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ediii33 · 12-08-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tman109ner

What about Teo? He honestly should have won. All due respect to Johnny Football but Teo was absolutely unstoppable this year.

There have been several players with his type numbers in the past that were never even mentioned for the Heisman.

JoshHamilton · 12-08-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ediii33

Timmy Smith and Mark Rypien won championships. Did they have good pro careers?

You completely missed the point. Going by Pro Bowls, 38.9% of Heisman winners have been all pros as opposed to 38.1% of #1 draft picks

lambeauleap87 · 12-08-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tman109ner

What about Teo? He honestly should have won. All due respect to Johnny Football but Teo was absolutely unstoppable this year.

Stat-wise, he wasn't even the best linebacker on an undefeated team this year.

tivy22 · 12-08-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rmw10

Great numbers, but no competition. I doubt he could put up anything close to those numbers against top notch teams.

Top notch teams? What is the SEC? Chumps? He did pretty damn good this year. He led the SEC in rushing and broke many SEC single game records.

Sqeeshy · 12-08-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tivy22

Top notch teams? What is the SEC? Chumps? He did pretty damn good this year. He led the SEC in rushing and broke many SEC single game records.

He was referring to Jordan Lynch, who is in the MAC. Please read more carefully before jumping on someone next time.

tivy22 · 12-08-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by patchgenie

espn made it up

ESPN did not make it up. That's the name he got when he came Texas ATM. When he left his high school his nickname was "Johnny Antler." Represent Tivy alum.

tivy22 · 12-08-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by paparoke

I think it should have went to Jordan Lynch out of N Illinois. QB lead Div 1 in rushing 1771 w/ 19 TDs. Oh and he also threw for 2962 with 24 TD to 5 picks. He only finished 7th in the voting, I think he should have finished much higher. I know he played in a week conference, but those numbers are insane.

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Originally Posted by Sqeeshy

He was referring to Jordan Lynch, who is in the MAC. Please read more carefully before jumping on someone next time.

Sorry, did not read the previous comment. But give the freshman some props.

ediii33 · 12-09-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshHamilton

You completely missed the point. Going by Pro Bowls, 38.9% of Heisman winners have been all pros as opposed to 38.1% of #1 draft picks

All Pros or Pro Bowls? Big difference.

broncomanning18 · 12-09-2012, 12:34 AM

Anyone who thinks Teo deserved it, does not watch college football, his numbers fail to compare to some of the great defensive players and they didnt even sniff the heisman.

GatorBoyInTN · 12-09-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by broncomanning18

Anyone who thinks Teo deserved it, does not watch college football, his numbers fail to compare to some of the great defensive players and they didnt even sniff the heisman.

It was all because he plays at ND and "the game".

tajikey · 12-09-2012, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorBoyInTN

It was all because he plays at ND and "the game".

Manziel deserved it as much as Robinson did in 2010. Oh wait, their stats are the same, yet Robinson didn't get an invite.

It was all because he plays in the SEC and "the game."

Just another fly by night SEC QB that'll flop in the NFL, if he makes it that far. I can name quite a few others if you'd like.

FreeMan12406 · 12-09-2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MI Rob

Where did the "Johnny Football" nickname come from?

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Originally Posted by patchgenie

espn made it up

Johnny Football: A nickname coined in Aggieland, a legend crafted in the Hill Country

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The story would be better if Manziel had been Johnny Football while building his legend in high school, but the truth is the nickname is an Aggie invention.

"The reason we didn't call him Johnny Football was because he was an incredible baseball player," said Ables. "He could have played basketball if he wanted to play basketball, and you ought to see him hit a golf ball. If you see him hit a golf ball he can just knock it off the planet."

Smith seems to like the nickname. "I hear they call him Johnny Football now in Aggieland, and it's probably a pretty good moniker.

vike · 12-09-2012, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Manziel deserved it as much as Robinson did in 2010. Oh wait, their stats are the same, yet Robinson didn't get an invite.

It was all because he plays in the SEC and "the game."

Just another fly by night SEC QB that'll flop in the NFL, if he makes it that far. I can name quite a few others if you'd like.

So who should have won it then?

Every confrence have Qbs that put up crazy numbers each year that turn out to be flops.

You just can't stand any thing SEC!!

ediii33 · 12-09-2012, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Manziel deserved it as much as Robinson did in 2010. Oh wait, their stats are the same, yet Robinson didn't get an invite.

It was all because he plays in the SEC and "the game."

Just another fly by night SEC QB that'll flop in the NFL, if he makes it that far. I can name quite a few others if you'd like.

Haters gonna hate.

tajikey · 12-09-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vike

So who should have won it then?

