need help!!!!!!!

[Giancarlo27]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

no, noone sees the buyers remorse here, everyone goes against me, always.

when you conduct yourself like a fool as you have here for a long time, people rarely side with you

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

no, noone sees the buyers remorse here, everyone goes against me, always.

I see a big as* dent in a card that I would be furious about if I had bought it. You've learned absolutely NOTHING from this. You're heading down the same path as nearly every other liar or member who couldn't just suck it up and accept responsibility. Wonder where they all went?

You've proven you cannot handle yourself in a professional manner when dealing with an issue WHICH IS CLEARLY YOUR FAULT. Instead you just keep whining about it blaming the buyer like they did something wrong.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

im just going to buy the next big thing like a bryant or abreu and if the card doesn't go up in value im going to return it. it's such easy money. And i guess noone cares.

And maybe the seller won't disclose any flaws in the card and tell you it is clean.

What a loser. Such a loser that he started this thread knowing the truth would be exposed. Wow.

[coyne81486]

Originally Posted by ChicagoCubsWS

because the card is damaged

it's a RAW card, your buying a card which your not sure of the grade, its not damaged. Grantid, i shoulda disclosed the dimple, but it will take hours to examine a card and put EVERY single flaw.

[ChicagoCubsWS]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

it's a RAW card, your buying a card which your not sure of the grade, its not damaged. Grantid, i shoulda disclosed the dimple, but it will take hours to examine a card and put EVERY single flaw.

Really? It took me 2 minutes of looking at your scan and gilmo's picture to see it

[coyne81486]

Originally Posted by Adamchuk

I think its time to get out of this hobby for me. You bought a raw card. It has a dimple, who cares. Before BGS this was never an issue. Now every auction I run I get 4 questions
How are the corners
How is the surface
Is the back centered
How are the edges

Its a raw card. I am not BGS, and while I do grade, I feel liable giving people answers to these questions if there isn't anything major. But then buyer gets it and disagrees with my assessment. Does that make me wrong? It shouldn't, but it does.

i wanna bring this back up, when buying a raw card people, don't expect 10s.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

it's a RAW card, your buying a card which your not sure of the grade, its not damaged. Grantid, i shoulda disclosed the dimple, but it will take hours to examine a card and put EVERY single flaw.

except.....

Originally Posted by coyne81486

I do admit that i did see the dimple there, that i did not disclose,

BTW a dimple is damage/flaw(stop splitting hairs) in my book unless every card has it.

[ChicagoCubsWS]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

i wanna bring this back up, when buying a raw card people, don't expect 10s.

I wanna bring back up, that if items are damaged then they should be disclosed.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

it's a RAW card, your buying a card which your not sure of the grade, its not damaged. Grantid, i shoulda disclosed the dimple, but it will take hours to examine a card and put EVERY single flaw.

Then contact the buyer, give him a full refund, he'll return the card and you can move on.

[coyne81486]

Originally Posted by ChicagoCubsWS

I wanna bring back up, that if items are damaged then they should be disclosed.

it's not damaged.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

it's a RAW card, your buying a card which your not sure of the grade, its not damaged. Grantid, i shoulda disclosed the dimple, but it will take hours to examine a card and put EVERY single flaw.

Ray Charles could have seen that dimple.

[coyne81486]

Originally Posted by xplainer

Then contact the buyer, give him a full refund, he'll return the card and you can move on.

i want to but everyones making a big scene and the buyer won't answer me.

[Adamchuk]

Originally Posted by ChicagoCubsWS

because the card is damaged

The card isn't damaged. Its a raw card that most likely came out of the pack that way. Surface dimples happen all the time. I have plenty of high end cards with surface dimples (albeit significantly less noticeable).

That is what I am so up in arms about with this whole convo. Yes OP lied. Buyer bought a raw card, its not hard. Did he pay gem prices or did he pay raw prices? He paid raw prices and got what he paid for. I am not supporting either person here, OP clearly lied, I have a major problem with that, just saying.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

it's a RAW card, your buying a card which your not sure of the grade, its not damaged. Grantid, i shoulda disclosed the dimple, but it will take hours to examine a card and put EVERY single flaw.

This is what my favorite Teacher back in High School would say to people who made excuse after excuse and never took accountability for their actions:

"Excuses are for losers."

[coyne81486]

once i get this card back im going to grade it, ill show you guys.

[coyne81486]

Originally Posted by Adamchuk

The card isn't damaged. Its a raw card that most likely came out of the pack that way. Surface dimples happen all the time. I have plenty of high end cards with surface dimples (albeit significantly less noticeable).

That is what I am so up in arms about with this whole convo. Yes OP lied. Buyer bought a raw card, its not hard. Did he pay gem prices or did he pay raw prices? He paid raw prices and got what he paid for. I am not supporting either person here, OP clearly lied, I have a major problem with that, just saying.

what did i lie about?

[Lex Kreations]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

what did i lie about?

Originally Posted by coyne81486:

I do admit that i did see the dimple there, that i did not disclose,

just in case you just completely missed that

[xbignick]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

what did i lie about?

Well, should have been honest about him requesting a full refund first before the partial. You tried to get people to side with you and even when asked about it you skipped those posts.

You saw the dimple, so you could obviously note it. Taking hours to define a bunch of cards is different than writing a single sentence of something you said you knew about.

[ChicagoCubsWS]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

what did i lie about?

Are you on drugs?

1. You said you saw the dimple but didnt disclose it

[Adamchuk]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

what did i lie about?

The surface dimple is significant, you already admitted that you didn't disclose it, regardless of context of the questions being asked. So you maybe its not lying but being a little dishonest. And you didn't disclose the full context of the convo in the OP. Just agree to that and move on

[kevinh1919]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

once i get this card back im going to grade it, ill show you guys.

I'd save the "grading money" in an effort to issue a full refund to the buyer.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

it's not damaged.

Originally Posted by Adamchuk

The card isn't damaged. Its a raw card that most likely came out of the pack that way. Surface dimples happen all the time. I have plenty of high end cards with surface dimples (albeit significantly less noticeable).

That is what I am so up in arms about with this whole convo. Yes OP lied. Buyer bought a raw card, its not hard. Did he pay gem prices or did he pay raw prices? He paid raw prices and got what he paid for. I am not supporting either person here, OP clearly lied, I have a major problem with that, just saying.

That card is DAMAGED. Are you both blind? That hardly qualifies as a simple "Surface Dimple".

Just because it came out of the pack like that does not make it normal. So tired of these lame excuses.

If I buy a card from you and I ask you if there are any issues with it you darn well better tell me about a surface dimple/dent. None of this "well it's raw" bull.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by coyne81486

no, noone sees the buyers remorse here, everyone goes against me, always.

If anyone knows the person who bought this card this is when you call them and tell them to open a case NOW.

[coyne81486]

Originally Posted by Adamchuk

The surface dimple is significant, you already admitted that you didn't disclose it, regardless of context of the questions being asked. So you maybe its not lying but being a little dishonest. Just admit that and move on

ive admitted it multiple times throughout the thread, i was wrong not disclosing it, i did not know dimples were that significant.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by xbignick

Well, should have been honest about him requesting a full refund first before the partial. You tried to get people to side with you and even when asked about it you skipped those posts.

You saw the dimple, so you could obviously note it. Taking hours to define a bunch of cards is different than writing a single sentence of something you said you knew about.

exactly... A clear omission to complete the sale