Don't Kill The Messenger: Rumor about a BO Member At The National - Page 7

frozenntimesports · 08-02-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

I can tell you without a doubt one was signed with a sharpie and one a staedtler with the ink colors side by side. So whomever did it wasnt too smart.

No chance that Arcia went back and did his social media cards with a second pen?

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Originally Posted by Rossman

I think his silence speaks volumes. He's caught, the best way is to avoid it with vague answers and statements like, I don't have time for this. My guess is he was hoping this would pass without much discussion and then pull it off for bigger guys than Arcia. Regardless of people and their perpetrating being a "baller". Money makes people stupid. Guaranteed of this didn't come up, it would've grown from here. It's such a bad fake, it's laughable. Time to fess up and admit to being a scammer.

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Originally Posted by lakesidez

Busy........or trying to think of an elaborate response to justify his intentions\actions. The truth only takes 2 seconds where a lie goes on forever.

The dude is set up at the National. Have you ever set up at the National? There are very few lulls and with his inventory of cards infinitely more valuable than this Arcia, I wouldn't leave my table either.

I've done deals with MC. He's always been a straight shooter. If he tells me that this was pack pulled, I'm accepting it.

Its funny how I've never heard of several posters on this thread until today.

thebrett · 08-02-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

FWIW, Michael Vick does own a dog.

Was it numbered to 500?

calculusdork · 08-02-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thebrett

Was it numbered to 500?

Almost definitely.

calculusdork · 08-02-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Remember that $5,000 Cingrani bounty? That card, along with another 8 Cingrani chrome autos were lost by this very same person.

Uhhhhhh .....

patsfan1106 · 08-02-2013, 11:05 AM

Yikes! Just skimmed the pages! YIKES

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Sikkcaden · 08-02-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by frozenntimesports

No chance that Arcia went back and did his social media cards with a second pen?

With completely different hand writing?

The Social Media Cards are /10, this is out of /500. Mike said HE PULLED THE CARD.

So either someone at topps added a fake inscription or mike did...but a lot of evidence suggests Mike did.

Dbott1234 · 08-02-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by calculusdork

Well not "obviously", I can't see the back of the card.

I don't know anything about these cards, that's why I asked.

Oh ok, I'm sorry. I thought it was a sarcastic thing. They are number out of 10.

Bob Loblaw · 08-02-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

While I can appreciate where you're coming from, I hope you can appreciate that I used Mike C for my grading up until February of this year. This was someone that I sent all of those cards you see in my threads to, and trusted to send them back to me.

Remember that $5,000 Cingrani bounty? That card, along with another 8 Cingrani chrome autos were lost by this very same person.

I have hundreds of thousands of dollars "invested" in this hobby, this business, and have no patience for someone who is trying to scam money from others. It's not good for me, it's not good for you ... not good for anyone.

3 hours is 2 hours to long IMHO.

And if get gets away with 9 autos, then next time he can get away with more. . .

statman32 · 08-02-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Remember that $5,000 Cingrani bounty? That card, along with another 8 Cingrani chrome autos were lost by this very same person.

While I don't agree with the need for a quick response considering where he is at, the above sentence is another nail in the coffin.

Adamchuk · 08-02-2013, 11:08 AM

I heard the source was Adam Schefter....or is the OP Adam Schefter, he only speaks in sources

sunsfan8 · 08-02-2013, 11:09 AM

Damn broken link.

Uh, er. Oh no!

dodger · 08-02-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sikkcaden

It's hilarious to me all the excuses being made for this guy. So what if he does numbers, I think this proves that he's willing to cut corners and be dishonest when selling.

How many of his 9.5's are trimmed or manipulated? Is that not a valid question now?

If I were one of these people who had done "thousands of dollars of business" with this guy, I'd probably be checking my prior purchases from him with a microscope, rather than professing how I'd "instantly do another deal right now".

calculusdork · 08-02-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dbott1234

Oh ok, I'm sorry. I thought it was a sarcastic thing. They are number out of 10.

No worries, this board is rampant with sarcasm so I understand.

oldgoldy97 · 08-02-2013, 11:09 AM

People have such short memory spans.

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 11:12 AM

Here is a Jairo Beras Social Media... it is #'d 6/10. 2013 Jairo Beras BGS 9 5 Bowman Chrome Social Media Refractor Auto RC 06 10 | eBay

The pen does look slightly different on all of them that I see though... Not saying anything one way or the other

Sikkcaden · 08-02-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sikkcaden

***Will update the OP with this***

My "source" just gave me permission to post his interaction with the seller.

After telling him he did the inscription the following interaction took place:

Source: "Why are you telling me this?"
Mike: "What are you going to do about it?" and then laughed.

