WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[packman80]

Have Oba Femi destroy Evans during his entrance and take his place in the chamber or at least another heel. Taking out Evans won't be a loss he is just in there to be 1 or 2 big spots before he eats a pin.

[Cracktoast]

Sucks for Reed hopefully it was just a stinger type injury where his arm just went numb and not as serious as it looked.

[Jaypers]

Abyss sighting!!

[RedLabelRecords]

I’m starting to think they should show less of Gorilla. It’s enough that we have the Netflix show, stop breaking kayfabe during live events, maybe?

Hot take.

[Jaypers]

Biceps tear for Reed; out indefinitely. Man, this Vision may be cursed.

[bjho852]

Oh! My! Goodness! Congrats to Styles for being inducted into HOF! Undertaker delivering the news, no less!

[Jaypers]

Well earned for AJ. Kudos to him.

Now, who's gonna induct him? Frankie?

[Jaypers]

Originally Posted by bjho852

Undertaker delivering the news, no less!

Just like he did for Stephanie. This "grim reaper" has a new gimmick it seems.

[Cracktoast]

We need Gunther vs. Taker at some point sooner than later. Taker looks to be in decent shape to be able to pull it off and it wouldn't be a bunch of high flying spots because neither of them are built for that.

Now that we are apparently going on a everyone is scared to fight Brock Lesnar U.S. Tour what if the mystery Box ends up being his WM opponent ?

[mossoholic]

Can't believe they made me think for 30 seconds they booked Undertaker vs AJ Styles at WrestleMania. If they wanted to move those tickets at prices they can't sell them at that would have been a match to book. A Brock Lesnar open challenge sure isn't going to move anything. Neither is a 5 or 6 pack challenge match.

I know AJ says he's done but I hope Tony Khan at least makes him the big offer. Tony has literally paid out at least tens of millions maybe over $100 million the last few years to healthy wrestlers to stay at home and not have to work. Just Britt Baker and Jericho alone he's paid 8 figures to them to not work. Offer AJ $12-$15 million for 30ish appearances and 12 matches. Worst he can do is say no.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Can't believe they made me think for 30 seconds they booked Undertaker vs AJ Styles at WrestleMania. If they wanted to move those tickets at prices they can't sell them at that would have been a match to book. A Brock Lesnar open challenge sure isn't going to move anything. Neither is a 5 or 6 pack challenge match.

I know AJ says he's done but I hope Tony Khan at least makes him the big offer. Tony has literally paid out at least tens of millions maybe over $100 million the last few years to healthy wrestlers to stay at home and not have to work. Just Britt Baker and Jericho alone he's paid 8 figures to them to not work. Offer AJ $12-$15 million for 30ish appearances and 12 matches. Worst he can do is say no.

I think he has more class to go to AEW to just make a quick buck. Now if he went to TNA to have one last match maybe against Frank Kazarian I could see something like that happen to have one last real match in the company he became famous in.

Though I don't know if he wants that. They said he had a foot injury that he trained hard to recover from. Who knows if he wants to take chance that he wants to take any more injury risk and is happy in life and is ready to move on. I could see a trainer role at NXT or a trainer/on camera role with TNA be something he would do to pass his knowledge on to the next generation.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Biceps tear for Reed; out indefinitely. Man, this Vision may be cursed.

Man that group is just cursed. That could be a 6 month recovery time if not longer. Might be hoping a SummerSlam date could be the best he returns for. If not then probably a SurvivorSeries return.

Now with only Paul and Theory left I wonder if they just do something Heyman telling the two hey it's time you both go your own ways and just end the group.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by packman80

I think he has more class to go to AEW to just make a quick buck. Now if he went to TNA to have one last match maybe against Frank Kazarian I could see something like that happen to have one last real match in the company he became famous in.

Though I don't know if he wants that. They said he had a foot injury that he trained hard to recover from. Who knows if he wants to take chance that he wants to take any more injury risk and is happy in life and is ready to move on. I could see a trainer role at NXT or a trainer/on camera role with TNA be something he would do to pass his knowledge on to the next generation.

What's class have to do with it? AJ Styles has been basically an afterthought in WWE for years. By all accounts they knew well in advance when he was going to be done. Even then he was in a thrown together tag team for a big portion of time. Had 4 whole matches on PPV over the last year. It would have been 3 had Cena and fans not basically forced them into giving us last years 2nd best match of the year Cena vs Styles. Im not saying AJ is in Cena's league. But Cena got a full year. AJ basically got the Cena match by luck and then what maybe 6 weeks?

How many 1st time wrestling retirements have stuck? Of course he could just wait until WrestleMania 43, like Im sure many retired or basically retired wrestlers will be, to see what offer they get.

The big matches for AJ in AEW are realistically the only thing short term that can help their business or whatever they want to call it right now.

If he is going to continue to do actual work for WWE like anything in NXT or TNA as a trainer or on air he'd be working more dates than going to AEW for 1 year. It sounded like he actually wants to be retired. Not working a regular job in wrestling that's possibly hundreds of days a year on Im sure a salary thats nowhere near what he was making.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

What's class have to do with it? AJ Styles has been basically an afterthought in WWE for years. By all accounts they knew well in advance when he was going to be done. Even then he was in a thrown together tag team for a big portion of time. Had 4 whole matches on PPV over the last year. It would have been 3 had Cena and fans not basically forced them into giving us last years 2nd best match of the year Cena vs Styles. Im not saying AJ is in Cena's league. But Cena got a full year. AJ basically got the Cena match by luck and then what maybe 6 weeks?