Every confrence have Qbs that put up crazy numbers each year that turn out to be flops.

You just can't stand any thing SEC!!

I don't mind the SEC, but I do mind their fans. They're probably one of the most blindly obedient pack of homers in all of sports, with the innate ability to ignore every other team but those in the conference their team (probably the worst) plays in.

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Originally Posted by ediii33

Haters gonna hate.

Just a realist being real.

groundsupport · 12-09-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tman109ner

What about Teo? He honestly should have won. All due respect to Johnny Football but Teo was absolutely unstoppable this year.

unstoppable on defense? That doesn't make any sense.

GatorBoyInTN · 12-09-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Manziel deserved it as much as Robinson did in 2010. Oh wait, their stats are the same, yet Robinson didn't get an invite.

It was all because he plays in the SEC and "the game."

Just another fly by night SEC QB that'll flop in the NFL, if he makes it that far. I can name quite a few others if you'd like.

I think they should dismantle the SEC just to make you happy. Only way you will quit whining.

tajikey · 12-09-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorBoyInTN

I think they should dismantle the SEC just to make you happy. Only way you will quit whining.

Is that how you translate a fact, as whining? It's starting to make sense.

As you conveniently ignored, I don't mind the SEC, I mind their fans. Your response only supports my reasons why.

GatorBoyInTN · 12-09-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Is that how you translate a fact, as whining? It's starting to make sense.

As you conveniently ignored, I don't mind the SEC, I mind their fans. Your response only supports my reasons why.

Everytime the SEC gets brought up, you're always there complaining. It doesn't matter what it's about, you can be counted on to come and hate. The fans, the conference, whatever you want to say it is. It comes down to bitterness.

1eyed_jack · 12-09-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

He only led the nation in rushing because of the conference championship game, Kadeem Carey led the nation in yards per game and is still only like 15 yards shy of Lynch

Just sayin'

Eh, Jordan Lynch still had less rushing attempts

just sayin'

tajikey · 12-09-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorBoyInTN

Everytime the SEC gets brought up, you're always there complaining. It doesn't matter what it's about, you can be counted on to come and hate. The fans, the conference, whatever you want to say it is. It comes down to bitterness.

And you have to come in and preach the godliness of the SEC, even if it's possible the chips shouldn't have fallen how they did.

Is Bama good, yes. Do they deserve to play in the National Championship, yes. Is Manziel good, yes. Did A&M's victory over Bama erase the terrible performances against Florida and LSU from the minds of the Heisman voters, yes.

Does that make you feel better?

Sqeeshy · 12-09-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1eyed_jack

Eh, Jordan Lynch still had less rushing attempts

just sayin'

I'm sorry did you look at NIU's schedule?

ediii33 · 12-09-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

And you have to come in and preach the godliness of the SEC, even if it's possible the chips shouldn't have fallen how they did.

Is Bama good, yes. Do they deserve to play in the National Championship, yes. Is Manziel good, yes. Did A&M's victory over Bama erase the terrible performances against Florida and LSU from the minds of the Heisman voters, yes.

Does that make you feel better?

Against Florida he was 23-30 with no picks in his first game as a college qb. I can't believe they ignored such a terrible performance. I'll give you the bad performance against LSU.

broncomanning18 · 12-09-2012, 06:25 PM

Manziels performance against florida wasnt even horrible, you mean like teo having 5 tackles against wake forest, plus if you had actually watched the lsu game at all you would no 2 of the 3 interceptions came b/c of a dropped pass that hit evans in the chest and a miscommunication on a deep ball where the receiver cut it short dez bryant style. I love all people try to act like Manziel had bad games, but if Teo has 4 tackles that is somehow a great game because his team defense did great. Alot of stat skeweres out there if you even thought Teo should have been in the top 5 for heisman

ediii33 · 12-09-2012, 06:35 PM

Tajikey hates the SEC and everything about it. He'll make another one sided post and somehow try to flip it. He's never wrong about anything.

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broncomanning18 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 6,469	Anyone who thinks Teo deserved it, does not watch college football, his numbers fail to compare to some of the great defensive players and they didnt even sniff the heisman.

12-09-2012, 06:25 PM	#49
broncomanning18 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 6,469	Manziels performance against florida wasnt even horrible, you mean like teo having 5 tackles against wake forest, plus if you had actually watched the lsu game at all you would no 2 of the 3 interceptions came b/c of a dropped pass that hit evans in the chest and a miscommunication on a deep ball where the receiver cut it short dez bryant style. I love all people try to act like Manziel had bad games, but if Teo has 4 tackles that is somehow a great game because his team defense did great. Alot of stat skeweres out there if you even thought Teo should have been in the top 5 for heisman