 13,500. The condition was not great and it was a one or two color plain patch but it was snagged fairly quickly. It was listed late night and picked up in the morning before I woke up. Even with the condition not being that good, it seemed like a steal.

Yes the guy that snagged that one sold me mine. That was the first one he offered me for 17k and It was a sliver away from a 1 color. It wasn't worth 17k to me that patch was an eyesore.

iceman122781 · 07-21-2014, 07:59 PM

Just imagine what this King James card would go for if there weren't so many three color patches. 3cl Crosby Cup Rc's go for over 25k . Crazy!

Kingofkings1281 · 07-21-2014, 08:13 PM

If a Michael Jordan "Flashback" card can reach $40k, I'm assuming that the true rookie card of one of the greatest of all time graded 9.5 could reach the same heights. I know it wouldn't even be a decision for me if I were to choose between the two.

CardGems · 07-21-2014, 08:45 PM

There's a lot of 3clr Lebrons but not all of them look unique. Some look boring but a handful of them have some sick breaks that do command a premium IMO.

Hopkins · 07-21-2014, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownbears22

You are comparing a 9 to 9.5. There is a big difference to highend set collectors. There are not a lot of 9.5 for that set in general, yet along LeBron.

Show me one that has sold for 50k or more other than the 23/99…..

f1element · 07-21-2014, 09:07 PM

last gold bron exq rap sold for 26k , i figure a 3 color bbs 9/10 /99 is worth 22k so a bbs 9..5 which is like a pop 20 is probably worth 5k more. 27k total

hermanotarjeta · 07-21-2014, 09:48 PM

blowout members monopoly money estimate - $50k

reality when you are the one actually shelling out the cash - $25k

It's hilarious when folks who make less than $50k a year and/or still live in their parent's basements give estimates of what monster cards should sell for.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, but people need to back up their estimates with hard evidence of what they actually paid for one - those are the people I would believe.

07-21-2014, 06:46 PM	#43
GemMT Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 99 gemmt.com GemMT	Thanks for this thread and the tips on the current going rate. I unfortunately sold a couple of RAW copies years ago when they were around 8K, but have recently been looking for a nice 3 Color BGS 9.5 to add to my PC. Being from Ohio and a longtime Cleveland fan, I sure hope my bid gets accepted, or at least reasonably countered. Crossing my fingers =) __________________ Buying High End Sealed Cases & Rookies! FAVES: Anthony Davis, Matt Ryan, Stephen Curry, Tom Brady, Lebron, Crosby, Connor McDavid and just about any of the Columbus Blue Jackets.

07-21-2014, 08:13 PM	#46
Kingofkings1281 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,674 Kingofkings1281	If a Michael Jordan "Flashback" card can reach $40k, I'm assuming that the true rookie card of one of the greatest of all time graded 9.5 could reach the same heights. I know it wouldn't even be a decision for me if I were to choose between the two. __________________ Always looking for high end Vince Carter, Randy Moss and Tom Brady. http://kingofkings1281.imgur.com

07-21-2014, 09:07 PM	#49
f1element Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 534 f1element	last gold bron exq rap sold for 26k , i figure a 3 color bbs 9/10 /99 is worth 22k so a bbs 9..5 which is like a pop 20 is probably worth 5k more. 27k total Last edited by f1element; 07-21-2014 at 09:08 PM. Reason: spelling

07-21-2014, 04:10 PM	#27
iceman122781 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Montreal Posts: 29 iceman122781 iceman122781	How many Lebron James Exquisites contain a 3cl patch. As a high end Crosby collector there are approximately 22-25 3cl cup rc's .

07-21-2014, 04:21 PM	#29
Dwade Collector Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,200	When dealing with a card of this caliber, a BGS 9.5/10 could easily double the raw value. These exquisite cards are extremely sensitive which always makes them even more valuable. Also, no owner out there would let their lebron exquisite rookie go for less than $20k+ is what it seems like. Good luck getting them for $11k lol

07-21-2014, 05:00 PM	#37
CardGems Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 66 card.gems	You know if he would have stayed in Miami I think it would have diped slightly like 27K at least until he made another run at a title. But in the long run I think most will agree this is gonna be a good investment. For someone keeping it till he retires I see no risk unless he does something awful off the court. I know another guy with a BGS 9.5 and spoke with him and he said he is absolutly not interested in selling it no matter what price is offered. Maybe I missed my chance but I'm satisfied with what I have.

07-21-2014, 06:26 PM	#42
elee712 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,635 elee712	I would think any LeBron rpa's that changes hands are done privately... In the past few months there have been several on ebay but they were listed at an outrageously high price and suddenly taken down after a few days, replaced by a random picture and no trace that it was a LeBron exq rpa unless you had it on your watch list and remembered what it was. I would imagine if they ever sell, it is off of ebay. I did see a raw one a year or so back listed by an Asian seller, mini-sea - sold as BIN for 13,500. The condition was not great and it was a one or two color plain patch but it was snagged fairly quickly. It was listed late night and picked up in the morning before I woke up. Even with the condition not being that good, it seemed like a steal.

07-21-2014, 07:59 PM	#45
iceman122781 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Montreal Posts: 29 iceman122781 iceman122781	Just imagine what this King James card would go for if there weren't so many three color patches. 3cl Crosby Cup Rc's go for over 25k . Crazy!

07-21-2014, 08:45 PM	#47
CardGems Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 66 card.gems	There's a lot of 3clr Lebrons but not all of them look unique. Some look boring but a handful of them have some sick breaks that do command a premium IMO.

07-21-2014, 09:48 PM	#50
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 24,420	blowout members monopoly money estimate - $50k reality when you are the one actually shelling out the cash - $25k It's hilarious when folks who make less than $50k a year and/or still live in their parent's basements give estimates of what monster cards should sell for. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but people need to back up their estimates with hard evidence of what they actually paid for one - those are the people I would believe.