Super Rare Arod Autograph Error Question 1:614,088 Packs

[davepeters239]

I have done nothing wrong and all I am doing is fixing something Topps should have fixed, so perhaps it is Topps you might not want to deal with.

[hche]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I have done nothing wrong and all I am doing is fixing something Topps should have fixed, so perhaps it is Topps you might not want to deal with.

Well, it depends on what kind of sticker you are sticking on it.

It is an error card back in 2005. The original original didn't get it fixed/replaced. Topps' current policy is not to replace anything that is not a current year product. So I don't see how Topps is wrong on this. They may be amazed by how far you are going to get the card signed but they are not obligated to certify it as authentic after 7 years.

Furthermore, it is probably rarer as an unsigned card.

[sthoemke]

Don't wreck the card by having Arod write on it

[37Jetson]

Do not let your enormous sense of entitlement trump what is legal and the right thing to do.

If you had not run your mouth on a public message board you would have had a much better chance of pulling off your sticker swaperoo.

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I have done nothing wrong and all I am doing is fixing something Topps should have fixed, so perhaps it is Topps you might not want to deal with.

[texas]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what he said

[monkeymcgee]

I think you should contact CardCop about this issue

[smackvay]

why not have arod sign it and send it to psa or bgs and have the auto graded as authentic? that would be your best bet. the second you go switching around stickers you are going to make the card worthless

[davepeters239]

I don't think the one year rule for replacements really apply to certified autographs cards missing the autograph. To me this seems more like a quality control issue or a warranty issue.

Either way it is rare being a 1 of 1 card and unless Beckett really lists it as an error or it is fixed its not worth as much as it could be.

As much as I dislike Beckett the they do influence pricing on some things. Why do those NNOF Frank Thomas sell for so much? I think its because Beckett prices them high.

It is very easy to make fun or make rude comments when the card is not yours and if anything I think people would be mad at Topps and not me about all this.

With all that said if someone wants to make me a high dollar offer for the card to take it off my hands it can become their card and they can not worry about it all they want.

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I don't think the one year rule for replacements really apply to certified autographs cards missing the autograph. To me this seems more like a quality control issue or a warranty issue.

Either way it is rare being a 1 of 1 card and unless Beckett really lists it as an error or it is fixed its not worth as much as it could be.

As much as I dislike Beckett the they do influence pricing on some things. Why do those NNOF Frank Thomas sell for so much? I think its because Beckett prices them high.

It is very easy to make fun or make rude comments when the card is not yours and if anything I think people would be mad at Topps and not me about all this.

With all that said if someone wants to make me a high dollar offer for the card to take it off my hands it can become their card and they can not worry about it all they want.

So, despite that fact that another member has posted scans of the EXACT SAME CARD, yours is still a 1/1?

The one-year replacement is about quality control...they're not going to replace a card over a year old. Unless I'm misreading, they wanted to replace the card for you at one point, but you refused?

Beckett means very little to a majority of the collecting population. Anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed and stuck in the 90's.

[37Jetson]

Just 80 posts and you are attempting to be one of the least trustworthy blowout members. I would like to recognize this amazing feat



I am truly sorry that you did not make thousands of dollars off the misprint that you found in somebody's dollar box. Give the kind folks at Topps Customer Service a break from your fury of BS.

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I don't think the one year rule for replacements really apply to certified autographs cards missing the autograph. To me this seems more like a quality control issue or a warranty issue.

Either way it is rare being a 1 of 1 card and unless Beckett really lists it as an error or it is fixed its not worth as much as it could be.

As much as I dislike Beckett the they do influence pricing on some things. Why do those NNOF Frank Thomas sell for so much? I think its because Beckett prices them high.

It is very easy to make fun or make rude comments when the card is not yours and if anything I think people would be mad at Topps and not me about all this.

With all that said if someone wants to make me a high dollar offer for the card to take it off my hands it can become their card and they can not worry about it all they want.

[davepeters239]

The other person said they have the card and offered to post scans of the back but never did so I an unsure.

I don't think they have a choice either way but to replace autograph cards missing the autograph no matter how old the product. The players don't autograph these cards for free, the teams don't let them use their names or logos free and Topps certainly doesn't give away the cards for free. So all along the way money is involved and it seems like what a lot are saying is I am the one who should be left holding the bag at the end.

Sorry no that's not gonna happen.

I won't do anything illegal though but I will certainly try to fix something Topps should have.

Topps did make an offer, at first they said send it in and they will send me a replacement. When asked a replacement of what they never would say.

I filed with the BBB and like a year after i filed Topps contacted me and offered some boxes or something which I declined. Thread after thread in forum after forum I see how Topps says they will replace for equal Beckett value. Well since this doesn't really have a Beckett value I would only trade with them for a similar 1 of 1 with similar odds to pull.

As for not people using Beckett, oh how I wish that were true but to me it seems that a lot of people still use Beckett for values.

It amazes me how this is ok with everyone. I would think anyone who bought this product in 2005 or at anytime after would be furious now knowing they never even had a chance to pull the best card from that set.

[Mrpokey]

Being generous today, I'd offer you $5 for the card, and that includes shipping. LMK, yes I'm being serious I won't go up a penny more.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

In December 2005 the original owner of this card wrote into Beckett magazine and Clay Luraschi responded. The response was that, "During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs. Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation."

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Either way it is rare being a 1 of 1 card and unless Beckett really lists it as an error or it is fixed its not worth as much as it could be.

