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Old 12-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #126
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I think that population report may be for the un-autographed versions but can't say for sure.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #127
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how is it a 1/1 when the pop report from BGS shows 12 have been graded?
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:59 PM   #128
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Why would I report you

I have tried my best to get this card corrected. Topps won't fix it, Beckett won't acknowledge it as an error. Arod's friend or agent or wheoever I spoke to was the only cool person in all of this and really wanted to help fix it.

If I do get it autographed and get stickers placed on it I will be very honest about all of that when I sell it.

Like I said it is very easy for people to poke fun but I suspect if some here had a card with the odds to pull at over a half a million and a 1 of 1 they wouldn't think it so funny.

I have started to sell off my cards to maybe get a car for my mom and because the hobby is no fun anymore. You have card companies doing all sorts of shady things and then you have to deal with some of the mean people who have cluttered this thread with nonsense.

Those odds are not for your card though, they are for the Superfractor version
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:00 PM   #129
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From what you have shown of yourself in this thread I would quit this hobby before you get yourself in some hot water peddling fake merchandise. Your BS, while in refreshing complete thoughts and sentences, is still BS.

One more thing, leave Topps Customer Service alone! They do not deserve to have to deal with people like you.

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Why would I report you

I have tried my best to get this card corrected. Topps won't fix it, Beckett won't acknowledge it as an error. Arod's friend or agent or wheoever I spoke to was the only cool person in all of this and really wanted to help fix it.

If I do get it autographed and get stickers placed on it I will be very honest about all of that when I sell it.

Like I said it is very easy for people to poke fun but I suspect if some here had a card with the odds to pull at over a half a million and a 1 of 1 they wouldn't think it so funny.

I have started to sell off my cards to maybe get a car for my mom and because the hobby is no fun anymore. You have card companies doing all sorts of shady things and then you have to deal with some of the mean people who have cluttered this thread with nonsense.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:02 PM   #130
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Those odds are not for your card though, they are for the Superfractor version

No the odds are correct for this card at 1:614,088

I have checked and double checked to be sure.
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Why would I report you

I have tried my best to get this card corrected. Topps won't fix it
Nor should they.

Petesahutt eloquently stated several other possibilities,
your card doesnt not even appear to be a refractor
let alone a Superfractor (what else could the SF tag mean?)
per your first post,
Topps admitted the possibility of there being an unknown number of unsigned cards in the product
Its 7 years later and
you were not the original owner.

You did not get cheated out of a pack/box/case "hit" in any way.
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No the odds are correct for this card at 1:614,088

I have checked and double checked to be sure.

you may have checked and double checked but your card certainly isn't the superfractor card that would be the 1/1 that you are trying to state. The odds for the 1/1 Superfractor card would have the word Super-Fractor in the space below the 94A-AR on the back of the card as well as a clear 1/1 stamp on the lower back of it. Also it would have the complete front of the card covered in a gold reflective prism.

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No the odds are correct for this card at 1:614,088

I have checked and double checked to be sure.
No,

the odds for the ACTUAL 1/1 card is 1:614,088
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Nor should they.

Petesahutt eloquently stated several other possibilities,
your card doesnt not even appear to be a refractor
let alone a Superfractor (what else could the SF tag mean?)
per your first post,
Topps admitted the possibility of there being an unknown number of unsigned cards in the product
Its 7 years later and
you were not the original owner.

You did not get cheated out of a pack/box/case "hit" in any way.

All I want to do is enforce the COA or warranty on the card.

Each autograph card is certified as to being an authentic autograph card.

With the autograph missing it cannot be authenrtic.
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you may have checked and double checked but your card certainly isn't the superfractor card that would be the 1/1 that you are trying to state

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Yes that is this card.

It has been verified with both Topps and BGS so there is ni mistake.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:14 PM   #136
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Yes that is this card.

It has been verified with both Topps and BGS so there is ni mistake.
Where is your verification? You say yourself that you cant remember what the BGS label states. Do you think that the card in your 2nd post is a superfractor?
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All I want to do is enforce the COA or warranty on the card.