My source chooses to stay out of this. If you guys want to choose a valued, trusted member, I can give him my source, he can contact him for confirmation as long as he doesn't tell everyone who it is.

For those that missed it in all of the action

achantl · 08-02-2013, 11:12 AM

I've worked with Mike multiple times as well and he always seemed to be a stand up guy. I think that's what makes this so confusing/frustrating/etc as most felt he was one of the "good ones" on these boards. I've read this entire thread and am not sure what to think. There is mounting evidence of some wrong doing here and Mike's responses haven't been very helpful, but I'm holding out hope that Mike will come forward and give a detailed description of his side of the story.

Mike, I know you're swamped at the National, but maybe a post stating that you'll share your side when time permits would be better than just blowing off what's going on. I really don't want this to be true.....

"Say it ain't so Mike, say it ain't so..."

Sikkcaden · 08-02-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dlab85

Here is a Jairo Beras... it is #'d 6/10. 2013 Jairo Beras BGS 9 5 Bowman Chrome Social Media Refractor Auto RC 06 10 | eBay

Right..those are /10, this is /500 with completely different handwriting than the prospect's.

PistolPete7 · 08-02-2013, 11:13 AM

The things people will do to make a quick buck. Sad.

NeedChapmans · 08-02-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by statman32

While I don't agree with the need for a quick response considering where he is at, the above sentence is another nail in the coffin.

That situation was not handled well. The package came to me in shambles, and Mike admitted to packing loose Cingrani's (in a large flat rate Priority).

The addition to the OP doesn't help either. "What are you going to do about it". What innocent man has ever spoken those words?

phabphour20 · 08-02-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Addison

Well if he wants to see it, I'll buy him some bacon.

Mmmmm... bacon.

I'm sure this would grade 9.5 (bacon st).

mikecamp99 · 08-02-2013, 11:14 AM

This has probably already been stated in this thread, but to all the people whose response was "Well he's a stand up guy, one of the real legit, nice guys on the board," Just remember that was the arguement by many when the whole Haiku thing went down.

Also I can't help but think of this when everyone keeps calling him a "nice" guy lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1valYG9IVI

nhsportsguy · 08-02-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

That situation was not handled well. The package came to me in shambles, and Mike admitted to packing loose Cingrani's (in a large flat rate Priority).

The addition to the OP doesn't help either. "What are you going to do about it". What innocent man has ever spoken those words?

Who said he ever spoke those words?

Do any of you know what hearsay is?!

OregonYankeeFan · 08-02-2013, 11:17 AM

Andddd another garbage member on blowout. Hopefully he never comes back

oldgoldy97 · 08-02-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

This has probably already been stated in this thread, but to all the people whose response was "Well he's a stand up guy, one of the real legit, nice guys on the board," Just remember that was the arguement by many when the whole Haiku thing went down.

Also I can't help but think of this when everyone keeps calling him a "nice" guy lol:

Tommy Boy "Hmm, he seems like a nice guy" - YouTube

And people who have been taken by a scammer or con-man don't usually want to admit that it happened. Denial and such.

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dlab85 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: MA Posts: 5,020 danes_deals dlab85	Here is a Jairo Beras Social Media... it is #'d 6/10. 2013 Jairo Beras BGS 9 5 Bowman Chrome Social Media Refractor Auto RC 06 10 \| eBay The pen does look slightly different on all of them that I see though... Not saying anything one way or the other __________________ Follow me on Twitter @85CaseBreaks uStream link - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dlab85-case-breaks

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achantl Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Puyallup, Wa. Posts: 4,390 chant1424	I've worked with Mike multiple times as well and he always seemed to be a stand up guy. I think that's what makes this so confusing/frustrating/etc as most felt he was one of the "good ones" on these boards. I've read this entire thread and am not sure what to think. There is mounting evidence of some wrong doing here and Mike's responses haven't been very helpful, but I'm holding out hope that Mike will come forward and give a detailed description of his side of the story. Mike, I know you're swamped at the National, but maybe a post stating that you'll share your side when time permits would be better than just blowing off what's going on. I really don't want this to be true..... "Say it ain't so Mike, say it ain't so..." __________________ Sorry I do not ship to Canada/internationally at the moment Photobucket:http://s1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/achantl/

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mikecamp99 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 7,160 mdcamp1120	This has probably already been stated in this thread, but to all the people whose response was "Well he's a stand up guy, one of the real legit, nice guys on the board," Just remember that was the arguement by many when the whole Haiku thing went down. Also I can't help but think of this when everyone keeps calling him a "nice" guy lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1valYG9IVI __________________ INCOMING:

08-02-2013, 11:17 AM	#174
OregonYankeeFan Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 326	Andddd another garbage member on blowout. Hopefully he never comes back