Cooper Flagg

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Oriole Way

The current starting 5's and benches for Duke and Kentucky blow everyone else away.

One dude on the anti-Duke side of argument in this thread made the statement that Europe produces the most NBA talent. While that's true, he actually proved my point for me. It takes not just a European country, but an entire CONTINENT to rival the amount of current number NBA players and level of talent that Duke currently produces. Then hater trolls like hermano are resorting to ancient NBA/college history and Michael Jordan to make a case for UCLA and UNC.

UCLA is no longer the college talent pipeline that it once was even 10-20 years ago. Forget about the UCLA Wooden/Alcindor dynasty era that existed before the 3-point line and when conferences were only allowed to have one college team eligible per major conference for the NCAA tournament.

UNC is a joke of a college for producing NBA talent currently. Harrison Barnes and Coby White are their best active alumni.

Here is a list of the top college programs with the most alumni who have won NBA championships through the 2024 season. No Dookie won a ring in 2025:

1 UCLA 23
2 UNC 19
3 Kentucky 18
4 Kansas 16
5 Arizona 11
5 Ohio State 11
5 Oregon State 11
8 Florida 10
8 Louisville 10
8 Texas 10
8 Villanova 10
12 Indiana 9
12 Minnesota 9
14 Michigan 8
14 Michigan State 8
16 Cincinnati 7
16 Duke 7
16 Houston 7
16 Iowa 7
16 Marquette 7

We know Duke has great athletes with impeccable individual talent and toolboxes, they have arguably had the best recruiting classes since the 1980's, yet have only 7 rings to show for it in their school history.

What's wrong with these Dookies?

You figure it out.

I would have expected Duke players to have 20+ rings if they were so great. Fanz must have the Bron homer disease logic ..... so you can jump higher, run faster and shoot better than everyone else. Yet you can't win a ring. Hmmm, something is wrong there.....

[Oriole Way]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Here is a list of the top college programs with the most alumni who have won NBA championships through the 2024 season. No Dookie won a ring in 2025:

1 UCLA 23
2 UNC 19
3 Kentucky 18
4 Kansas 16
5 Arizona 11
5 Ohio State 11
5 Oregon State 11
8 Florida 10
8 Louisville 10
8 Texas 10
8 Villanova 10
12 Indiana 9
12 Minnesota 9
14 Michigan 8
14 Michigan State 8
16 Cincinnati 7
16 Duke 7
16 Houston 7
16 Iowa 7
16 Marquette 7

We know Duke has great athletes with impeccable individual talent and toolboxes, they have arguably had the best recruiting classes since the 1980's, yet have only 7 rings to show for it in their school history.

What's wrong with these Dookies?

You figure it out.

I would have expected Duke players to have 20+ rings if they were so great. Fanz must have the Bron homer disease logic ..... so you can jump higher, run faster and shoot better than everyone else. Yet you can't win a ring. Hmmm, something is wrong there.....

Duke will gradually climb the list of NBA rings over the next 10 years, especially since close to none of the traditional college blueblood basketball powers - including UCLA, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky - are currently producing elite NBA players at Duke's level. UCLA has been done as a basketball power for close to a decade, and Kentucky is now done now that John Calipari is long gone and that he's also currently irrelevant as a one-and-done future NBA player recruiter.

So your one-dimensional and outdated analysis for evaluating Duke's CURRENT prowess as an NBA talent producer is weak at best.

And it figures that you would also be a LeBron James hater troll. You're a joke.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Oriole Way

Duke will gradually climb the list of NBA rings over the next 10 years, especially since close to none of the traditional college blueblood basketball powers - including UCLA, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky - are currently producing elite NBA players at Duke's level. UCLA has been done as a basketball power for close to a decade, and Kentucky is now done now that John Calipari is long gone and that he's also currently irrelevant as a one-and-done future NBA player recruiter.

So your one-dimensional and outdated analysis for evaluating Duke's CURRENT prowess as an NBA talent producer is weak at best.

And it figures that you would also be a LeBron James hater troll. You're a joke.

We’ve heard all the dookie excuses before.

When do the Flagg polers believe he will add number 8 to the dookie total, if ever?

