25-26 NBA Regular Season thread.

[Chryghst]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Okay folks, were almost at Jan 25 and Denver is 8-4 since i posted this.

Any more discussion about how terrible the team is without Jokic, or are we going to start giving Jamal Murray his flowers?

Remember 9 months ago when everyone said Jokic deserved the MVP over SGA because he carried the Nuggets to a 4th seed while SGA had a super star supporting cast? Also whatever happened to that MPJ guy? Oh 25-7-3 on 48/39/85 splits….think that’s good, right?

That said, I definitely did not think Denver would be 8-4 without Jokic.

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by Chryghst

Remember 9 months ago when everyone said Jokic deserved the MVP over SGA because he carried the Nuggets to a 4th seed while SGA had a super star supporting cast? Also whatever happened to that MPJ guy? Oh 25-7-3 on 48/39/85 splits….think that’s good, right?

That said, I definitely did not think Denver would be 8-4 without Jokic.

Jamal Murray has stepped up big time and Peyton Watson has also taken a giant leap forward

[Chryghst]

Originally Posted by kipgen

Jamal Murray has stepped up big time and Peyton Watson has also taken a giant leap forward

Been a wild few months for Michael Malone apologists. From David Adelman not playing any young guys in the playoffs (Malone thought they were trash) to new GM bringing in vets like Bruce Brown, Hardaway, and Valanciunas (what Malone asked for) to the young guys turning out to carry the roster like Calvin Booth said they would if only Malone would give them a chance.

I thought NYK should have kept Thibs. When they fired him, I thought Malone was the best option available. But this year shows perhaps Malone was wrong about evaluating and developing the talent on his own roster?

[ninjacookies]

Sensabaugh is Can Thomas father.

[blackvodka]

Dallas had some momentum in the second half, but they just don't have the ability to finish games yet.

The Knicks won despite Towns being in foul trouble again and essentially doing nothing the entire second half. I think they regret trading Randle for him, especially since Randle has been healthy for the most part this past 1 1/2.

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[ninjacookies]

Nice to see Donovan finally IQMaxxing and giving Stix starter burn. They still suck, but at least somewhat competitive when their Okoro/PWill exposure is limited.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Glad the Celtics pulled that out. Would've been an embarrassing loss. Still embarrassing they got taken to Double OT.

No surprise they pooped the bed last night.

[blackvodka]

Ugly loss for Minnesota. I'm hoping their losing streak is just a minor setback.

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[coltsnsox07]

I didn't know Mavs-Bucks was postponed because the Mavs are snowed/iced in Texas. Bummer!

[spurs50fan]

Sometimes I swear these players are throwing games. Cause how…

[blackvodka]

Nice win for Toronto. If you're OKC just find a way to stay atop the WC and try and survive the injuries.

If you're the Spurs you gotta beat the Pelicans. I'm not so sure about Castle rn though.

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[ninjacookies]

Jordan Miller is Jaime Jaquez father.

I love me some sneaky 6th man goodness.

[Archangel1775]

Warriors with the W! I think Curry can play until he decides to retire in his late 40s

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Chryghst

Remember 9 months ago when everyone said Jokic deserved the MVP over SGA because he carried the Nuggets to a 4th seed while SGA had a super star supporting cast? Also whatever happened to that MPJ guy? Oh 25-7-3 on 48/39/85 splits….think that’s good, right?

That said, I definitely did not think Denver would be 8-4 without Jokic.

They're in the same Blowout Timeout bin that the folks who thought Tatum was carrying Boston by himself are.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Chryghst

Remember 9 months ago when everyone said Jokic deserved the MVP over SGA because he carried the Nuggets to a 4th seed while SGA had a super star supporting cast? Also whatever happened to that MPJ guy? Oh 25-7-3 on 48/39/85 splits….think that’s good, right?

That said, I definitely did not think Denver would be 8-4 without Jokic.

I think this is a totally unfair and non-genuine post. Porter is getting more volume this year, his shooting splits are pretty close year over year. He was also hurt a lot last year and his defense is still pretty mid at best. I wasn't wrapped up in MVP voting last year, I thought Shai deserved it but wouldn't have been outraged at all had Jokic won.

You also very conveniently are ignoring the difference in Jamal Murray year-to-year. He's having the best offensive season of his career this year and last season a lot of times looked like a guy on a horrendous contract who had already peaked.

I hope you are realistic enough to realize eventually the Nuggets without Jokic couldn't possibly win at the pace they have so far.

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by blackvodka

Nice win for Toronto. If you're OKC just find a way to stay atop the WC and try and survive the injuries.

If you're the Spurs you gotta beat the Pelicans. I'm not so sure about Castle rn though.

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I will say the Pelicans have the personnel to give anyone fits. Health has been the variable. The Spurs just have a weird obsession with the 3 and they are not a good team percentage-wise. They also are trying to fit round pegs into square holes and teams are more than accommodating. And you can’t miss 13 FTs…period.

I AM however very happy to see Carter Bryant getting the confidence and minutes. Although another issue emerged last game…they was down 20 when they finally decided to insert him (I know Devin was back) but he gave you great minutes on both ends to give them some life and we never saw him again????

[yiguiri2002]

I'm not a Malone apologist but I would like to know how many people predicted this type of season for Murray AND MPJ. I'll be shocked if it's anywhere close to 1%.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I think this is a totally unfair and non-genuine post. Porter is getting more volume this year, his shooting splits are pretty close year over year. He was also hurt a lot last year and his defense is still pretty mid at best. I wasn't wrapped up in MVP voting last year, I thought Shai deserved it but wouldn't have been outraged at all had Jokic won.