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I was thinking of getting it autographed by Arod and affix my own stickers from say other cards.

The autograph would be legit and the stickers don't have any meaning with the numbers and whatnot so would that be ok?

Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

So, despite that fact that another member has posted scans of the EXACT SAME CARD, yours is still a 1/1?

The one-year replacement is about quality control...they're not going to replace a card over a year old.

Let me see if I ve got this right... Despite the topps statement from 2005 and seeing another copy that has a certified auto stamp on it, OP believes his card is THE 1/1 that SHOULD have the auto, without once even considering the possibilty that there could be an autographed copy that has the stickers and the 1/1 stamp on it. OP also mentions the possibililty of getting an IP auto and then taking stickers from other cards to counterfeit the legitimacy of his "1/1" but believes that isnt doing anything wrong ?

Do I have that right ?

[DSizzle31]

Originally Posted by MetDude

Let me see if I ve got this right... Despite the topps statement from 2005 and seeing another copy that has a certified auto stamp on it, OP believes his card is THE 1/1 that SHOULD have the auto, without once even considering the possibilty that there could be an autographed copy that has the stickers and the 1/1 stamp on it. OP also mentions the possibililty of getting an IP auto and then taking stickers from other cards to counterfeit the legitimacy of his "1/1" but believes that isnt doing anything wrong ?

Do I have that right ?

You have all that right and yet I was called a d bag earlier in this thread for pointing out the ridiculousness of this quest.

Dan

[davepeters239]

Please don't comment on how trustworthy I am because you do not know me and I have said or done nothing to become untrustworthy.

Also please do not make comments that are untrue. This was not found in a dollar box.

Also give the folks at Topps a break? Are you kidding me with this?

[davepeters239]

How is correcting an error that Topps make me the bad guy?

If Topps cared about this card they would have made me a fair replacement offer and been done with it.

It really is that simple

And like I said if anyone wants to offer me a fair amount for the card I then go away and you can not complain about the card all you want.

It is very easy for people to make comments when the card isn't theirs it seems.

[hche]

Originally Posted by MetDude

Let me see if I ve got this right... Despite the topps statement from 2005 and seeing another copy that has a certified auto stamp on it, OP believes his card is THE 1/1 that SHOULD have the auto, without once even considering the possibilty that there could be an autographed copy that has the stickers and the 1/1 stamp on it. OP also mentions the possibililty of getting an IP auto and then taking stickers from other cards to counterfeit the legitimacy of his "1/1" but believes that isnt doing anything wrong ?

Do I have that right ?

I believe you are correct, sir.

[37Jetson]

You picked up a Misprint or Backdoored Card for virtually nothing and you are going to the ends of the earth using any means possible to possibly make a thousand dollars on a good day? The word Sociopath is coming to my mind.

Keep telling your personal story here so that you have no chance of conducting any business with the good folks on these boards.

Leave Topps alone.....

Originally Posted by davepeters239

The other person said they have the card and offered to post scans of the back but never did so I an unsure.

I don't think they have a choice either way but to replace autograph cards missing the autograph no matter how old the product. The players don't autograph these cards for free, the teams don't let them use their names or logos free and Topps certainly doesn't give away the cards for free. So all along the way money is involved and it seems like what a lot are saying is I am the one who should be left holding the bag at the end.

Sorry no that's not gonna happen.

I won't do anything illegal though but I will certainly try to fix something Topps should have.

Topps did make an offer, at first they said send it in and they will send me a replacement. When asked a replacement of what they never would say.

I filed with the BBB and like a year after i filed Topps contacted me and offered some boxes or something which I declined. Thread after thread in forum after forum I see how Topps says they will replace for equal Beckett value. Well since this doesn't really have a Beckett value I would only trade with them for a similar 1 of 1 with similar odds to pull.

As for not people using Beckett, oh how I wish that were true but to me it seems that a lot of people still use Beckett for values.

It amazes me how this is ok with everyone. I would think anyone who bought this product in 2005 or at anytime after would be furious now knowing they never even had a chance to pull the best card from that set.

[Nick2317]

and I thought CardCop was banned ......who knew?

[hche]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

You picked up a Misprint or Backdoored Card for virtually nothing and you are going to the ends of the earth using any means possible to possibly make a thousand dollars on a good day? The word Sociopath is coming to my mind.

Keep telling your personal story here so that you have no chance of conducting any business with the good folks on these boards.

Leave Topps alone.....

Obviously, OP is a "I am always right" person even though I think everyone posted said he is wrong.

We can all leave the thread and this thread will die.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

In December 2005 the original owner of this card wrote into Beckett magazine and Clay Luraschi responded. The response was that, "During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs. Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation."

Originally Posted by davepeters239

It amazes me how this is ok with everyone. I would think anyone who bought this product in 2005 or at anytime after would be furious now knowing they never even had a chance to pull the best card from that set.

Based on your very first post,
Why do you assume that the actual stamped 1/1 auto with the correct stickers was never made?

[jlzinck]

Dear IMac7065. I am sorry for any intentional non warranted jabs I have taken at you in the past.

In fact if this clown in the OP had done this before your infamous post people would not ever know your name.

Dear OP- You are king of the a$$hats

[davepeters239]

Some of you have been reported.

[WilsonValdez]

Oh.......David. Making friends, as always.

[Imac7065]

just wanted to throw out there I have seen one of these signed before. Not sure if the person faked it (it was hand marked 1/1).. but that would be the third confirmed copy of this card.