How many 1st time wrestling retirements have stuck? Of course he could just wait until WrestleMania 43, like Im sure many retired or basically retired wrestlers will be, to see what offer they get.

The big matches for AJ in AEW are realistically the only thing short term that can help their business or whatever they want to call it right now.

If he is going to continue to do actual work for WWE like anything in NXT or TNA as a trainer or on air he'd be working more dates than going to AEW for 1 year. It sounded like he actually wants to be retired. Not working a regular job in wrestling that's possibly hundreds of days a year on Im sure a salary thats nowhere near what he was making.

He's only knocking on the door of 50 years old. I doubt he wants to sit at home and do nothing. He works few days a week on NXT or TNA in trainer role it gives him something to do. Also being retired IMO is just more the in ring as at 50 it's take a lot of time in the gym to keep your body build up to take the grind it takes to be an active wrestler.

[jmarascojr]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Regardless though, their plan was never 5 faces and 1 heel. Reed was going to win and Gable was in there to take the pin.

I mean, the champion is a heel so the expectation has to be a face is winning, no?

Whether it is 5 v 1 or 4 v 2... Trick ain't winning, Bronson Reed wasn't winning...

Evans isn't winning... Jey muddies it up a little bit, but they can't do that dance again...

Either way, it's coming down to LA Knight, Cody and Orton... My two cents...

[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by packman80

Man that group is just cursed. That could be a 6 month recovery time if not longer. Might be hoping a SummerSlam date could be the best he returns for. If not then probably a SurvivorSeries return.

Now with only Paul and Theory left I wonder if they just do something Heyman telling the two hey it's time you both go your own ways and just end the group.

Nahhh Breakker will be back by WM and they likely just replace Reed with someone else and move on as nothing happened. I can however see them dropping the whole masked man gimmick though. Have Paul/Theory win the tag titles at WM and the group will be fine.

[Cracktoast]

Everyone has been assuming that McIntyre will defend his title in a 3 eay against Rhodes and Fatu. But new reports have surfaced stating it could even be a 5 or 6 pack challenge in order to get as many stars on the card as possible. So basically everyone from EC lol

It seems McIntyre may not face only the winner of the WWE Elimination Chamber match.

New reports suggest WWE has different plans in mind. The company could be setting up a massive showdown for the champion at WrestleMania 42.WWE’s current plan does not involve a singles match for the title at WrestleMania 42. The report stated that the match could be a five-pack or even a six-pack challenge.

“At this point, it’s shaping up to be anything but a singles match. The expectation is a five-pack or even a six-pack challenge. It’s wild to think that Aleister Black, Jacob Fatu, and Sami Zayn could all be part of the WWE Title match at WrestleMania. Whether it’s a four-man, five-man, or even six-man, but certainly won’t be a one-on-one match.”

[mtr]

Pretty surprising that Raquel qualified over Iyo so maybe there's a storyline brewing here. Could she actually win at EC and then go on to beat Jade at Mania for the title? Then they could have Liv come up short against Stephanie leading to a jealousy angle and feud with her and Raquel.

[mtr]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Everyone has been assuming that McIntyre will defend his title in a 3 eay against Rhodes and Fatu. But new reports have surfaced stating it could even be a 5 or 6 pack challenge in order to get as many stars on the card as possible. So basically everyone from EC lol

I guess Drew attacking Randy on Smackdown could be the start of setting this up. I'd prefer they stick with a Triple Threat with Drew hopefully retaining and then Cody and Jacob feuding.

[Jaypers]

Assuming Logan and Theory stay healthy, they could face Seth and Bad Bunny in a tag match at WM. We could see Seth and Bunny come out in masks and reveal themselves to set it up.

Just spitballing here, now that the Brons are out.

[bjho852]

Originally Posted by mtr

Pretty surprising that Raquel qualified over Iyo so maybe there's a storyline brewing here. Could she actually win at EC and then go on to beat Jade at Mania for the title? Then they could have Liv come up short against Stephanie leading to a jealousy angle and feud with her and Raquel.

I think that Liv will come up short against Stephanie at 'Mania, regardless of the EC outcome.

If Raquel takes the belt off Jade at 'Mania, she will move to SD subsequently. The jealousy angle will have to be across both shows, which I doubt will happen this way.

[bjho852]

If 6-pack challenge is indeed the plan for the WWE title, then Sami might possibly win.

[bjho852]

While at it, I'd even throw out the potential idea of championship scramble?

[mtr]

Originally Posted by bjho852

I think that Liv will come up short against Stephanie at 'Mania, regardless of the EC outcome.

If Raquel takes the belt off Jade at 'Mania, she will move to SD subsequently. The jealousy angle will have to be across both shows, which I doubt will happen this way.

They seem to be OK with ignoring the brand split when it's inconvenient. They could just move Stephanie or Judgment Day to Smackdown to keep Liv and Raquel together.

[mtr]

Originally Posted by bjho852

If 6-pack challenge is indeed the plan for the WWE title, then Sami might possibly win.

I feel like Sami is done as a face title challenger for the near future. He had his shot and lost clean in the middle of the ring, what possible justification is there for adding him to the match at this point? The underdog gimmick has gotten stale and I think that if he's going to stay in the main event scene then he needs to turn heel.