Super Rare Arod Autograph Error Question 1:614,088 Packs

[MetDude]

At OP
Did you ever go by the handle
thesmith00
on another card forum?

[MetDude]

look what I found on worthpoint....

2005 BOWMAN CHROME ALEX RODRIGUEZ SUPERFRACTOR 1 OF 1

non auto version superfractor



I guess its fake since OP insists no superfractors were made at all.

[MarshallCutler6]

OP can you just:

A. Post a Pic of the BGS slab showing what you have

or

B. Admit youre lying and stop this nonsense.

[Ryan T.]

Originally Posted by MetDude

look what I found on worthpoint....

2005 BOWMAN CHROME ALEX RODRIGUEZ SUPERFRACTOR 1 OF 1

non auto version superfractor



I guess its fake since OP insists no superfractors were made at all.

hahahahahahaha

[hche]

Originally Posted by MetDude

look what I found on worthpoint....

2005 BOWMAN CHROME ALEX RODRIGUEZ SUPERFRACTOR 1 OF 1

non auto version superfractor



I guess its fake since OP insists no superfractors were made at all.

SICK!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!

[MetDude]

oh and then theres these lovely tidbits that I found yet other forums from years ago

since i dont want to post direct links to other forums, click the google search then click the first 2 results.

Google

the second one is especially interesting as it is the OP's first post verbatim
with exception to what he left out here on Blowout
(click the jump to text, or just go strait to post # 44 on the second result)

I tried to contact the customer service department and even asked if Mr Luraschi could email me back himself since he had prior knowledge of the problem.

I think Mr Luraschi tried to call me back one time and I missed his call but I would rather do things through email that way there are no misunderstandings later on.

The regular customer service emails basically kept telling me to send it in and they would replace it. But my question back to them was always replace it with what?

I did take it a step further and filed a complaint with the BBB and Topps did send me off a card as a replacement but I don't feel the replacement is fair for this card.

The replacement card is a 2002 Topps Autographs TA-19 Alex Rodriguez.

This card was in two Topps series and the odds to pull were Series 1 D 1:9,853 H, 1:2,714 HTA, 1:7,284 R and Series 2 A 1:10,071 H, 1:2404 HTA, 1:7702 R.

I guess I appreciate their effort and trust by sending this card off to me first but I have told them it is not acceptable and I will be returning it.

[DaBaddestHic]

Originally Posted by MetDude

look what I found on worthpoint....

2005 BOWMAN CHROME ALEX RODRIGUEZ SUPERFRACTOR 1 OF 1

non auto version superfractor



I guess its fake since OP insists no superfractors were made at all.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh snap!

My first post to this thread was going to be that I couldn't wait until the Superfractor auto showed up on ebay so that the OP could see that he didn't really have the 1/1. Thank god we don't actually have to wait for that to happen!

Although, since that isn't the auto'd version, the OP (who I don't really think is trolling but doesn't want to admit that what they have is just an error card that slipped through the cracks) will probably make up more excuses.

Dave, I just don't believe you have a card that was supposed to be a 1/1. The actual 1/1 version of this card is either still in a pack somewhere, or in someone's collection. (Or maybe in a landfill somewhere.) I'm not sure why they printed out multiple copies of the non superfractor versions, but it was probably some sort of test. See other cards like the 2005 Donruss Inside View cards. Those cards were never meant to be put in packs, but some were. Topps probably printed a sheet of the Arod throwback cards from 94 with the intention to destroy them later, and then printed the superfractor version later and had that autographed and placed in a pack.

So, what you most likely have is a test card that was never actually meant to be autographed. If you want to get it autographed now then so be it, but it's not Topps' problem, and it doesn't deserve a Topps sticker on it. I'd suggest getting it autographed and selling it as an in person autograph. Even though it's not a true 1/1, it's still a unique card that you could sell to someone.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by MetDude

look what I found on worthpoint....

2005 BOWMAN CHROME ALEX RODRIGUEZ SUPERFRACTOR 1 OF 1

non auto version superfractor



I guess its fake since OP insists no superfractors were made at all.

I have no idea what that card is but it is clearly not autographed as the label says.

I do know what card I have though.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

The auto version may come as a superfractor( I didn't think so per checklist), but it also comes as a non superfractor 1/1 auto as posted, b/c I was searching for this card when it was released.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I have no idea what that card is but it is clearly not autographed as the label says.

I do know what card I have though.

Well since the slab says auto
I guess THAT person should crack it and get it signed huh ????

Point being - you insist that the superfractors werent made.
Clearly you are wrong.

[davepeters239]

Both Topps and BGS have verified my card as the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

I will post a full pic when I can and anyone can check with Topps to verify.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by MetDude

Well since the slab says auto
I guess THAT person should crack it and get it signed huh ????

Point being - you insist that the superfractors werent made.
Clearly you are wrong.

There were other arod throwbacks made in other Topps products that year.

Like I said I do not know what that card is but I am certain it is not the autograph card and I am certain mine is legit.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I have no idea what that card is but it is clearly not autographed as the label says.