Each autograph card is certified as to being an authentic autograph card.

With the autograph missing it cannot be authenrtic.
How do you enforce an invalid COA/warranty when the blank space said "Not valid without sticker"????? So theoratically, because Topps didn't put the sticker, the COA/warranty was never valid.
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All I want to do is enforce the COA or warranty on the card.

Each autograph card is certified as to being an authentic autograph card.

With the autograph missing it cannot be authenrtic.
Without the stickers being placed on there, there is not a COA for any autograph. That is why that system is in place.

It was not autographed and therefore it does not have a completed COA which would constitute the printed material on the card along with the Topps certification stickers.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:15 PM   #139
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2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball Box - Complete Set Checklist



- Base / 1st Year / Rookie - Parallel Cards -
All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:

~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4) ~
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Just read through this and I must say, OP is a weirdo.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:17 PM   #141
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2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball Box - Complete Set Checklist



- Base / 1st Year / Rookie - Parallel Cards -
All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:

~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4) ~

yes and yours is without question not the 1/1 Superfractor parallel
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Yes that is this card.

It has been verified with both Topps and BGS so there is ni mistake.
I have to think that this guy is just making an attempt to troll the boards at this point.

It is readily evident that this card is not a superfractor, yet he continues to insist that it is without any supporting information despite everything else indicating that it's not.

Now he states that it has been "verified with both Topps and BGS" and yet earlier he couldn't recall exactly what was on the BGS label.
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2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball Box - Complete Set Checklist



- Base / 1st Year / Rookie - Parallel Cards -
All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:

~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4) ~
The one you posted is neither a superfractor or stamped 1/1? Why dont you think yours was supposed to be one of the /500 autographs? Are you seriously that oblivious?
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2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball Box - Complete Set Checklist



- Base / 1st Year / Rookie - Parallel Cards -
All Cards Except Alex Rodriguez Throwbacks Are Found in These Parallels:

~ Refractor #/500 ~ X-Fractor #/225 ~
~ NEW Blue #/150 ~ Gold #/50 ~ Red #/5 ~
~ Superfractor #1/1 ~ Printing Plates #1/1 (4) ~
Those are the non-autos.
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lol at this guy
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #146
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yes and yours is without question not the 1/1 Superfractor parallel
There were no superfractors for the throwback cards.

It says right there in the beginning of the checklist.

I don't think Topps has the info on their site but you miht be able to cal or email and double check with them.
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I second this . . . . . . . . . . .. Have fun folks . . . .
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The one you posted is neither a superfractor or stamped 1/1? Why dont you think yours was supposed to be one of the /500 autographs? Are you seriously that oblivious?


actually for the Alex Rodriguez Throwback parallel autograph card it was the 1/1 Superfractor, the xfractor versions #/25, refractor versions #/50 and then the regular chrome version which was #/99

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There were no superfractors for the throwback cards.

It says right there in the beginning of the checklist.

I don't think Topps has the info on their site but you miht be able to cal or email and double check with them.
You are wrong. Please read the whole checklist if you are quoting something. From the same site you posted:



2005 Bowman Chrome Baseball - A-Rod Throwback Exclusives Checklist

Base Cards - 4 Per Box
Parallel Cards: Refractor #/499 - X-Fractor #/99
- SuperFractors #1/1 -

A-Rod Throwback Base #94AR 1994
A-Rod Throwback Base #95AR 1995
A-Rod Throwback Base #96AR 1996
A-Rod Throwback Base #97AR 1997

Autograph Parallel Cards
- All Cards Are Refractors - Print Run Shown Below -

A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1
A-Rod Throwback Autographs #95AR 1995 XF #/25
A-Rod Throwback Autographs #96AR 1996 RF #/50
A-Rod Throwback Autographs #97AR 1997 CH #/99
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There were no superfractors for the throwback cards.

It says right there in the beginning of the checklist.

I don't think Topps has the info on their site but you miht be able to cal or email and double check with them.
Beckett says otherwise and from what you say . . . . youve already cleared it with BGS . . . . .

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