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[6GOAT789]

Why are so many players/cards up big from a few years ago
While most of Brady’s are down?

https://x.com/CardsBoulevard

[Jeter1020]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Why are so many players/cards up big from a few years ago
While most of Brady’s are down?

https://x.com/CardsBoulevard

I think it’s just what happens when players retire. He’ll probably get a bump once he’s inducted into the hall of fame

He’s the goat but for some reason he gets lumped with other retired players


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[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Why are so many players/cards up big from a few years ago
While most of Brady’s are down?

https://x.com/CardsBoulevard

I heard on the SCN podcast this fall that the Brady rookie card "index" was up something like 32% year over year.

not sure if that number is still accurate? i do know that the high end rookie cards are up as well as ultra high end non rookie inserts/parallels.

I do not watch lower end rookies very closely at all, they may be stagnant.

[Brazenways]

Brady’s market has a ton of niche sub-segments but if you are strictly looking at the most liquid rookie card (2000 Bowman Chrome PSA9):

- January 2025 (Alt Value of $1,771)
- December 2025 (Alt value of $3,239)

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Brazenways

Brady’s market has a ton of niche sub-segments but if you are strictly looking at the most liquid rookie card (2000 Bowman Chrome PSA9):

- January 2025 (Alt Value of $1,771)
- December 2025 (Alt value of $3,239)

Why so close together? Go to 2021 and 2022

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Why so close together? Go to 2021 and 2022

Because he's showing you how much the card value raised in the span of just one year.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by pejc300

Because he's showing you how much the card value raised in the span of just one year.

No kidding, talk about expert insight!

The link I posted had cards from a few years ago to now, not one year

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

This almost matter of fact insistence that mahomes career is going to play out exactly like Brady’s is absolutely fascinating to me. If you think about it, mahomes injury at the same time of his career as Brady makes it less likely he’ll play out an act 2 and get 4 rings. You’d have better luck winning the powerball lottery than to bet Mahomes will have the exact same career accomplishments as Tom Brady.

Wild stuff.

[daveyc1]

Agreed. I made mention over in the Patty thread a couple of times that Brady winning SB's at advanced age is unicorn territory.

in 59 super bowls, only 2 players not named Brady have ever won a super bowl over the age of 37: Elway and Manning. And Manning was dragged to that win by an all time defense. they won that SB in spite of having Peyton as their QB.

realistically, Mahomes (and every other QB) needs to have their super bowls in hand by age 35 or 36. anything beyond that, there is just very very little historical precident. especially for a player whos game is predicated on hero ball and extending plays.

Patty fans are assuming he has a 7 year grace period before he needs to start winning 4 more SB's. It will not happen. they like to imagine that Brady set a new precedent for players winning at advanced age. he was not a precedent, he was a unicorn.

Mahomes will play next year, but he will not be the same after reconstruction surgery. losing just a half step in quickness can often be the difference between a DE getting home for the sack or not.

[daveyc1]

I see a 2000 BC refractor in BGS 9 sold Dec. 9 for $69,999.00

If that one was paid for that is a very strong sale!!

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Agreed. I made mention over in the Patty thread a couple of times that Brady winning SB's at advanced age is unicorn territory.

in 59 super bowls, only 2 players not named Brady have ever won a super bowl over the age of 37: Elway and Manning. And Manning was dragged to that win by an all time defense. they won that SB in spite of having Peyton as their QB.

realistically, Mahomes (and every other QB) needs to have their super bowls in hand by age 35 or 36. anything beyond that, there is just very very little historical precident. especially for a player whos game is predicated on hero ball and extending plays.

Patty fans are assuming he has a 7 year grace period before he needs to start winning 4 more SB's. It will not happen. they like to imagine that Brady set a new precedent for players winning at advanced age. he was not a precedent, he was a unicorn.

Mahomes will play next year, but he will not be the same after reconstruction surgery. losing just a half step in quickness can often be the difference between a DE getting home for the sack or not.

He’s going to need a running game like Elway. Fortunately for him Jeremiah love will be available in next year’s draft. Chiefs are pegged to land a defensive player in the draft but I can definitely see them pivoting and drafting love and leaving spagnuolo to hold the fort on the defensive side. Still, the chargers and broncos aren’t going anywhere. If they don’t get love, Mahomes is going to have to change his game to be more of a pocket passer and I just don’t see it.

[daveyc1]

agreed. I do not see Mahomes becoming a pocket passer in his 30's. I listen to a lot of FB podcasts, including KC Chiefs ones. many of them have mentioned that Patrick in the last few seasons, even more than before, has been bailing on plays really early.

Happy feet for a QB is never a good thing. usually guys are older than Patrick is when that starts happening. If he is too nervous of the pocket at age 30, I do not see that getting better as he ages and needs to learn to stay home and not bail.

no one can convince me that Mahomes will be a successful QB in his late 30's, forget about his 40s. his whole game depends on his athleticism and escapeability

[Jeter1020]

I honestly do think Mahomes still has a shot to beat Brady as the goat. But that should not be in the conversation until he passes Joe. He needs two more rings to do that. But realistically he has like 10-12 years left of football.