I do know what card I have though.

I give up, obviously you DO NOT know what you have as there has been many examples of proof contradicting your claims yet you are too stubborn or naive to hear any of it as the facts that they are

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Both Topps and BGS have verified my card as the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

I will post a full pic when I can and anyone can check with Topps to verify.

You are right, this is the actual 1/1 auto for the 1994. There is a version of this w/ the auto and NOT a superfractor.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by duwal

I give up, obviously you DO NOT know what you have as there has been many examples of proof contradicting your claims yet you are too stubborn or naive to hear any of it as the facts that they are

Again the card has been verified as authentic and legit by both Topps and BGS.

What is there to understand.

But please do not take my word for it, contact Topps and BGS.

What you are calling facts I am saying are mistakes. I am sorry so many people are mistaken about this but I am not going to admit something when I know I am right.

Sorry

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

There were other arod throwbacks made in other Topps products that year.

Like I said I do not know what that card is but I am certain it is not the autograph card and I am certain mine is legit.

Yep yours is definitely a legit manufacturers error that was never intended to have an auto or be realeased.

The auto 1/1 should look just like that one, except with the topps certified stamp, the fade out area on the bottom, and of course, an autograph.

So what did you do with the 2002 Arod auto topps sent you as a result of that BBB claim from 3 years ago ?

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Again the card has been verified as authentic and legit by both Topps and BGS.

What is there to understand.

But please do not take my word for it, contact Topps and BGS.

What you are calling facts I am saying are mistakes. I am sorry so many people are mistaken about this but I am not going to admit something when I know I am right.

Sorry

Now youre contradicting yourself.
In the above quote you state topps says it legit.
Here you state they told you it was accidentally inserted in to the pack
both cant be true.

"During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs. Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation."

[DaBaddestHic]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

You are right, this is the actual 1/1 auto for the 1994. There is a version of this w/ the auto and NOT a superfractor.

Why do you keep saying this? Will you please provide proof that there was both a Superfractor auto 1/1 and a non Superfractor 1/1 meant to be inserted into this product? Because if what you're saying is true, then all the arguing about superfractor vs non superfractor is pointless.

The arguing about why multiple ones were released or putting a sticker on it is stilll legit though :P

[cowboyzqna]

This. Is. Dumb.

[death2redemptions]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Both Topps and BGS have verified my card as the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

I will post a full pic when I can and anyone can check with Topps to verify.

Your either a fu*king moron or just a troll...

Your card is NOT a 1/1...it does NOT have a 1/1 foil stamp...
Neither Topps or BGS ever said your card was a 1/1
I've never heard of a 1/1 non-superfractor version of that card...there is however a superfractor version...yours is NOT a superfractor...all superfractors are 1/1's which all have the 1/1 foil stamp...again, yours is not a superfractor and it's not a 1/1 non-superfractor because once again, there is no 1/1 foil stamp. There is NO evidence your card is in anyway a 1/1....

[Davesportscards]

I don't understand why the OP thinks this card is a 1/1???????? Even if it is...."Congratulations! You now possess a one of a kind non-auto, void, null, worthless, back-doored, non-stamped, un-approved Alex Rodriguez Throwback Reprint Card! We hope you enjoy this piece of MLB history as we TRY to keep you closer to the game with our crappy quality control! Sincerely Topps! " See! Now that clears everything up!

[Cubs_rock21]

This might be the most exciting thing to happen to Dave Peters in his life and you all are stripping it from him!

Dave real talk Alex Rodriguez doesn't give a #@#@#@#@ about you

[Aleister]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Because I want out of the hobby I have actually recently emailed a bunch of companies to ask about getting cards fixed and was going to post the response in the other forums.

Out of Press Pass, Sage, Benchwarmers, Donruss / Playoff / Leaf / Panini only Benchwarmers responded.

When I relized what the arod was, the 1 of 1 I knew right away this was an error I wanted fixed. This was the best card from that set that year and the odds to pull it were 1:614,088 packs and according to the readers writes comments this was a card that did not get autographed because it had stuck to another card or something.

In December 2005 the original owner of this card wrote into Beckett magazine and Clay Luraschi responded. The response was that, "During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs. Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation."

Now I don't know if that was a true story by Topps or what but they did say it and it is in the Beckett magazine. It is also very clear that Topps says anyone in possession of them should contact them, which again I did.

It does not say only of you got it from a pack or this offer is only good for a year.

Just give up. We know what happened - you bought an unsigned card that was released years ago and you want the card to be a pack pulled autograph, but it will NEVER be.

You have 2 options.

1 - leave the card the way it is, the way you bought it.

2 - have Arod sign it at your expense. It would then be an In Person auto NOT a Topps certified auto. End of story.

[stera8]

This is the new "boomo" thread

[Aleister]

Originally Posted by stera8

This is the new "boomo" thread

Or Haiku Jr.

What the Op doesn't see (forest for the trees) is that the card if auto'd and sticker'd could be sold to someone who buys it with the intention of ripping someone off for a chunk of $.

Edit - The $$ are blocking his view.