You also very conveniently are ignoring the difference in Jamal Murray year-to-year. He's having the best offensive season of his career this year and last season a lot of times looked like a guy on a horrendous contract who had already peaked.

I hope you are realistic enough to realize eventually the Nuggets without Jokic couldn't possibly win at the pace they have so far.

We need to dump on the Jokic homers when we have the chance lol

[tjforce]

Sorry to anyone watching Cavs/Magic on Peacock who now have to be subjected to Brad Daugherty as color man because the NBC crew didn't want to travel.

He means well, but he's not the best.

[mrmojorisin71]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Sorry to anyone watching Cavs/Magic on Peacock who now have to be subjected to Brad Daugherty as color man because the NBC crew didn't want to travel.

He means well, but he's not the best.

I had forgotten about him, what a stud in the 90s. Career was too short on the court, but probably too long on tv lol

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by mrmojorisin71

I had forgotten about him, what a stud in the 90s. Career was too short on the court, but probably too long on tv lol

He means well, but he glazes as bad as any color man out there.

Also... Orlando is in a bad way. Just got hammered by double digits in back to back games against the Cavs, with Cleveland missing Darius Garland, Sam Merrill, Max Strus, and Deandre Hunter.

[Chryghst]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I think this is a totally unfair and non-genuine post. Porter is getting more volume this year, his shooting splits are pretty close year over year. He was also hurt a lot last year and his defense is still pretty mid at best. I wasn't wrapped up in MVP voting last year, I thought Shai deserved it but wouldn't have been outraged at all had Jokic won.

You also very conveniently are ignoring the difference in Jamal Murray year-to-year. He's having the best offensive season of his career this year and last season a lot of times looked like a guy on a horrendous contract who had already peaked.

I hope you are realistic enough to realize eventually the Nuggets without Jokic couldn't possibly win at the pace they have so far.

It wasn’t a post about Jokic, and I wasn’t saying the Nuggets are better without Jokic than with. Not the case at all.

I know Nuggets fans who said Jokic was more valuable than SGA because SGA had a superstar supporting cast and Jokic had a G-league roster around him. The present-day talent on the OKC roster has been overvalued for two years now because of its high future potential. Chet was pretty bad last year after returning from his pelvic fracture, and Jdub was very inconsistent dealing with his wrist injury. SGA offensively carried that roster to the championship last year, with spot help from Jdub and Caruso. Obviously their defense was more consistent. People still view that OKC championship as a committee achievement; offensively, it really wasn’t.

Meanwhile the Denver narrative was ridiculous. Yes Jamal was hurt to start last year. Yes MPJ hurt his shoulder late in the season. And AG has this recurrent hamstring…but they had a ton of talent on that roster. This year shows they didn’t maximize it. It’s hard to increase volume while maintaining efficiency—showing that MPJ was capable of more than Denver asked him to do. Not Jokic’s fault necessarily, more coaching perhaps. Jamal has always had stretches of offensive brilliance, but before this year limited to post-all star break. Braun broke out last year. Watson is breaking out this year. Pickett and Spencer Jones have contributed.

I didn’t intend the post to be unfair or disingenuous. Just trying to point out that the Nuggets had and have very good players too, and it’s unfair to suggest that SGA has a ton of all stars supporting him while Jokic is playing with scrubs. SGA has a ton of defensive talent around him but offensively not much consistency to rely on.

[Chryghst]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I'm not a Malone apologist but I would like to know how many people predicted this type of season for Murray AND MPJ. I'll be shocked if it's anywhere close to 1%.

I’ll volunteer. I thought MPJ would really struggle in BK. Last year 74% of his 2s and 92% of his 3s were assisted. I didn’t think the Nets had the roster to facilitate that. Jodi Fernandez has used Claxton in a sort of Jokic-lite role, running the offense from FTLE. MPJ’s also creating his own shot more. Only 64% of 2s and 87% of 3s are assisted.

I’d sort of given up on Jamal as an elite consistent talent. He always came into the season unfit and used pre-all star to ramp up. He’s been awesome.

I thought Cam Johnson would be much bigger for them. So count me 0/3.

But when I said Malone apologist I really meant the young guys. Malone/Booth got fired because Malone refused to play the young guys Booth drafted and wanted him to add vets instead. The young guys have made a huge leap this year.

[jcardstore]

Risacher didn't make the rising stars game in year 2 after going #1 overall.

He's approaching worst 1st pick ever territory. At this point his best case scenario is that he becomes a moderately valuable role player.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by Chryghst

I’ll volunteer. I thought MPJ would really struggle in BK. Last year 74% of his 2s and 92% of his 3s were assisted. I didn’t think the Nets had the roster to facilitate that. Jodi Fernandez has used Claxton in a sort of Jokic-lite role, running the offense from FTLE. MPJ’s also creating his own shot more. Only 64% of 2s and 87% of 3s are assisted.

I’d sort of given up on Jamal as an elite consistent talent. He always came into the season unfit and used pre-all star to ramp up. He’s been awesome.

I thought Cam Johnson would be much bigger for them. So count me 0/3.

But when I said Malone apologist I really meant the young guys. Malone/Booth got fired because Malone refused to play the young guys Booth drafted and wanted him to add vets instead. The young guys have made a huge leap this year.

I'm with you, I completely missed on MPJ/Murray/Johnson this season. But like I said, I think that's easily 95%+ of people.

The funny thing about the Malone/Booth situation is that this is the year where they finally add good role players in the offseason...and the young guys take a leap.