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[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

This almost matter of fact insistence that mahomes career is going to play out exactly like Brady’s is absolutely fascinating to me. If you think about it, mahomes injury at the same time of his career as Brady makes it less likely he’ll play out an act 2 and get 4 rings. You’d have better luck winning the powerball lottery than to bet Mahomes will have the exact same career accomplishments as Tom Brady.

Wild stuff.

Am I the only one who thinks it’s silly to even compare? Mahomes is Mahomes and Brady is Brady. Whatever happens is just a coincidence, people will always look for that I guess

Brady’s injury (acl) was the first game of the year, while the chiefs were essentially eliminated from the playoffs. One huge difference that people try and tie together

[blackbears86]

[QUOTE=Jeter1020;20113175]I honestly do think Mahomes still has a shot to beat Brady as the goat. But that should not be in the conversation until he passes Joe. He needs two more rings to do that. But realistically he has like 10-12 years left of football.


I'm struggling to see it.


I think we can all agree next year for the Chiefs is pretty much a wash. Patty might or might not make it back by week one. ( I'm guessing no, he won't), the Broncos and Chargers will still be there and will likely be as good as this year. (the Raiders will still suck) Plus, Kelce will be gone.

So no chance at a SB next year.


after that, depending on the cap situation, it may take another 2+ years for a rebuild. Lot's of questions.

[6GOAT789]

This is actually insane/annoying lol. How every year there’s going to be a constant goat debate. They’re out of the playoffs so the dynasty is over, how can it be over with Mahomes for so many years left?

Guess the goat debate will be back next season when they’re back in the playoffs.

People haven’t really mentioned how they’ll now play three third place teams instead of the usual three first place teams

[Jeter1020]

I’ve been watching a lot of card vault stuff and watched the 2000 contenders box break tonight with Tom. He’s so so likable. A friend of mine ran into Tom randomly at one of his card vault location openings and said he was so kind and he took a picture with him.

Tom has the charisma MJ had. That’s what will always set him apart too. The accolades yes but man he just has this aura about him


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[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Am I the only one who thinks it’s silly to even compare? Mahomes is Mahomes and Brady is Brady. Whatever happens is just a coincidence, people will always look for that I guess

Brady’s injury (acl) was the first game of the year, while the chiefs were essentially eliminated from the playoffs. One huge difference that people try and tie together

Brady destroyed teams by reading defenses and executing within the structure of the play over and over and over again.

Mahomes runs around waiting for the play to break down.

One defeats the system, the other waits for it to break down then defeats it. The former will always be the goat.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

I’ve been watching a lot of card vault stuff and watched the 2000 contenders box break tonight with Tom. He’s so so likable. A friend of mine ran into Tom randomly at one of his card vault location openings and said he was so kind and he took a picture with him.

Tom has the charisma MJ had. That’s what will always set him apart too. The accolades yes but man he just has this aura about him


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Tom was the last generation that grew up without the internet. The athletes we grew up watching had fire and passion and were great trash talkers.The music of the time had passion and soul. We were a product of our environment. Now it’s all about the beats and social media. More bland athletes. You’ll never see athletes like Brady again. With AI it may even get worse and athletes become even more bland and robotic.

Notice when young people trash talk these days they repeat the same thing over and over? Terrible trash talkers compared to the old school athletes.

[6GOAT789]

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He’ll be back for the opener

Isn’t 30 still really young? So many I know act like their body is already breaking down and they’re in their mid 30’s. As long as you take care of yourself it shouldn’t really be that big of a drop between your 30’s and 20’s?

Plus he’s a qb and not a running back. If he needs to adjust and not run so much, he will

[6GOAT789]

When it comes to the best passer of all time, it’s Rodgers and not even that close. He just doesn’t have the rings

Prime Rodgers was unreal

[Jeter1020]

Would you say 28-3 was Brady’s “MJ flu game”?


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[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Would you say 28-3 was Brady’s “MJ flu game”?


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That was the game Matt Ryan solidified his spot in the HOF, game was definitely legendary..

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...mes_underwent/

He’ll be back for the opener

Isn’t 30 still really young? So many I know act like their body is already breaking down and they’re in their mid 30’s. As long as you take care of yourself it shouldn’t really be that big of a drop between your 30’s and 20’s?

Plus he’s a qb and not a running back. If he needs to adjust and not run so much, he will

He made his money being hyper mobile. He’s one of the few QBs who did not derive their throwing power from the legs. For him it was the torque he generated through his upper body. In the 30’s this fluidity in the upper body stiffens up. He needs to change his mechanics big time and that’ll be easier said than done.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Would you say 28-3 was Brady’s “MJ flu game”?


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No that was the 2004 afc championship game against the Steelers.