Who will be the next dookie to actually win a ring and not just leave a ring around the toilet bowl?

The Bron luver trait fits here. Funny that it cross pollinates with dookie fan bois.

[kyle1707]

I like how he is 19 and 49 points in a NBA game

[PFF100]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I like how he is 19 and 49 points in a NBA game

Of course no love for it on these threads since he’s from Duke


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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I like how he is 19 and 49 points in a NBA game

Originally Posted by PFF100

Of course no love for it on these threads since he’s from Duke


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But Knueppel and the Hornets still beat him.

[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by PFF100

Of course no love for it on these threads since he’s from Duke


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Heck of game by him and Kon tonight. Very entertaining!

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[sportzluvr1]

Unreal

[PFF100]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

But Knueppel and the Hornets still beat him.

A loss means better lottery odds to pair him with Harper next year and create an ultimate mini Duke team


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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by PFF100

A loss means better lottery odds to pair him with Harper next year and create an ultimate mini Duke team


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That sounds like dookie logic there.

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I like how he is 19 and 49 points in a NBA game

Great game to watch. Broke the Dallas record, and had a chance twice to seal it.

I picked up a pulsar of his to commemorate the game. I enjoy watching him grow/play


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[22emmittfan]

Most points ever by a teenager not too shabby

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by livfreely

Great game to watch. Broke the Dallas record, and had a chance twice to seal it.

I picked up a pulsar of his to commemorate the game. I enjoy watching him grow/play


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I sat next to his mom at a University of Maine game a couple weeks ago!!!!!!
She was there to see his brother Ace.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Most points ever by a teenager not too shabby

Imagine how good he's going to be in about 4 years.

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Imagine how good he's going to be in about 4 years.

Spurs were THIIIIS close to pulling off the heist of the decade

[Above the Rim]

Honestly, Kon has as much or more upside. Flagg needs to improve his 3 point shot - so important in today's NBA. Kon is already set, has great looking 3 ball. And Kon can most certainly get his goodly share of rebounds and assists. Both are top quality, good court smarts, intelligent.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

Honestly, Kon has as much or more upside. Flagg needs to improve his 3 point shot - so important in today's NBA. Kon is already set, has great looking 3 ball. And Kon can most certainly get his goodly share of rebounds and assists. Both are top quality, good court smarts, intelligent.

agree to disagree, but it will be fun to compare the two for hopefully the next ten plus years.

[imbluestreak23]

Man, white on white crime last night

[49ersSF]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

Honestly, Kon has as much or more upside. Flagg needs to improve his 3 point shot - so important in today's NBA. Kon is already set, has great looking 3 ball. And Kon can most certainly get his goodly share of rebounds and assists. Both are top quality, good court smarts, intelligent.

I like Kon, but Cooper's upside is up there with the legends of the game.

As far as 3-point shooting, it's absolutely no concern at this point. None. In KD's first season in the league, he was 19 and averaged 20.3 points a game. He shot 28.8% from the 3-point line. I fully expect Cooper to be in the high 30% ranger until he is 21 and then become a consistent 50/40/90 threat.

[ninjacookies]

Coop's always going to have the presumed higher upside because of his 2 way potential. He's bigger, stronger and can basically play/defend all 5 positions.

Anyone who thought he wasn't going to be Gentrified Tatum as a baseline heading into the draft was kidding themselves.

Now starting to believe Taytum's just Degentrified Flagg.

[PFF100]

Those Xfractors going crazy due to the released buyback for them.


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[boxbuster7]

[QUOTE=PFF100;20164616]Those Xfractors going crazy due to the released buyback for them.


link?

[PFF100]

[QUOTE=boxbuster7;20164622]

Originally Posted by PFF100

Those Xfractors going crazy due to the released buyback for them.


link?

https://x.com/Topps/status/2017704299342749946


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[PFF100]

Edit: not my original post I saw this on Reddit. Some are saying camera issue.

This seller has a pretty nicely centered Cooper Flagg refractor but upon inspection of the picture (RC logo says AC, and the back of the card is god awful), it looks AI generated. Is this going to become a problem with future advancements in AI and raw cards.

https://ebay.us/m/wibvgq






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[PFF100]

In regards to the xfractor buyback you might not get the same player back lol




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